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California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« on: November 05, 2008, 04:01:32 AM »
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California Prop 8 is passing
   
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http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/59.htm

Yes: 57.5% No: 42.5%
3.7% ( 958 of 25429 ) precincts reporting

That is a damned big lead to feel optimistic.

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Added http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/map190000000008.ht...
This map shows the county breakdowns as they come in.

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2. It depends on the precincts.
   
If it's from the eastern knuckle-draggers we have nothing to worry about.
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36. There is still hope
   
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 12:18 AM by nothingtoofear
Even if this passes today. There is still hope. Exit polls btw, put it at failing 52-48, so there is still hope tonight too.
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42. Let's face it: Americans, on the whole, are bigots
   
Crimeny, we have third world countries that have or soon will legalize same sex marriage. Using just about any metric you want, the United States is always down towards the bottom of where it should be.
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56. Maybe it's time for gay America to take their destiny into their own hands?
   
"The Master's Tools Will Never Dismantle the Master's House" - Audre Lorde

Does this resonate?
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63. Our candidate
   
Is directly implicated in this.

Donnie McClurkin.
Refusal to be photographed with Gavin Newsome.
Faith, Family and Values tour featuring Douglias Kmiec.
Biden being backed into a corner by Palin, forced to admit he doesn't support gay marriage.

Obama is not a friend to gays.
Dear Lord that was quick. Impeach Obama !!!11!

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Arizona Prop 102 will pass - **** the asshole bigots
   
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Plenty of Democrats voted yes on this piece of hatred.

**** ALL OF THEM.
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8. Nothing In This Country Ever Changes....
   
which is why I am going to emigrate to Canada as soon as I can arrange it. No matter who is in power in this ****ing US, the homophobes and fundies always seem to have the last ****ing word. At least Canada makes an effort to keep the fundies in line...over here, they are allowed to run rampant. No wonder I hate this ****ing bullshit theocracy masquerading as a democracy!
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 04:16:04 AM »
Quote from: bijou on November 05, 2008, 04:01:32 AM
Dear Lord that was quick. Impeach Obama !!!11!

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DUers' ability to be miserable in any circumstances never fails to amaze me.  :-)

We ain't seen nothing yet.

Give it about three days, and the primitives will be par for the course again.

Alas! the poor primitives! alas! never happy, the primitives! alas!

Even though there's no cake for us, this is the icing.
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 04:24:14 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on November 05, 2008, 04:16:04 AM
We ain't seen nothing yet.

Give it about three days, and the primitives will be par for the course again.

Alas! the poor primitives! alas! never happy, the primitives! alas!

Even though there's no cake for us, this is the icing.

Coach, once again, . . .

"They're not happy unless they're not happy--and spreading their unhappiness."

Right now, I'm in a really good mood.  Why?  Two lines:

The pendulum always swings back.

Be very careful what you ask for--sometimes, you get it.

I can't wait for those two to take effect!
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 04:30:11 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 05, 2008, 04:24:14 AM
Coach, once again, . . .

"They're not happy unless they're not happy--and spreading their unhappiness."

Right now, I'm in a really good mood.  Why?  Two lines:

The pendulum always swings back.

Be very careful what you ask for--sometimes, you get it.

Little do the primitives know.

Or the Democrats and liberals too.

I can't wait for those two to take effect!
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 04:47:21 AM »
LOL!  I already reasessed my Christmas spending.  The liberals on my list will receive a nice card with a note inside on how the wealth I was going to give them has been "redistributed" elsewhere.  I know it will send at least one of them ballistic, but them's the breaks.
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 05:09:51 AM »
Quote from: Vagabond on November 05, 2008, 04:47:21 AM
LOL!  I already reasessed my Christmas spending.  The liberals on my list will receive a nice card with a note inside on how the wealth I was going to give them has been "redistributed" elsewhere.  I know it will send at least one of them ballistic, but them's the breaks.

I should do that too! :fuelfire:
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 05:11:54 AM »
Quote from: Vagabond on November 05, 2008, 04:47:21 AM
LOL!  I already reasessed my Christmas spending.  The liberals on my list will receive a nice card with a note inside on how the wealth I was going to give them has been "redistributed" elsewhere.  I know it will send at least one of them ballistic, but them's the breaks.

I'm just going to sit back for a bit, waiting for the Big Zero to mail me the deed to El Stupido Supremo's second house in Connecticut.

El Stupido Supremo has two houses, and I have none, and I'm sure the Big Zero will redress this imbalance.
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 10:15:39 AM »
This little exchange was amusing

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81. Rather than whine about it, what if we start to take some action?
   
First of all, don't work for or attend any heterosexual marriage ceremonies, and tell your friends and family why you're not attending. I'm being serious. What do you all think of that idea?

Honestly, I'm tempted to ask every business I patronize whether or not the owner voted for or against Prop. 8, and then act accordingly.

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85. Seriously, when we don't attend their weddings guess what
   
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 09:55 AM by bluedawg12
happens?

Nothing. They just have one more rubber chicken dinner left over.

Nothing, pretty much what happens with all their protests and boycotts.
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 10:37:48 AM »
Prop 8 was soundly passed by Obama's black base.

