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subway cat has to get something off her chest
« on: November 12, 2008, 02:37:03 PM »
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undergroundpanther  (1000+ posts)         Wed Nov-12-08 02:09 AM
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I dunno how to say this.

I just gotta get this off my chest. just need someone out there to listen and maybe help explain this to me.

Some background....

My ex was a gay guy. His parents were fine with gay issues,his sister is a lesbian with a kid and long term partner,so parents were not the issue here.

Before he met me he was interested in some girl but refused to date her because he thought he was gay.Than he met me,said he was Bi.

He wastes ten years of my life pretending he's bi.Leading me on that he cares and all.He even marries the most butch masculine female(at that time) that is humanly possible without surgery.(it was before my transition.)Why?

So I ask you,is it possible that he was so callous ignorant and self absorbed he had no clue how bad he was hurting me by making passes at my straight friends until all I had for support was him,did he ever consider his emotional coldness was abusive,or was he in such ****ing denial TO HIMSELF ,telling himself that being gay was a choice,that to prove it to HIMSELF,I had to be hurt, lose my mom(she moved because she thought we were staying together) lose my own place in a good location, lose my insurance, I lost alot of my things some of the most precious things as he got involved and obsessed about religion.

I did stuff with him I normally would find distasteful,at his suggestion to try to work on the relationship,yet all I put in very little was returned yet he's say he loved me all the time,but acting like he did was not there.I was totally confused
by his mixed messages and coldness,and such.It wasn't like that in the beginning,he was a totally different person the first years we were together.

So does anyone think it was wrong I had to go through all that just so he could prove to himself being gay is not a choice? Go through it AFTER he had admitted to himself he was gay before,AFTER he had been out of the closet before,AFTER he had gay relationships before he met me..? WTF?

I got wounded, he found an orientation he always had and had admitted to himself he had even come out before too.So what kind of shit was this twisted asshole pulling here? I think he was an abusive narcissistic asshole.And he hurt me.

Right now I am really depressed,I feel like no one understands just how painful all this is after it's all done I still hurt..I am just beginning to feel what I have pushed down inside for years to cope.And I am pissed, I feel cheated,betrayed, you name it. I feel like I will because of where I live and the inability to go anywhere these circumstances that never would have occurred had he been HONEST WITH HIMSELF .

Does he hate women? does he hate trans-men? WTF? He was always so considerate to his mom and family but when I needed help he was not there but he took help from me and my mom.He is such a mommy's boy it was gross.Still,why did it take him TEN years of tearing my heart out and spitting on it,just to be honest with HIMSELF?

Why didn't he tell me I would have dropped him and moved on.He strung me along. He wasn't a stupid guy. I don't get it.And why did I have to lose so much in the process? Do gay men like him,who try to lie to themselves ever stop to think that their own denial harms others they get involved with? Or is the person betrayed just supposed to handle it and be OK after losing so much in a sham relationship?

Is it possible an abusive asshole could use being gay as an excuse to be abusive to women/butch/trans-guys he thinks are not as worthy as males in his twisted little mind? I don't know.

In this town GBLT people are closeted for the most part there is no place to socialize, not any place I could get to out here on the shitty half assed "bus" system they have out here that shuts down at 5 pm. I have nowhere to go,no one to help me take the edge off this stabbing regret ,anger and sadness.I am alone like I have been for most my life and I can't stand the emotional isolation much longer.

I think that I will die alone.

I hate my life now in this stupid town,I really do. I hate him too.I wish I had never met him. But I can't undo that. Now I am stuck.

Anyone who is defensive,just realize I am talking about MY experiences ok?

Oh my again.  It's all very sad.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 03:02:23 PM »
Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is.  WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do.  They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way.  It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well.  I say she got exactly what she gives out.  Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP. 

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 03:03:11 PM »
Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is.  WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them do.  They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way.  It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well.  I say she got exactly what she gives out.  Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP. 

Damn, you're good, madam.

That's exactly it, but you said it better than I could.
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 03:04:17 PM »
Can't say as I'm shocked she got screwed over.
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 03:17:58 PM »
This is why God made it where cats can't talk.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 03:27:28 PM »
WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do.

Well, first off, we're not exactly convinced it's a "she". At least, I know I'm not. Looks more like a mutant from some kind of movie about nuclear contamination.
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 03:28:54 PM »
Well, first off, we're not exactly convinced it's a "she". At least, I know I'm not. Looks more like a mutant from some kind of movie about nuclear contamination.

I thought she was a female who thought she was a male cat?!? 

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 03:29:14 PM »
Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is.  WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do.  They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way.  It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well.  I say she got exactly what she gives out.  Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP. 

I, too, have to let you say it for me.  Nice double entendre, by the way!   :-)
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 03:35:26 PM »
I believe that Dr. Freud would comment that she sought out someone like her dear old dad.  She has described her dad as abusive and cold.
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 03:39:19 PM »
I believe that Dr. Freud would comment that she sought out someone like her dear old dad.  She has described her dad as abusive and cold.

