primitive burns chocolate chip cookies

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=236x50375

Hmmm.

Probably uses a gas oven.

dwickham  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-21-08 10:30 PM
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need help in making chocolate chip cookies

Okay-I'm using the Nestle toll house recipe but the edges keep burning!

I've experimented with different temperatures but they keep burning

I'm thinking about cutting the butter back to a roughly 6 ounces and cutting the sugar as well

any ideas/suggestions?

Gwendolyn  (470 posts)      Fri Nov-21-08 11:01 PM
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1. If you haven't already, you could also try:
 
Lining your cookie sheets with parchment paper. (I use silicone sheets and they always come out perfectly.) Or double stack your cookie sheets. And maybe take them out a little earlier, since they'll still cook a bit as they cool. Good luck with your next batch!

dwickham  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-21-08 11:41 PM
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2. good idea about the parchment paper

I have a silicone sheet someplace

I did take them out a bit early today when I baked them

I used a baking dish instead of a cookie sheet because I thought the sheet was getting too hot and the dish would stay a bit cooler

they turned out okay but they stuck to the dish and made it hard to get them out because it wasn't non-stick and I didn't think to use anything to grease the dish

no_hypocrisy  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-21-08 11:54 PM
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3. I like to refrigerate the cookie dough for 1-2 hours. Then I take 1+ tsp of it, roll it into a ball, and place it on the cookie sheet.

The result is a cookie that is pretty much uniform and the edges are evenly baked.

sandnsea  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-22-08 12:40 AM
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4. this, and turn the oven down if necessary and what is your elevation because it does make a difference.

Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-22-08 01:16 PM
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8. I use a mini ice cream scoop for drop cookies of all types. The edges aren't as tidy but I can bang out four dozen of them in absolutely no time at all.

Oh damn.  The warped primitive, usually full of excellent advice, let me down.

An ice-cream scoop's just another superfluous utensil to clutter the silverware drawer.

I'll bet the commonsensical Grandma with the diverted intestine would agree with franksolich that a mundane ordinary run-of-the-mill average everyday tablespoon would work just as well.

Shakespeare  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-22-08 01:18 PM
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9. I do, too--it's a great tool.

Nice uniform size, too.

ekelly  (256 posts)        Sat Nov-22-08 01:20 AM
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5. The secret to plump, non-burned cookies is to refrigerate the dough between batches and let the pan cool after each batch.

I can't remember the exact reason, but it has something to do with the butter, shortening or whatever you use breaking down too fast if the dough and pan are warm or hot...resulting in a flat, burned cookie.

I use a regular old cookie sheet, refrigerate the dough and let the pan cool between each batch that goes in the oven.

My chocolate chip cookies (made from the recipe on the Nestle bag) always turned out flat and burned before I stumbled onto the tips above. Now they come out perfect every time.

Edit to add: Store the cookies in a container with a good-fitting lid. Place a piece of bread in the bottom of the container, covered with wax paper, and the cookies will stay soft.

Uh-oh.  A primitive causing mischief.

Didn't the primitives just have this discussion, voting "nay" on AirBake cookie sheets?

eridani  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-22-08 09:49 AM
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6. Use AirBake cookie sheets

I always had bottom and edge burning until I switched per advice here.

But the advice by the primitives on Skins's island that that AirBake's no good.

Shakespeare  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-22-08 12:58 PM
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7. Second the parchment & chilled dough, but use this recipe:

It's Alton Brown's recipe for chewy chocolate chip cookies, and it's the best recipe I've ever tried for chocolate chip cookies. No contest. I think it's one of the highest-reviewed recipes on the Food Network, too (check them out at the link). The technique (of using melted butter) is the key to making these great--it changes the chemical interaction of the fat and sugar, and you won't get browned or burned edges.

