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Another veteran for Obama
« on: October 26, 2008, 01:13:53 PM »

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Charlie W. Williams of Raeford, N.C., a veteran of the Korean and Vietnam wars and supporter of Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama, lines up early to get into a rally at the Crown Coliseum in Fayetteville on Oct. 19. "He's going to get a lot of white votes," he said of his candidate.

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Is that a Boy Scout merit badge??  :rotf:
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 01:25:00 PM »
I didn't know Airborne was a branch of the military.   :rotf:
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 01:27:37 PM »
you have to read this: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=4391   :-)
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 03:10:55 PM »
I think the female E-7 shoulder boards are what makes that uniform complete.
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 03:17:37 PM »
I think the female E-7 shoulder boards are what makes that uniform complete.

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Do I see a Ranger AND and Airborne medals?  And what's the AA patch?  I know we have a couple of members that served there, but I forgot what it was.

And is that the expert rifle medal?
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 03:22:25 PM »
:evillaugh:

Do I see a Ranger AND and Airborne medals?  And what's the AA patch?  I know we have a couple of members that served there, but I forgot what it was.

And is that the expert rifle medal?

There's a LOT wrong with his medals as this blogger points out:

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I also looked for images of Army Medals and discovered that I also needed to find some Navy Medals, too.
The highest award is two awards of the Bronze Star, one with a ‘V’ for valor. Since it’s illegal to claim a medal for valor you’re not awarded, I absolutely believe that, without further evidence to the contrary. The rest are (in order viewers’ left to right and descending);
Purple Heart/Army Commendation Medal
Defense Meritorious Service Medal/Army Meritorious Service Medal
Reserve Component Overseas Training/Republic of Korea Service Medal/Army Acheivement/Good Conduct
Army of Occupation/Southwest Asia Service (Desert Storm)/Vietnam Service medal (3 stars)/National Defense
NATO Medal/Korea Service/Armed Forces Service Medal/Army Service Ribbon
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal/Army Overseas Ribbon /Navy Meritorious Unit/Navy Combat Action
United Nations Service/Republic of Viet Nam Campaign/Multinational Force and Observers Medal/Outstanding Volunteer Medal

Aside from the fact that his ribbons are all out of order (something a career NCO would never do), he has the Southwest Asia medal for Desert Storm, the Armed Forces Service medal (which is for service after 1992). He’s also wearing a Navy Combat Action ribbon, which he only could’ve earned as a member of the Navy or Marines. He also has an Overseas Service Ribbon which can only be awarded to people on active duty after 1981. The Multinational Force and Observers Medal didn’t come into being until Jimmy Carter started sending troops to the Sinai. His National Defense Service Medal has an oak leaf cluster, subsequent awards of the NDSM are denoted by a bronze star device not an oak leaf.
Willie is wearing medals and ribbons that didn’t come into existence until after he left the service since he says he was in Korea and Vietnam. He wears a star on his CIB so that means he had to have been in the Korean War before July 27, 1953. Since his Good Conduct Medal has five knots, he must’ve served between 15-18 years (each knot is three years of service) but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he did twenty, that means he retired before July 1973 and many of the medals he wears didn’t even exist at the time he retired and they’re awarded for service he couldn’t have.

The Outstanding Volunteer Medal didn’t come into existence until 1992 - Willie could have won it but he would had 40 years of service, but even Colin Powell only did 35. Most E-7s get booted if they don’t get promoted to E-8 before they hit 22 years.
He’s also sporting a 555th Parachute Infantry patch - the famous “Colored” Paratroopers. They disbanded in 1950 before the Korean War when the Army desegregated.

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 08:48:38 PM »
Did ya'll catch the Eagle Scout badge??

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 11:05:37 PM »
Did ya'll catch the Eagle Scout badge??

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WHat I want to know is who this guy thinks he is, stealing TiT's uniform and then parading around in public with it ?

