dumb girl primitive wants to rat on relative; lying titty primitive advises

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4289163

Oh my.

The dumb girl primitive, the primitive who was going to get into the face of distinguished U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia when her college class visited him, but as she had announced all this beforehand on Skins's island, Library Lady from our old home got the dumb girl primitive into all sorts of trouble.

That was hilarious, but this alas isn't.

demgurl  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 05:49 PM
Original message
 
Questions About Reporting a Pedophile. 

There is a pedophile in my family and everyone seems more than happy to cover for them even though they molested a child in the family. I am positive that if this person is not reported that they will do it again. The parents of the victim are not willing to press charges on behalf of the nine year old.

I feel a moral obligation to report this person but my husband, whose family this is, is against it. Am I legally required to report the pedophile? Even if I do, will the authorities do anything if the parents will not press charges? The father of the victim is so against pressing charges that he will not even discuss anything in emails so there is no proof on his computer. (I don't think there is a danger of authorities confiscating the computer but to each his own)

Please offer me professional or personal opinions. I appreciate anything you can offer.

MichiganVote (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
 
1. You can report suspicion of abuse to your local PS service anonymously.

You are not legally responsible unless you are a mandated reporter / professional, teacher, etc.

MNDemNY  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
 
2. Are you a health care provider, or do you work in education?

If you do, you are bound by law to report your suspected abuse. Even if the abuse is totally outside the scope of your job.

demgurl  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #2
 
23. I am not a health care provider....but I am a substitute teacher. So even if the child does not go to my school, I am still obligated to report it?

Thanks for any info.

MNDemNY  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #23
 
26. YES you are. You are OBLIGATED, go to your Principal, or a Union Rep.

demgurl  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #26
 
28. Can my principal report it if it is not within our school?

I am sorry if that is a dumb question, just trying to make sure since we are not even in the same county, but we are in the same state. Heck, the victim's mother is a school librarian at another school. She would also be obligated, right?

MNDemNY  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #28
 
35. Yes, I'm sure they have procedures for such things.

And Yes, the victims mother IS obligated. (as well as morally deficient for not doing so already.)

That's pretty much the flow of the bonfire, until Mr. KnowItAllDoneItAll shows up, having apparently missed the bonfire about M-16 rifles where his opinion was urgently needed:

TomInTib  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
 
4. I would confront the freak.

I would tell him right up-front that the entire family is on to him and, that if you even smell a hint of a rumor that he may be up to no good, that you will go public with it - and damn the consequences.

Sounds as if your husband's family may have more than their share of secrets and troubles.

mycritters2  (1000+ posts)        Wed Oct-22-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #4
 
6. Reporting anonymously to one's state child protective service is more effective.

Confronting him won't change the behavior. It'll just make him sneakier about it.

There are experts who know how to handle this. They should be contacted.

TomInTib  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #6
 
16. Yeah, but she had better be right.

Otherwise, it will be Family Implosion Time.

BlueIris  (1000+ posts)        Wed Oct-22-08 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #45
 
48. No shit. 

My first call in this situation would be the the police and/or CPS. The next call? A divorce attorney.

TomInTib  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #45
 
61. That's what I was thinking, as well.

I would get away from that bunch just as quickly as I could.

Of course, I probably wouldn't have lasted thru the first Thanksgiving Dinner with them.

demgurl  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #4
 
36. Well, the problem with confronting him......is I believe this person to be emotionally, if not mentally, retarded. (it is sad and he is only 16) After all of this happened, the person picked up the victim's sibling and brought her to the father as if nothing bad had ever happened. I honestly do not know if he even understands what he did was wrong or how wrong it is.

You would not believe the amount of secrets and troubles. My cousin said the family is like being caught up in a bad soap opera!

My husband really wants to know that if we went to the authorities that even without his brother's help they could do something to reign in the perp.

TomInTib  (1000+ posts)      Wed Oct-22-08 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #36
 
66. I thought you were talking about an adult.

This presents a wholly different set of problems.

His parents should be brought to task and probably by the proper authorities.

What a mess. Growing up in ultra-rural Texas, we would have taken him out and beaten him to a pulp, retarded or not. And then we would have strongly impressed on him that it would be a lot worse if there were ever a "next time".

I do not envy your plight, one bit.

After which the Ann Landers to the primitives takes his leave, and other primitives, including Doug's ex-wife and the low-calorie primitive, chime in with advice and reassurance.

[Texacon]

Makes me wonder how many ass whuppin's ol TiT has had himself.

KC

[lastparker]

Until I got to the "perp's" age and mental state, I was waiting for the "perp" to be labeled a Freeptard, McSame Supporter....

But this appears to be a whole different ball of wax.  Yikes.  And I can't believe dumbgirl left out the pertinent information until POST #36!!!   

[franksolich]

And I can't believe dumbgirl left out the pertinent information until POST #36!!!

Primitives do things like that, madam.

[Airwolf]

What a man TiT must be to feel he has to beat a handicapped person regardless of the type of handicap.

[Vagabond]

Wait a second. Mentally retarded, and has a driver's license?  I guess it would depend on the degree of retardation. 

Plus, something tells me she may be omitting pertinent information.  The parents of the molested child allow the perpetrator to pick up and drop off their other child?  That does not compute. 

If she has evidence, and is a teacher, then yes she is required by law to present that evidence and her suspicions to approproate local authorities.  The problem is she says it happened, and "everyone knows" not that this child told her anything.  That's rumor and innuendo, the authorities could not build a case from that.

[Ptarmigan]

Looks like DUmmies like to throw their families under the bus over something so trivial.

[GOBUCKS]

What a man TiT must be to feel he has to beat a handicapped person regardless of the type of handicap.

Well, if TiT's going to beat up on anyone, he's working with a pretty limited pool of candidates.

A 60-some year-old drug-addled alcoholic is not exactly Apollo Creed, you know.

[Flame]

I call bullshit on the whole story.  NO dad that I know of would tolerate sexual abuse of their 9 yr old daughter, regardless of WHO did it.  SO she's either making the whole thing up, or completely exaggerating parts of the story.

[Bondai]

I call bullshit on the whole story.  NO dad that I know of would tolerate sexual abuse of their 9 yr old daughter, regardless of WHO did it.  SO she's either making the whole thing up, or completely exaggerating parts of the story.

I agree...something doesn't add up.

[Airwolf]

Well, if TiT's going to beat up on anyone, he's working with a pretty limited pool of candidates.

A 60-some year-old drug-addled alcoholic is not exactly Apollo Creed, you know.

Well that is true. One hit from his opponent and his brains would liquefy

[DumbAss Tanker]

Well that is true. One hit from his opponent and his brains would liquefy

Too late.

[FlaGator]

This one should be easy for a lib. If the suspected perp is going to vote for Obama then let him be. Anything else and he should be in prison anyways so turn him in.