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CBS Evening News: Californians Who Hope To Ban Gay Marriage Are Counting On Obama Voters To Give Them A Boost

SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 5, 2008

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(CBS) Those campaigning in California for Proposition 8, which would reinstate the ban on gay marriage, believe they'll get a lot of unintended help from Barack Obama on Election Day, reports CBS News correspondent John Blackstone.

"We thank Barack Obama, even though he's not supporting it, for helping us," says Sonja Eddings Brown, of an anti-gay-marriage group called Protect Marriage. "We think it's going to push us over the top."

Obama is expected to bring African-American voters out in record numbers, and those voters are seen as often being more conservative on issues involving homosexuality.

Pastor Edward Smith of Zoe Christian Fellowship has been urging members of his Los Angeles area church to vote for the gay marriage ban.

"Marriage has always been defined as a man and a woman," Smith says.

For Smith, it's the most significant item on the November ballot.

"This issue is more important than who becomes president of our states to me and to our Christian believers," he says.

But many African-American supporters of gay marriage see it as a civil rights issue, with gays fighting familiar battles, Blackstone reports.

"We were denied the right to marry a person of another race," says Alice A. Huffman, president of the California chapter of the National Association For the Advancement of Colored People. "Any time government intervenes and tells you what you can or can't do, it's a denial of your rights."

The California NAACP is trying to mobilize voters against the gay marriage ban, but at a meeting this past week showed, it's not an easy sell.

"If you believe in God and the Bible, how do you reconcile same gender marriages with Genesis 1:27 and 28?" asked one Obama supporter who is still undecided on the gay marriage ban. The Bible verse referenced is a commandment that called on the first man and woman to "be fruitful" and multiply.


This same base won't react kindly when the moonbats try to trot out more of their anti-Christian legislation, I think........

Swallow the pill DUmmies....I know it's bitter.

ETA link:  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/05/eveningnews/main4502738.shtml
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 10:42:03 AM »
Thank God SOMETHING to cheer about from yesterday.
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 10:46:02 AM »
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"We were denied the right to marry a person of another race," says Alice A. Huffman, president of the California chapter of the National Association For the Advancement of Colored People. "Any time government intervenes and tells you what you can or can't do, it's a denial of your rights."

The real issue here is why is the government in the marriage business?
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 10:49:19 AM »
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The real issue here is why is the government in the marriage business?

"Fees" for marriage licenses can be lucrative in some places.
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 10:52:40 AM »
Quote from: Bondai on November 05, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
The real issue here is why is the government in the marriage business?

Because the nuclear family is the foundation of ALL modern societies.  Either eliminate it completely or make it so it has some sort of societal good.
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 11:24:12 AM »
Quote from: Bondai on November 05, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
The real issue here is why is the government in the marriage business?

It's all about the benefits.  And looting the group health plans of insured nuclear families to pay for treatment of AIDS-infested fudgepackers.  Gay marriage really has jack shit to do with equality, it has to do with money.  Money for gays at the expense of straight families.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 12:14:33 PM »
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Let's face it: Americans, on the whole, are bigots

It's not others who need to "face it," it's freaks like you who believe they're normal when you're not that need to face it.  No one's gonna treat trash like you as though you're normal, that'll just never happen.

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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2008, 12:52:40 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 05, 2008, 11:24:12 AM
It's all about the benefits.  And looting the group health plans of insured nuclear families to pay for treatment of AIDS-infested fudgepackers.  Gay marriage really has jack shit to do with equality, it has to do with money.  Money for gays at the expense of straight families.

If the government forces me to wear a helmet riding my motorcycle due to having to possibly pick up my hospital costs if I crash, why doesn't the government ban bun darting as it is a proven way to pick up one of the most expensive diseases that taxpayers pick up 80%+ of the time?

I know 'm a racist, homophobe, bigot for asking that logical question.
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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2008, 12:56:27 PM »
Quote from: jukin on November 05, 2008, 12:52:40 PM
If the government forces me to wear a helmet riding my motorcycle due to having to possibly pick up my hospital costs if I crash, why doesn't the government ban bun darting as it is a proven way to pick up one of the most expensive diseases that taxpayers pick up 80%+ of the time?

You know, I never thought of that.

That's damned good.
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2008, 01:08:29 PM »
Quote from: jukin on November 05, 2008, 12:52:40 PM
If the government forces me to wear a helmet riding my motorcycle due to having to possibly pick up my hospital costs if I crash, why doesn't the government ban bun darting as it is a proven way to pick up one of the most expensive diseases that taxpayers pick up 80%+ of the time?

I know 'm a racist, homophobe, bigot for asking that logical question.

The fuhrer's new Domestic Force will be knocking at your door any moment now.



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Re: California Prop 8 is passing (still whining after all these years)
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2008, 04:29:11 PM »
Quote from: jukin on November 05, 2008, 12:52:40 PM
If the government forces me to wear a helmet riding my motorcycle due to having to possibly pick up my hospital costs if I crash, why doesn't the government ban bun darting as it is a proven way to pick up one of the most expensive diseases that taxpayers pick up 80%+ of the time?

I know 'm a racist, homophobe, bigot for asking that logical question.

"Bun darting"?  :lmao:

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