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More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« on: October 20, 2008, 07:04:29 PM »
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LynneSin  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:05 AM
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As You Have Done Unto the Least of These, You Have Done Unto Me -Jesus Christ 
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I want every one of those hypocritical republicans to remember that when they consider what the Bush administration of these past 8 years.

How many families were destroyed because of this economic crash?

How many children will have only one parent because another was lost in Iraq?

How many families have not returned to normal life since Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Fay, Ike and a host of other destructive hurricanes?

How many families have maxed out their credit in order to cover the basics like food and gas to get to their job.

I don't care if you, a member of DU, call yourself Christian or not - that makes no difference. What I care is that those who call themselves 'Christians' and are not outraged by what George Bush has done to our country and to the least of these. Because what Bush and those who support him have done to the least of these in our country is SHAMEFUL and with total disrespect to the tenets of our Christian faith.

I know I'm not perfect, I don't give out change for every request asked of me. But I try my best to make this a better country and I support Obama because I believe he will make this a better country by not neglecting those who have been forgotten these past 8 years - which pretty much is 95% of this country (and that includes plenty of republicans living on the poverty line too).

No matter what you believe in God or Jesus, I think all of you can believe that Jesus had some great things to say about how to live our lives (and I'm talking the 4 Gospels only - not that crap in the old testament or done by Paul).

Jesus could return to earth and I have a feeling most so called 'Christians' and especially those who vote republican wouldn't have a clue who he was. If you are a person of faith there is no way you can vote for a person that will only continue this practice of supporting the wealthiest of our country.

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AndyA  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:07 AM
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1. I"ve long believed that these people who call themselves "Christians" truly are not Christians.
 The whole do unto others, thou shalt not kill, casting the first stone, etc., thing pretty much does it for me. These are commandments, and they cannot be altered.

Thanks for your post.
 

How about: Go and sin no more?

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bob_weaver (1000+ posts)      Mon Oct-20-08 11:08 AM
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2. Sadly, the Republicans have nothing to do with the actual teachings of Jesus of Nazareth
 They only use that to attract voters, but their actual agenda is almost diametrically opposed to the teachings that Jesus elaborated, for example, the sermon on the mount, etc.


As opposed those of the democratic 'faith? Abortion, Gay marrage, etc.

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roguevalley  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 02:20 PM
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24. I agree. I am a Jamesian believer. Paul never met Jesus, didn't
 know his thoughts and turned everything he did know around 180 degrees. I have no respect for the appease tyrants and do as your told Christianity of Paul. Look where it has taken us all these years. Poor Jesus. What a mess things have been made of his goodness and teachings.


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LynneSin  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:27 AM
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14. I don't think people have to be Christians to believe in the teachings of Jesus 
 Gandhi was a big fan of Jesus Christ. The man had some good words about how to live a decent life - words clearly lost on these Xtian/Paulists that still support Bush/McCain.


Not believing Christ was devine is a huge stumbling block to being Christian...

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Midlodemocrat  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:08 AM
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4. But, but, LynneSin. Abortion is WRONG. 
 say the one issue voters. 

Never mind the fact that that stupid ****ing chimp and his six years of a Republican Congress and his right leaning SCOTUS didn't make any effort whatsoever to overturn Roe v. Wade. Becaues most Americans support a women's right to choose, you idiots.

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LynneSin  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:10 AM
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7. Abortion is like Homosexuality - taking scripture and manipulating it for a cause 
 I defy anyone to point to a section in the GOSPELS that claim Jesus said "Abortion is Wrong" or "Homosexuality is Wrong". It can't be found. Only passages that 'claim' the intent and even then I think most of the Homosexuality ones are found elsewhere and not in the gospels.
 


Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. (Leviticus 18:22)
 
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. (Leviticus 20:13)

Seem pretty clear to me.

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LPH (3 posts)      Mon Oct-20-08 02:29 PM
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26. .
 Its democrats that wouldn't a clue who Jesus was. Why blame republican for the economic crisis when all the evidence leads the fact that democrats caused all these economic problems?

