subway cat anger on the keyboard

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4472072

Oh my.

misanthrope (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-15-08 11:54 PM
Original message
 
The illusion dies...

...just got this via e-mail:

Election spurs 'hundreds' of race threats, crimes

Cross burnings. Schoolchildren chanting "Assassinate Obama." Black figures hung from nooses. Racial epithets scrawled on homes and cars.

Incidents around the country referring to President-elect Barack Obama are dampening the postele blahblahblahblah.....

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Sun Nov-16-08 01:40 AM
Response to Reply #7
 
13. I hope when they become resigned They just kill themselves. I am sick to death of anything right wing.I am tired of their same old shit,and it IS always that same old shit,shit we need to pressure to change or die..I am sick of conservatives and their stupid orders and classes beliefs,the fundies,the racists,sexists,homophobe,bullies, compulsive greed heads, the ASSHOLES.

One suspects the subway cat's going to have to get resigned to getting a job.

Remember, Shelly Obama said a couple of months ago than in an Obamareich, "people are going to have to work."

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Mon Nov-17-08 03:34 AM
Response to Reply #18
 
23. for me it is more frustration and when I get frustrated it sounds like anger on a keyboard.

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Sun Nov-16-08 01:28 AM
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11. conservatism is a social disease manifested in people with a sociopath,authoritarian or narcissistic personality type.They do not want to be fair,open-minded, just, share or change.They want the old days they romanticize where THEY had control and could hurt whomever they wanted to and NO ONE stood against them.

They hate Obama because they realise the 'old days' will be dead,like the 'conservative' culture..Racists and other conservative beliefs like"family values" are based in the belief in social orders and classes.Randing from the divine rights of kings that they obey blindly down the social hierarchy to the deviants or minorities they kick.Racists and those like them are just a bunch of weak,insecure,abusive,bullies.

I say bullies because of their fear of LOSING(everything is a zero sum equation) and habitual abusiveness are terrified of losing any power over people they want to label inferior..Because they so fear the repercussions from their actions they NEVER want to be held responsible for what they are and how they HARM others.They want to be abusive racist shits and get away with it.

And that is why these racist shitheads are crawling out of the woodwork.It is the death throes of the right wing,and like a hookworm infestation it is harmful or potentially deadly until it is cut off and the bigot's passive/apathetic kind of influence is removed from the host(society) keeping it alive(enablers,the people that think that racism is over etc).

Yep, a new day's dawning for the subway cat, who'll have to get a job sometime after January 20, 2009.

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Sun Nov-16-08 04:18 AM
Response to Reply #14

16. "nice"??

Many of my friends and family members are conservatives. They certainly have their faults just like most liberals I know. But, by and large, they are decent people who have a narrowly prescribed set of beliefs based on their life experience.

Ok Do any of these "nice" conservatives believe:

That women should be FORCED to give birth?

What part of a narrow life experince does that fit into? Because rape and domestic abuse happens everywhere.

That gays should not be allowed to marry each other?

I guess they never met a gay person up close,or the gay person didn't want to hear any crap so they didn't let on they were gay around them perhaps?

That poor people should pull themselves up and quit asking for help from the government??

Poor bashing is a pastime of "fiscal*snort* conservatives" that are running the country into a debt hole we will leave for future generations to fix.

Do they believe a CEO deserves multi million dollar golden parachutes because they"earned" it?

Horatio? Algier,Horaaatioooo?

Do they believe America is founded on christianity?  (nuff said)

Do they"disapline" their own children with a belt? (because the bible says to)

Do they believe in the myth of "authority"?

Do they question conservatism,family values or other such right wing toxic spew?

Do the women"nice" conservatives defer to their husbands? Tolerate being interrupted,do alot more housework and other 'traditionally womanly"tasks? etc.

Do they understand what conservatism IS??

Do you know what it IS?

Find out.

What do conservatives conserve?

So good these"nice" people are..NOT.

Knowing what I know about what conservatism is and what is stands for,I must conclude either they are not all that nice or they are ****ing stupid and do not know WHY their own belief system is about and believe it anyway,even if it is ethically bankrupt and wrong,because they will not think or step out of the lemmings and back away from the cliff.There is no rational or humane reason to be a conservative in this world.

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Mon Nov-17-08 03:33 AM
Response to Reply #21
 
22. Alot of stupid

Sick of the fat bashing.