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 11:40:08 PM »
His awards are as ****ed up as a soup sandwich.  BSM-PH-ARCOM, THEN a Joint MSM and an Army MSM?!?  A Marine marksmanship badge? Every campaign and service award available from 1953-2001...but no NDSM???  And is that a DSC under the Good Conduct Medal Ribbon -- WTF, over?  I'm thinking Ol' Willie 'Self-awarded' a bunch of that lettuce, if he'd ever had them on active duty he'd at least have the order right.     
On his right side, he also appears to have, preposterously if for reasons at opposite ends of the scale, both the OSR and BSM as unit citations, which is, ummmmm, 'Unusual.'
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 08:03:51 AM »
....and 3 buffalo nickels......I guess he was a buffalo soldier. maybe?????
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 08:05:11 AM »
I guess the business card counts as a medal too.  :whatever:

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 08:30:07 AM »
I also see a Navy Meritorious Unit Citation (MUC).  Not freakin likely he's got one of those.

Stolen Valor, anyone?

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 08:38:43 AM »
His awards are as ****ed up as a soup sandwich.  BSM-PH-ARCOM, THEN a Joint MSM and an Army MSM?!?  A Marine marksmanship badge? Every campaign and service award available from 1953-2001...but no NDSM???  And is that a DSC under the Good Conduct Medal Ribbon -- WTF, over?  I'm thinking Ol' Willie 'Self-awarded' a bunch of that lettuce, if he'd ever had them on active duty he'd at least have the order right.     
On his right side, he also appears to have, preposterously if for reasons at opposite ends of the scale, both the OSR and BSM as unit citations, which is, ummmmm, 'Unusual.'

Don't forget he's also sporting the Navy/USMC Cobat Action Ribbon.


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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 08:50:34 AM »
More importantly... if his last name is Williams, why does his name patch say "WILLIE"?? WTF?

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2008, 09:23:37 AM »
More importantly... if his last name is Williams, why does his name patch say "WILLIE"?? WTF?

The Military was a differant place back in the 50's.  Thats how the man was keeping him down.   :lmao:
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2008, 09:35:18 AM »
Did y'all see the Humanitarian Service Medal on the right side, behind a gold surround ??  Then, there's the SW Asia service ribbon from Desert Storm.
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2008, 06:17:45 PM »
Bottom line, this clown/dirtbag (and yes, I'll use the term regardless of his service) is giving the rest of us who served a big eff you.  I'd love to see him roll into the local Legion hall wearing that shit.
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2008, 06:19:41 PM »
you have to read this: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=4391   :-)

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2008, 06:28:27 PM »
Pathfinder badge worn on the wrong side, Three Presidential Unit Citations, Master Para with a 2/508th oval, a lot of crap I don't know, Are those Vietnamese jump wings?

No Jumpmaster is gonna be wearing that shit so ****ed up. Regardless of when he served, that's a lot of bullshit, there.
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 06:39:19 PM »
Pathfinder badge worn on the wrong side, Three Presidential Unit Citations, Master Para with a 2/508th oval, a lot of crap I don't know, Are those Vietnamese jump wings?

No Jumpmaster is gonna be wearing that shit so ****ed up. Regardless of when he served, that's a lot of bullshit, there.

Go back to Jonn's blog.  He also got some info on this gentleman.  One thing jumped out at me:

TAFMS: 293

293 days active duty.  In 25 YEARS.  And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that Oak Leaf Cluster on his Bronze Star a SILVER one, denoting not one but FIVE additional awards?
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2008, 02:31:53 PM »
Unless Commander and National Commander are different, he doesn't look anything like the real National Commander Jeff Roy.
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2008, 05:22:20 PM »
Pathfinder badge on the right? Reserve overseas ahead of an AAM? Name tape on the left? Southwest Asia service medal? ....and is that an Army Occupation ribbon?

Damn, how many years did this dude serve? 50?

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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2008, 05:24:13 PM »
This guy must be kin to TiT somehow.
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2008, 08:58:14 PM »
Do Army Doggies get awarded the Humanitarian Service medal?? And if so, is it worn on the right breast ??
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Re: Another veteran for Obama
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2008, 09:01:11 PM »
Do Army Doggies get awarded the Humanitarian Service medal?? And if so, is it worn on the right breast ??

yeah, they can get it, but it's on the left, with the rest of the national awards.

only unit awards or foreign awards are on the right.
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