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Offline franksolich

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primitives remember the Good Old Days
« on: November 25, 2008, 04:38:07 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4534428

Oh my.

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KansDem  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-25-08 04:30 PM
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Remember this Time cover from the 1994 "GOP Stampede?"

And a "Special Report" no less--

after which an image of that great cover from Time magazine

I don't recall a "Democratic Stampede" cover from Time this time around. Instead we get this never-ceasing media-enabled "soul searching" about how the GOP will rise again. Instead we get a never-ceasing media-enabled "accolade to the rising GOP stars."

If ever there was a "stampede," it was the one that is taking place now. And it's not the GOPers doing the stampeding..

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Richardo  (1000+ posts)        Tue Nov-25-08 04:33 PM
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1. 1994 *was* a stampede.

Changed decades of Dem House majority. That's big, when you consider that incumbents are usually re-elected 95+ percent of the time.

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KansDem  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-25-08 04:37 PM
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4. I see your point. When you consider the Dems were the majority for decades...

The GOPers pale by comparison with their 14-year "rule." But now they've lost both houses of Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court. I call that a "stampede."

We "lost" the Supreme Court?

Aren't the four most liberal justices pretty ancient, more ancient than the others?

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Rambis  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-25-08 04:33 PM
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2. Contract On America? What happened?

REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA

As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its after which the whole contract is described

Well, yeah, Rambo; we on this side are wondering too.

But not to worry; we on this side will get it straight next time around.

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gratuitous  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-25-08 04:52 PM
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5. I remember the cover

I also remember a columnist (Alexander Cockburn?) for the Nation, who had an article titled "What Landslide?" In it, he detailed just how depressed voter turnout had been in 1994, and how the "landslide" represented the voice of about 23% or 25% of all eligible voters. It went into how the GOP had been very careful to engage their own base with nonsense like the Contract on America, while simultaneously convincing most of the rest of the electorate not to bother with voting. It was pretty masterful politicking, but in terms of reflecting a sea change in the opinions of most Americans, ehhhh, not so much.

For the next several election cycles, though, the GOP continued with their plots to disenfranchise places and groups that were presumed to be majority Democratic, while making sure their own voters turned out. The benefits of incumbency were brought to bear fully on each election, and Republicans maintained their tenuous grip. With the aid of the popular media, however, they always looked and sounded more in control than they actually were. As proof, I point to the fact that next Congress' numbers are more heavily in favor of the Democrats than they ever were for the Republicans between 1994 and 2008.

But no, you won't be seeing any Time magazine covers of a donkey kicking the living piss out of an elephant. Which should tell you something.

The tipping primitive forgets that the Big Zero's been on the cover of Time magazine 17 times this year, which thus far is 17 out of 46 weekly issues.

What's up with that?

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Lasher  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-25-08 05:11 PM
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6. Very good summary.

And now here we are. There's not been much about a landslide or mandate for Obama and Congressional Democrats because the media would rather obsess about how Republican Obama needs to be in order to succeed in this center-Republican nation we somehow are, despite election results to the contrary.

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depakid  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-25-08 05:25 PM
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7. "how depressed voter turnout had been in 1994"

Hopefully, Obama has learned the lesson from 1994- namely, that if you enable, legitimize and sign off on far right policies- and turn your back on progressives, then your "boots on the ground" will stay home.

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Re: primitives remember the Good Old Days
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 04:42:36 PM »
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Re: primitives remember the Good Old Days
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 04:59:58 PM »
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...the "landslide" represented the voice of about 23% or 25% of all eligible voters...

That's pretty much what Obama got, so I don't know why the DUmmies are claiming the "landslide" of the big Zero.
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Re: primitives remember the Good Old Days
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 05:18:45 PM »
The 94 election was a landmark one not just for the fact that it turned Congress (both houses) for the first time in roughly 40 years but because it wasn`t forseen and it came just 2 years after the dems had declared the public had decided that Reaganism was a mistake.

See a pattern developing?
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Re: primitives remember the Good Old Days
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 05:33:23 PM »
Quote from: Carl on November 25, 2008, 05:18:45 PM
The 94 election was a landmark one not just for the fact that it turned Congress (both houses) for the first time in roughly 40 years but because it wasn`t forseen and it came just 2 years after the dems had declared the public had decided that Reaganism was a mistake.

See a pattern developing?

Could be a blessing in disguise for the Republicans. I f they don't find a way to screw it up. I venture to say after two full yrs of unfettered & unstopable Democrat control of govt the populous will be screaming for conservatism. Not Moderatism but conservatism.

It is strange that the Accomplishments Clinton Claims as his and brags about and liberals now fawning about for in the good ole days were parts of the Contract with America that were enacted into law.
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Re: primitives remember the Good Old Days
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2008, 05:39:34 PM »
Dummies are Stupid

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stampede
 
–noun 1. a sudden, frenzied rush or headlong flight of a herd of frightened animals, esp. cattle or horses.
 
2. any headlong general flight or rush.


I don't think the Time cover was giving kudos to Republicans.
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