As far as Iraq I should remind you that it was both democrats and republican who supported the war. Clinton and many other prominent democrats supported invading Iraq.

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oktoberain  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 07:37 PM
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44. What evidence???
 You mean the same evidence that you have for God's existence? The kind that's only convincing because you REALLY REALLY WANT to believe it, dammit?
God you people are stupid. Please do the world a favor and refrain from breeding.


Gotta bash God to get your DU street creds.

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oktoberain  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 07:50 PM
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51. I didn't, Lynne.
 I didn't make any judgement statements about Christians or Christianity at all, other than to indirectly profess my *own* belief that there is no evidence for God's existence, just like there is no evidence that the Democrats are to blame for the fiscal mess, and that this person believes in both only because he/she really, really WANTS it to be true. It isn't "lumping" to express my *own* beliefs.

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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 07:41:37 PM »
How many families were destroyed because of this economic crash?  That was caused by Democratic regulations, and the fixes were blocked by Democratic senators...


How many children will have only one parent because another was lost in Iraq?   Do you want to compare that to the million plus that were murdered every year of the war?

How many families have not returned to normal life since Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Fay, Ike and a host of other destructive hurricanes?  Just like the Middle Ages, the weather is the fault of the King.   :thatsright:

How many families have maxed out their credit in order to cover the basics like food and gas to get to their job. Only the ones who weren't smart enough to turn off Cable and internet access.

I don't care if you, a member of DU, call yourself Christian or not - that makes no difference. What I care is that those who call themselves 'Christians' and are not outraged by what George Bush has done to our country and to the least of these.   Oh, we're outraged about the least of these...those murdered before birth.  Those taken from caring parents due to anti-religious bias.  Those who will not be adopted because religious adoption agencies have been forced to close.

I know I'm not perfect, I don't give out change for every request asked of me...I don't tithe to a church to keep it open for use as a shelter in disasters, or to help with disaster kitchens.  I don't give to charities.  I don't donate my time...

But I try my best to make this a better country and I support Obama because I believe he will make this a better country by not neglecting those who have been forgotten these past 8 years - which pretty much is 95% of this country (and that includes plenty of republicans living on the poverty line too). by leving taxes that will send more jobs overseas, penalizing companies that will be forced to lay off even more workers, taxing small businesses that will be unable to expand, and redistributing wealth so that all can keep their cable TV, their internet access, the PS3 and WII, etc. etc. 

No matter what you believe in God or Jesus, I think all of you can believe that Jesus had some great things to say about how to live our lives Yes, He did.  Maybe you should go read them...

Jesus could return to earth and I have a feeling most so called 'Christians' and especially those who vote republican wouldn't have a clue who he was. If you are a person of faith there is no way you can vote for a person that will only continue this practice of supporting the wealthiest of our country.
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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 07:43:44 PM »
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oktoberain  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 07:37 PM
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44. What evidence???
 You mean the same evidence that you have for God's existence? The kind that's only convincing because you REALLY REALLY WANT to believe it, dammit?
God you people are stupid. Please do the world a favor and refrain from breeding.

Poor okto...Christians have far more kids than the libs...and we let ours all live.   :-) :-) :-)
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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 07:49:09 PM »
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No matter what you believe in God or Jesus, I think all of you can believe that Jesus had some great things to say about how to live our lives (and I'm talking the 4 Gospels only - not that crap in the old testament or done by Paul).

In other words "I am going to cherry pick a few verses out of their context and then throw away everything else that I don`t agree with"

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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 07:58:47 PM »
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LynneSin  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:05 AM
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As You Have Done Unto the Least of These, You Have Done Unto Me -Jesus Christ  
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I want every one of those hypocritical republicans to remember that when they consider what the Bush administration of these past 8 years.

Yes, I'll remember these past eight years fondly.  Tripling my salary, and more soon from they day Bush was inaugarated.  Buying a house.  My wife and I having our first two kids.  Yep, good times.

How many families were destroyed because of this economic crash?

DUmmie, I hate to tell you this but economic and financial crises have tended to hit once every twenty years or so.  Last major financial crisis was? 1987.  So yep, right on schedule.  Guess what will happen about twenty years from now DUmmie.  It's called capitalism.

