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Offline CactusCarlos

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USMB: Socialism by any definition
« on: October 25, 2008, 09:10:41 PM »
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It may take more than a 150k clothing allowance to hide the balls it took Sarah Palin of all people to accuse anyone of being a Socialist. Just ask yourself which of the 50 states is in fact the most Socialist state. If you come up with any other state besides Alaska, IMO you either haven't investigated or are given to self-deception.

Having read the definitions proffered on another thread while sincerely trying to eliminate Alaska as socialist and failing miserably what can I do but offer this opinion. If the government takes the profits gained from a natural resource and disseminates a portion of taxes gained from this industry so as to eliminate state taxes and even after that actually gives a share of said profits to each and every citizen can it be called anything other than Socialism? It would seem that Sarah has no problem with Socialism as practiced in her home state, she only has a problem with anyone else trying to somehow share the wealth and thereby possibly actually help the middle class out.

While this is far from the first and only example of hypocrisy exhibited by McCain's choice as VP it is easily among the most amazing example of don't do as I do, do as I say.

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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."
  -- Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU

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Re: USMB: Socialism by any definition
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 06:11:50 PM »
Quote from: CactusCarlos on October 25, 2008, 09:10:41 PM
http://www.usmessageboard.com/elections-2008/61982-socialism-by-any-definition.html



Is the current arrangement in regard to oil revenue being used in lieu of taxation voluntary on the part of all parties involved?  That is to say, is it the result of a contractual agreement?

If so, then it isn't socialism, it's the price of doing business.

Many object to socialism because they feel it is inefficient and/or unworkable.  I hold that this is irrelevant, that socialism is objectionable because of the very coercion which, as far as I am aware, the aforementioned Alaskan model does not depend upon, but European socialism does.

If I'm wrong, on the other hand, then the idiot libtard does have a point I think.
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