Americans are fat I think because many are on medications and guess what the most common side effect is? Weight gain.I think people in America are less happy and have less ability to deal with others in a fulfilling intimate friendship way.Also we have been conditioned to be like this somewhat. Some can fight it better than others.Being fat sometimes has nothing to do with gluttony.So quit the fat bashing. It's the same shit the racists do.

I'm not quite sure how to describe it, but there's something spotty and random in the subway cat's comments at this bonfire.  One of her medications is either absent, or backfiring, or too strong.

[Rebel]

undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Sun Nov-16-08 01:28 AM
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11. conservatism is a social disease manifested in people with a sociopath,authoritarian or narcissistic personality type.They do not want to be fair,open-minded, just, share or change.They want the old days they romanticize where THEY had control and could hurt whomever they wanted to and NO ONE stood against them.

No, ya dumb bitch, or whatever the hell you are. Once again you get it wrong and project the HELL out of the platform of liberalism. Conservatives are generally very individualistic. We don't have to run in "packs". We are out to make a living for ourselves and our families. YOU f'n idiots want that destroyed. YOU f'n idiots want to FORCE shit onto us like homosexuality, etc., when we don't F'N CARE! Just STFU about it already, you fruit.

Conservatism is about individualism. It's about freedom. It's about taking care of ourselves.

Liberalism is the exact opposite. ....and it's a ****ing mental disorder.

[Airwolf]

Dear GOD. Please put it out of our misery.

[franksolich]

Dear GOD. Please put it out of our misery.

Actually, this is the one (but probably only) aspect of the coming Obamareich to which I'm looking forward.

It won't affect us, because we all work anyway.

But as Shelley Obama declared a couple of months ago, everybody's going to have to work in an Obamareich.

I can hardly wait until that hits home with the subway cat.  It apparently hasn't yet, but I'm sure it will.

[USA4ME]

undergroundpanther

Do the women "nice" conservatives defer to their husbands? Tolerate being interrupted, do alot more housework and other 'traditionally womanly" tasks? etc.

Let's say that was the case.  Would you be intollerant of a woman who decided this is how she wanted to live her life?  I'm betting the answer is YES.

Further evidence the myth of how liberals want women to be free to do as they wish is really about women doing as they wish as long as it falls within what they consider to be acceptable.

Sarah Palin is a wife, mother, governor who saw change needed to take place and instead of complaining about it got up and did something, etc...  Had she been a kook lib, they would have loved her.

.

[jtyangel]

11. conservatism is a social disease manifested in people with a sociopath,authoritarian or narcissistic personality type.They do not want to be fair,open-minded, just, share or change.They want the old days they romanticize where THEY had control and could hurt whomever they wanted to and NO ONE stood against them.

Oh boy...this coming from a WOMAN who 'disowns' any therapist who says something she doesn't want to hear and lops her boobs off in favor of becoming a male cat. Sorry, UGP, you aren't qualified to judge the sanity of another person given your own GLARING flaws in that vein.

They hate Obama because they realise the 'old days' will be dead,like the 'conservative' culture..Racists and other conservative beliefs like"family values" are based in the belief in social orders and classes.Randing from the divine rights of kings that they obey blindly down the social hierarchy to the deviants or minorities they kick

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Afraid not. I don't like Obama's politics. Had he been a VERIFIED American citizen and been conservative, I would have welcomed his election. It has nothing to do with his skin tone. And I must remind liberals, Obama is half-caucasion still and was raised by that side of his family. He CHOSE to align himself with radical, militant, and yes RACIST African Americans. You love the word choice--that was Obama's choice. That is why I don't trust or like the man, because he apparently while pining for his daddy who was, from what I can tell, essentially absent in most of his raising, aligned himself with the world view that his disconnection from his father and aftican roots was somehow a caucasian problem. It was not. It was a personal problem that both his mother AND father wrought on him. Militant AA's have chosen to take advantage of men and women like him desperate to know the half of their family that abandoned them. This instability in him actually worries me more then anything.

Racists and those like them are just a bunch of weak,insecure,abusive,bullies.

Wow, some would say a woman who sticks with her gay/bi/gay boyfriend when she knows he's taking advantage of her to be weak and insecure, but what do I know.