How many children will have only one parent because another was lost in Iraq?

Yes, because wars never happened under Democratic presidents or cost a lot more because Democrat presidents wouldn't take effective action early enough.  Clinton could have prevented most of this.  He chose not to, because it would have been difficult.

How many families have not returned to normal life since Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Fay, Ike and a host of other destructive hurricanes?

Oh, pretty much everyone is back to normal.  Pretty much if they were welfare parasites before they are now too.  If they were productive members of society before, they pretty much are now.

How many families have maxed out their credit in order to cover the basics like food and gas to get to their job.

Not many, you see we Americans are an adaptive sort.  We can carpool if gas is tight, and make things from scratch when the food budget is tight.  It is something DUmmies don't understand.

I don't care if you, a member of DU, call yourself Christian or not - that makes no difference. What I care is that those who call themselves 'Christians' and are not outraged by what George Bush has done to our country and to the least of these. Because what Bush and those who support him have done to the least of these in our country is SHAMEFUL and with total disrespect to the tenets of our Christian faith.

Jesus was speaking specifically of actions taken for or against those who could not defend themselves.  It seems to me that a baby in it's mother's womb is totally defenseless except for it's mother.  Are you sure want to go down this path DUmmie?

I know I'm not perfect, I don't give out change for every request asked of me. But I try my best to make this a better country and I support Obama because I believe he will make this a better country by not neglecting those who have been forgotten these past 8 years - which pretty much is 95% of this country (and that includes plenty of republicans living on the poverty line too).

This is your basis.  Your entire rant boils down to, the government doesn't care about ME!  The government should give ME things!  The government should take from others and give it to ME!  Perhaps you should review your bible and not covet what others have.

No matter what you believe in God or Jesus, I think all of you can believe that Jesus had some great things to say about how to live our lives (and I'm talking the 4 Gospels only - not that crap in the old testament or done by Paul).

Saul of Tarsus may disagree with you.  God came to him personally.  It doesn't matter that he didn't meet Jesus.

Jesus could return to earth and I have a feeling most so called 'Christians' and especially those who vote republican wouldn't have a clue who he was. If you are a person of faith there is no way you can vote for a person that will only continue this practice of supporting the wealthiest of our country.

You would persecute him.  He told you fools that he came to reinforce and complete the law and you fools have no real concept of what that law actually says.

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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 01:31:15 AM »
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LynneSin  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:05 AM
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As You Have Done Unto the Least of These, You Have Done Unto Me -Jesus Christ
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I want every one of those hypocritical republicans to remember that when they consider what the Bush administration of these past 8 years.

LynneSin (is that your cutesy attempt at rebellion?), honestly sweetcheeks, I have poultry smarter than you. Isn't it you folks who are always going on and on and on about the separation between church and state? Still, having prevented another terror attack (and thus killing more of your fellow citizens), giving 2 nations a chance at freedom, giving more to combating AIDS in Africa than any other president in history, I'd say Bush has done a pretty decent job of remembering the "least" of us.

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How many families were destroyed because of this economic crash?

Until you're willing to admit the role that Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Barak Obama, ACORN, etal played in this...because lets face it, they were MOST responsible...you have no freaking business bringing this up.

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How many children will have only one parent because another was lost in Iraq?

You know, nobody's there that didn't volunteer. Whether reenlisted or enlisted for the first time, those currently serving know they could be sent to a war zone. Some people actually put service above self...I know that's a foreign concept when your world view is shaped by selfishness and rage but personally I'd rather have to tell my child his daddy died in service to his country than his daddy got hit by a car on the way to cash the welfare check because he was so stoned he didn't see the oncoming car.

Of course, one could always look at it from a different point of view: think of all the mothers and daughters who have been saved from rape, torture, and death at the hands of Saddam's boys. Oh, I know...the money spent in Iraq could be better spent providing you free health care, food stamps for life, free housing in a gated community, or whatever else you think is "owed" to you just because you weren't a victim of Roe v. Wade and were thus granted life. After all, aren't YOUR needs more important than those of a 15 year old Iraqi girl? You people are only the most compassionate people on the planet when you don't have to fight for it, to sacrifice anything.