That's it.

But actually, most primitives have, or had, "dear old dad" problems.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 04:12:31 PM »
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..... I can't remember if *that* part of the surgery actually went ahead or not .....


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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 04:16:20 PM »
Ok. I'll admit it...

When UP said s/he had to get something off his/her chest, I thought s/he finally had that breast reduction surgery.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 04:18:01 PM »
I can't remember how long I've been hanging out with you guys counting the time here and at our old home, BUT if sometime before then someone would have come up to me and told me some of the problems, thoughts, and such that are posted at DU I would have called them insane.

Honestly, how many places other than DU can you find a story coming from a woman that thinks she's a man that thinks he's cat that begins with "My ex was a gay guy..."?
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 04:18:41 PM »
Her ex-gay-bi-boyfriend is the very example of what a Liberal is.  WHy should she be pissed off at him doing the very thing that 99.9% of them (liberals) do.  They do whatever feels good to them in the moment and screw anyone who gets hurt along the way.  It's all ME ME ME which is exactly what UGP is all about as well.  I say she got exactly what she gives out.  Sucks to be on the receiving end of a liberal, doesn't it UGP. 

H5, also, BEG.  

Ya know, the spot where UGP is in its' life is exactly where liberalism gets some of its' true adherants.  Married liberals, and especially liberals with children, are not "true" liberals, as "true" liberals don't want to deplete Mother Gaia's resources here on Earth by "reproducing," or having any possibility of reproducing (i.e., engaging in sex with a committed partner) and said "false" liberals have reproduced.
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2008, 04:32:45 PM »
OMG!!!  I am SO confused.  What is UGP?  Or does it change from week to week?  What did she or he begin life as?  I can't keep him/her straight.

Oh no, did I just say I can't keep him or her straight?  Ooooops.  My bad.  Bwahahahahahahaha!


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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2008, 04:56:16 PM »
Another liberal revelation.
It took UGP TEN YEARS to figure out this guy (?) was just using her.

Thats TEN years of doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

UGP: Defining insanity on a daily basis at DU.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2008, 04:59:04 PM »
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I did stuff with him I normally would find distasteful,

With it that could mean something as simple as being nice and acting sane.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2008, 07:06:28 PM »
I'm confused...I thought electing Obama would instantly right all that was wrong in the world.  Why doesn't the Messiah heal her or it?
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2008, 09:54:17 PM »
I'm confused...I thought electing Obama would instantly right all that was wrong in the world.  Why doesn't the Messiah heal her or it?

You got me.

I thought exactly the same thing, that the Big Zero was going to perform instant miracles, but so far not a damned thing has happened.

But I suspect there's some "healing" in the works for the subway cat; remember that a couple of months ago, Shelly Obama said people are "going to have to work" in the Obamareich.

I doubt however the message has gotten to the subway cat yet.
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2008, 09:58:16 PM »
Ok. I'll admit it...

When UP said s/he had to get something off his/her chest, I thought s/he finally had that breast reduction surgery.

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I think she/he/it/cat has already had that done.  I think I remember reading a post about it.


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4. Personally, I'm curious why you stuck with him all that time?
   
What were you getting out of the relationship - good sex? Did he make you laugh? If you look closely at dysfunctional relationships, both parties are always getting something out of it. I've been there, believe me. In my case, the sex was so satisfying that I stayed with him despite the nasty fighting we'd engage in. Not involved with him anymore, but I do miss the sex, lol.

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11. No,sex was not the reason.
   
The reason I think was intellectually he could keep up with me.
In my life I haven't met many people who can do that.



LOL!  So he was as nutty as she/he/it/cat is!   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2008, 10:12:53 PM »
You got me.

I thought exactly the same thing, that the Big Zero was going to perform instant miracles, but so far not a damned thing has happened.

But I suspect there's some "healing" in the works for the subway cat; remember that a couple of months ago, Shelly Obama said people are "going to have to work" in the Obamareich.

I doubt however the message has gotten to the subway cat yet.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2008, 11:21:17 PM »
Another liberal revelation.
It took UGP TEN YEARS to figure out this guy (?) was just using her.

Thats TEN years of doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

UGP: Defining insanity on a daily basis at DU.

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2008, 05:28:58 AM »
I'm confused...I thought electing Obama would instantly right all that was wrong in the world.  Why doesn't the Messiah heal her or it?
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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2008, 05:40:08 AM »
I am still trying to ascertain what gender the writer is, but aside from that -- this guy did nothing to her/him, she/he played the victim for him nicely.   

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Re: subway cat has to get something off her chest
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2008, 07:54:06 AM »
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My ex was a gay guy. His parents were fine with gay issues,his sister is a lesbian with a kid and long term partner,so parents were not the issue here.
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