I say bullies because of their fear of LOSING(everything is a zero sum equation) and habitual abusiveness are terrified of losing any power over people they want to label inferior..Because they so fear the repercussions from their actions they NEVER want to be held responsible for what they are and how they HARM others.They want to be abusive racist shits and get away with it

Actually, UGP, the bolded part sounds like your ex you were moaning about the other day.

And that is why these racist shitheads are crawling out of the woodwork.It is the death throes of the right wing,and like a hookworm infestation it is harmful or potentially deadly until it is cut off and the bigot's passive/apathetic kind of influence is removed from the host(society) keeping it alive(enablers,the people that think that racism is over etc).

UGP, in one simple sentence, you have shown who it is that should be worried about their liberties and very lives being in danger should someone like yourself ever have a significant say so. You, and many like you, reveal once again who the true fascists are. You demonize people by labeling them with monikers that incite fear, even when they are not warranted: the ultimate effort is to silence. If you want to see the true threat to freedom, take a look in the mirror--it is the extremists on the right and the left who fear any challenge and who fear values like liberty and free political speech. Instead of throwing out labels, I challenge you to debate arguments on their merits and refrain from lopping in anyone who is conservative with your idiotic notion of what that means--we may share similarities in what we believe, but we certainly aren't all *fill in the blank* anymore then the left is. I know, it's a stretch, but just a thought considering you are so wary of stereotypes and bigotry and social constructs of what a, b, and c is or should be...

[franksolich]

I challenge you to debate.....

Now, that would be funny.

[jtyangel]

Now, that would be funny.

I have no illusions that it would ever happen, sir, but yes, it would be very funny. Most of her positions are indefensible so anger is needed to continually fuel the UGP fire.

[franksolich]

.....anger is needed to continually fuel the UGP fire.

You know, given the state of the subway cat, I've always been sort of leery, sort of kid-glovish, about posting her bonfires here.  She's obviously got a, uh, problem, and at times I fear she's about to do something most people wouldn't do.

However, it's all my fellow alum Skins's fault.

The subway cat is obviously disturbed, and posting on the internet only inflames her disturbances.

There's a mental hospital, and a variety of half-way houses in the big city near here.

At various times, I've inquired about the internet usage of the "clients."

And always, I've been told that no, inhabitants of the mental hospital are NOT allowed internet access, period, as it's been psychiatrically determined such a thing aggravates their condition.

No internet, period, for them.

As for residents of half-way houses, the rules are relaxed, but only slightly.

Probably 99% of them are denied internet access, period.

The favored 1% are allowed internet access, a half hour per day, usually, with a "chaperone" sitting right beside them as they're at the computer.  (i.e., they don't get to look up internet porn or Skins's island.)

I don't think the internet is a good outlet for the subway cat's anger, and I rather suspect her psychiatrists, psychologists, and mental-health counselors don't think so too.

If I were my fellow alum Skins, I'd mausoleum any primitive who displays strong clues of severe mental problems, for their own good, and for the Greater Good of Mankind in general.

I've never been sure why my fellow alum's never done that; after all, being a Democrat and a liberal, he's supposed to be concerned.

[Miss Mia]

He/she/cat is one sick person. 

[BEG]

undergroundpanther

Do the women "nice" conservatives defer to their husbands? Tolerate being interrupted, do alot more housework and other 'traditionally womanly" tasks? etc.
Let's say that was the case.  Would you be intollerant of a woman who decided this is how she wanted to live her life?  I'm betting the answer is YES.

Further evidence the myth of how liberals want women to be free to do as they wish is really about women doing as they wish as long as it falls within what they consider to be acceptable.

Sarah Palin is a wife, mother, governor who saw change needed to take place and instead of complaining about it got up and did something, etc...  Had she been a kook lib, they would have loved her.

.

UGP is so ****ed up.  She wouldn't know what to do with herself if she had my life.  She would have nothing to complain about (well.....she would be able to use my medical problems and probably relish in her victim status because of it but I digress....).  My Mom took me to the doctor today, when we drove up to my house I noticed that the garbage cans were out on the curb and it reminded me of something that bothered me.  I said to my Mom that I had to bitch about something my husband does (or I should say doesn't do) because I don't have anything else to bitch about.  I said that every time he takes the trash cans out for trash day he doesn't get the stuff in the bathroom trash cans or the other small trash cans around the house.  Also the stuff I leave in the freezer like onion peels, etc that I don't want stinking up the trash all week he "forgets" to get that stuff too.  My Mom said how lucky I was that that is all I have to bitch about.