Ingredients

* 2 sticks unsalted butter
* 2 1/4 cups bread flour
* 1 teaspoon kosher salt
* 1 teaspoon baking soda
* 1/4 cup sugar
* 1 1/4 cups brown sugar
* 1 egg
* 1 egg yolk
* 2 tablespoons milk
* 1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract
* 2 cups semisweet chocolate chips

Hardware:

* Ice cream scooper (#20 disher, to be exact)--OPTIONAL
* Parchment paper
* Baking sheets
* Mixer

Directions

Heat oven to 375 degrees F.

Melt the butter in a heavy-bottom medium saucepan over low heat. Sift together the flour, salt, and baking soda and set aside.

Pour the melted butter in the mixer's work bowl. Add the sugar and brown sugar. Cream the butter and sugars on medium speed. Add the egg, yolk, 2 tablespoons milk and vanilla extract and mix until well combined. Slowly incorporate the flour mixture until thoroughly combined. Stir in the chocolate chips.

Chill the dough, then scoop onto parchment-lined baking sheets, 6 cookies per sheet. Bake for 14 minutes or until golden brown, checking the cookies after 5 minutes. Rotate the baking sheet for even browning. Cool completely and store in an airtight container.

I dunno.  Probably easier and cheaper just to buy a bag of chocolate chip cookies at the grocery store.

TreasonousBastard  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-22-08 05:19 PM
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10. How's your oven temp? Most ovens suck and a...thermometer is an absolute necessity. Sheet placement is important, too, since temps are uneven.

(And I believe in AirBake and parchment-- never had a problem even with lousy ovens.)

[whiffleball]

Maybe it' a fluke, but I've never had such problems with baking cc cookies.  Primitive is an apt name as they seem to screw up the most simple acts.

BTW, frank, I've been meaning to ask if you think the cali primitive may be an alter ego of Skins himself or at least a relation.  Many other DUmmies would have been TSd long ago for having a posting history such as hers.

[franksolich]

Maybe it' a fluke, but I've never had such problems with baking cc cookies.  Primitive is an apt name as they seem to screw up the most simple acts.

BTW, frank, I've been meaning to ask if you think the cali primitive may be an alter ego of Skins himself or at least a relation.  Many other DUmmies would have been TSd long ago for having a posting history such as hers.

I dunno.  I'm still confused.

What the primitives refuse to see is that there's circa 6 billion people in the world.

And circa 5 billion of them wouldn't complain about burnt chocolate chip cookies.

Primitives are superior to decent and civilized people, remember; they're always "concerned" for those who have less, unlike we evil decent and civilized people.

The warped primitive with her ice-cream scoop (rather than using a versatile tablespoon); I'll bet that of the circa 6 billion people in the world, 5 billion of them don't possess minimally-appropriate utensils, even such as a tablespoon, much less an ice-cream scoop.

Primitives are "superior" to decent and civilized people, remember; they're always "concerned" for those who have less, unlike we evil decent and civilized people.

When visiting the "cooking and baking" forum on Skins's island, I'm appalled at the decadent, hedonistic gluttony of the primitives--this "I'm okay, Jack, I've got mine" attitude.

Which is contrary to what the primitives jibber-jabber about their "concern," their "social consciousness."

I'm starting to get this idea that the primitives are hypocrites.

This criticism is NOT directed at any decent and civilized people who like fine foods; decent and civilized people don't wear their "virtue" on a sleeve.

As for the Obamaite cali primitive, she's been called on the carpet before by my fellow alum Skins, and if I remember correctly, one time she was even given a "time out."

[MrsSmith]

I've never burnt the edges of cookies either.  I bake on Air Bake sheets, Air Bake sheet-cake sheets, doubled "regular" cookie sheets, a cookie sheet on a piece of aluminum foil, and sometimes, on my griddle.  I've made cookie dough with margarine, butter, and Crisco.  Some things change, but nothing makes the edges burn. 

[Zeus]

Nothing wrong with burnt cookies that a butter knife and a glass of mile or cup of coffee can't fix.

[BEG]

Mmmm cookies, I think I'm going to make some this afternoon.

[Wineslob]

Papa Murphys cookie dough sounds good!


BTW DUmmies, my 11 yo can bake cookies without burning them.    but then again, I bought a good oven.