I consider myself a "nice" conservative (unless you put down my kids or husband, then the fangs come out).  I don't "defer" to my husband, he doesn't interrupt me, he does the dishes every night, if I don't feel like cleaning the house he says NOTHING, if I don't feel like cooking he picks up something for us on the way home, he makes the bed when I ask him to (sometimes with out me asking   ).  I do most of the "traditionally womanly" tasks because I don't work outside the home.  When I did work we split more of the household duties.  

UPG knows nothing about a successful marriage and never will.  After all, I don't think cats can marry.  Even if they could she/he/it would fail miserably, just like every other aspect in her/his/it's life.  I can say with confidence that we have a successful marriage and I credit my husband for the majority of the success.  Not because I am some "weak little conservative" woman but because he is such a good person.   As of January 3rd of 2009 it will be 22 years and I would do it all over again in a heartbeat.  Kiss my ass UGP.

[Miss Mia]

Further evidence the myth of how liberals want women to be free to do as they wish is really about women doing as they wish as long as it falls within what they consider to be acceptable.

Sarah Palin is a wife, mother, governor who saw change needed to take place and instead of complaining about it got up and did something, etc...  Had she been a kook lib, they would have loved her.

.


UGP is so ****ed up.  She wouldn't know what to do with herself if she had my life.  She would have nothing to complain about (well.....she would be able to use my medical problems and probably relish in her victim status because of it but I digress....).  My Mom took me to the doctor today, when we drove up to my house I noticed that the garbage cans were out on the curb and it reminded me of something that bothered me.  I said to my Mom that I had to bitch about something my husband does (or I should say doesn't do) because I don't have anything else to bitch about.  I said that every time he takes the trash cans out for trash day he doesn't get the stuff in the bathroom trash cans or the other small trash cans around the house.  Also the stuff I leave in the freezer like onion peels, etc that I don't want stinking up the trash all week he "forgets" to get that stuff too.  My Mom said how lucky I was that that is all I have to bitch about.

I consider myself a "nice" conservative (unless you put down my kids or husband, then the fangs come out).  I don't "defer" to my husband, he doesn't interrupt me, he does the dishes every night, if I don't feel like cleaning the house he says NOTHING, if I don't feel like cooking he picks up something for us on the way home, he makes the bed when I ask him to (sometimes with out me asking  ).  I do most of the "traditionally womanly" tasks because I don't work outside the home.  When I did work we split more of the household duties. 

UPG knows nothing about a successful marriage and never will.  After all, I don't think cats can marry.  Even if they could she/he/it would fail miserably, just like every other aspect in her/his/it's life.  I can say with confidence that we have a successful marriage and I credit my husband for the majority of the success.  Not because I am some "weak little conservative" woman but because he is such a good person.   As of January 3rd of 2009 it will be 22 years and I would do it all over again in a heartbeat.  Kiss my ass UGP.

    

You are indeed a very lucky woman BEG.

[dutch508]

You know, given the state of the subway cat, I've always been sort of leery, sort of kid-glovish, about posting her bonfires here.  She's obviously got a, uh, problem, and at times I fear she's about to do something most people wouldn't do.

However, it's all my fellow alum Skins's fault.

The subway cat is obviously disturbed, and posting on the internet only inflames her disturbances.

There's a mental hospital, and a variety of half-way houses in the big city near here.

At various times, I've inquired about the internet usage of the "clients."

And always, I've been told that no, inhabitants of the mental hospital are NOT allowed internet access, period, as it's been psychiatrically determined such a thing aggravates their condition.

No internet, period, for them.

As for residents of half-way houses, the rules are relaxed, but only slightly.

Probably 99% of them are denied internet access, period.

The favored 1% are allowed internet access, a half hour per day, usually, with a "chaperone" sitting right beside them as they're at the computer.  (i.e., they don't get to look up internet porn or Skins's island.)

I don't think the internet is a good outlet for the subway cat's anger, and I rather suspect her psychiatrists, psychologists, and mental-health counselors don't think so too.

If I were my fellow alum Skins, I'd mausoleum any primitive who displays strong clues of severe mental problems, for their own good, and for the Greater Good of Mankind in general.

I've never been sure why my fellow alum's never done that; after all, being a Democrat and a liberal, he's supposed to be concerned.

saying UGP has some issues is like saying the Hindenburg had some thermal issues...

[franksolich]

saying UGP has some issues is like saying the Hindenburg had some thermal issues...

Granted; that's why I think my fellow alum, as a concerned Democrat and liberal, should mausoleum her.

Otherwise, Skins is being a hypocrite, and that surprises me much.

[jtyangel]

BEG, that's really beautiful. You and your hubby have such a terrific thing going on there and you both have attitudes that reflect your appreciate and love for one another. A lucky woman indeed and your husband is a lucky man. 

[BEG]

BEG, that's really beautiful. You and your hubby have such a terrific thing going on there and you both have attitudes that reflect your appreciate and love for one another. A lucky woman indeed and your husband is a lucky man. 

If he leaves me and I have to become a stripper can I move in with you?   

[jtyangel]

If he leaves me and I have to become a stripper can I move in with you?   

Do we have to put a pole in the middle of the living room? 

[BEG]

Do we have to put a pole in the middle of the living room? 

But of course, a girl has to practice.  I can teach you "things". 

[jtyangel]

But of course, a girl has to practice.  I can teach you "things". 

I'm in Latin dance now, baby...I've got a trick or two for you too...

[BEG]

I'm in Latin dance now, baby...I've got a trick or two for you too...

Woo hoo, come visit with Schade and you can teach us both a thing or two. 

[jtyangel]

Woo hoo, come visit with Schade and you can teach us both a thing or two. 

Let's see if we get bonus this year first...

[BEG]

Let's see if we get bonus this year first...

You filthy rich repuke. 

[MrsSmith]

I can say with confidence that we have a successful marriage and I credit my husband for the majority of the success.  Not because I am some "weak little conservative" woman but because he is such a good person.   As of January 3rd of 2009 it will be 22 years and I would do it all over again in a heartbeat.  Kiss my ass UGP.

I definitely agree with you, when you pick a good spouse, it makes everything click.   Mr Smith and I are those most-hated "fundies," he's a Southern Baptist minister - though he doesn't work in the ministry anymore.  Given just that fact, many would assume they know all about our lives.    What a shock they'd get to find Mr Smith doing dishes and cleaning house (though he, also, never ever takes the trash out from anywhere except the kitchen) while I'm out working on a car or setting a fence post.    Those little boxes the Dims are so fond of just don't hold any real people.  Maybe someday they'll grow up enough to realize that no one fits their imaginings.

[Carl]

An obese thing with orange hair,freak clothes a circus clown wouldn`t wear and tattos all over her arms and probably places a sane mind wouldn`t allow themselves to think of lectures about what society should be?

That alone is laughable but what is pathetic is that the other minions there don`t have the balls enough to tell it the truth about itself.

[Duchess]

Let's say that was the case.  Would you be intollerant of a woman who decided this is how she wanted to live her life?  I'm betting the answer is YES.

Further evidence the myth of how liberals want women to be free to do as they wish is really about women doing as they wish as long as it falls within what they consider to be acceptable.

Sarah Palin is a wife, mother, governor who saw change needed to take place and instead of complaining about it got up and did something, etc...  Had she been a kook lib, they would have loved her.

.

This part makes me laugh. I'm a stay-at-home wife in a traditional marriage, and have a stable and loving relationship with my husband, who respects my opinion in all decisions, though we have mutually decided that where there's disagreement, he will cast the deciding vote, since someone has to, or we'd stay stuck. (However, the domestic realm is my exclusive kingdom). He's happy, I'm happy, and it's worked for over twenty years. I don't kiss his rear, we simply see it as the most pragmatic way to divvy up our lives together, each in our own spheres. I have been blessed and happy in my marriage and personal life. However much anger I have politically, my home and family are a safe and sane retreat from the storms.

Subway cat, however has an empty sad life on every level, and doesn't seem to understand even the basics of pursuing happiness, such as self-acceptance (real self-acceptance, not the perverted confused "self-acceptance" of those who for some reason, can't be what God made them) and compromise with loved ones, for the mutual security of all, and because caring about the happiness of loved ones, is one of the simplest and most gratifying paths to happiness there is.

How ironic that most conservatives I know, no matter what bitterness and anger they have towards the political maelstrom occurring, cab retreat to the safe haven of family and find some fulfillment and happiness, while liberals can never seem to find happiness either politically or personally, even when their "side" has won.