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How many families have not returned to normal life since Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Fay, Ike and a host of other destructive hurricanes?

Yeah cuz as we all know if the Messiah was president he could go into each of these places and turn loaves and fishes into caviar and lobster, water into wine, and bricks into brand new houses, each with their own Greek columns on the front porch.

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How many families have maxed out their credit in order to cover the basics like food and gas to get to their job.

Um, if you can't afford to buy food you really don't have any business having a credit card. If you can't afford the "basics" perhaps it's time to reassess where you are because you're clearly living beyond your means.

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I don't care if you, a member of DU, call yourself Christian or not - that makes no difference. What I care is that those who call themselves 'Christians' and are not outraged by what George Bush has done to our country and to the least of these. Because what Bush and those who support him have done to the least of these in our country is SHAMEFUL and with total disrespect to the tenets of our Christian faith.

WHAT has he done to the country? Seriously! I hear this from you all the time. He didn't cause the hurricanes and didn't force anyone to live in areas that are frequently hit. I live in an area susceptible to forest fires, every year there's one or two nearby...some closer than others. It's MY choice to live here, not the government's. I have a creek that surrounds my property and every year the dang thing rises. Sometimes it floods. It's MY choice to live here, not the government's. I know the risks and I accept them as the price of living in such a beautiful, pristine place. Nature can be a bitch sometimes.

Besides, just what have YOU done for the "least" of these in our country? Have you volunteered at a soup kitchen, driven and elderly neighbor to doctor appointments, the library, or the grocery store, read to a child in a homeless shelter, donated food, money or both to a food pantry, donated an extra box of crayons to your child's classroom? It's easy to cut someone a check, to have that pretend compassion where you get angry because "the government" (the most impersonal institution on the planet) isn't doing "more". It's much harder to make a personal commitment, to put yourself out there, to make real change on a personal level which is much more meaningful and long lasting than anything the government can do.

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I know I'm not perfect, I don't give out change for every request asked of me. But I try my best to make this a better country and I support Obama because I believe he will make this a better country by not neglecting those who have been forgotten these past 8 years - which pretty much is 95% of this country (and that includes plenty of republicans living on the poverty line too).

I don't think moaning and bitching on DU or voting for Obama qualifies as ways to make this country better. Just what the heck HAVE you done for those 95%? God doesn't love or hate people based on their income levels, only the left does that. You can be rich, poor, or middle class and still have blessings from God. Blessings don't always involve money and that's where you people really show how completely shallow you are because everything that's important to you IS about money, greed...you tell yourselves and everyone else who will listen that you want to help "the poor", you want things to be "fair", but if that's true why aren't people like Warren Buffet, George Soros, Peter Lewis and 99% of the Hollywood elite not redistributing their own wealth to "the poor"? Until you people practice what you preach shut the **** up about all your compassion for "the poor" and middle class.

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No matter what you believe in God or Jesus, I think all of you can believe that Jesus had some great things to say about how to live our lives (and I'm talking the 4 Gospels only - not that crap in the old testament or done by Paul).

Firstly, a Christian believes in the WHOLE Bible, even the "crap" done by Paul (who, incidentally was pretty progressive in his views about women for the time he lived). And don't forget, Jesus believed the Old Testament, it was HIS Bible. He said plenty of stuff, none of which sounds remotely like Karl Marx. Were that the case, he would've confiscated the loaves and fishes from the "haves" and broke them into equal pieces to give to the "have nots" and most likely not even given the ones who OWNED said bread and fish their fair share. Granted, that wouldn't have given even ONE person enough to eat but at least it would be "fair". Who the heck cares whether the guy with the fish got up at the crack of dawn to attend to his fishing business so he could leave a little early to hear Jesus speak? What difference does it make that the family with the loaf of bread grew the wheat, harvested it with their own hands, ground it, and then baked it into bread? They still have more than all the people who didn't think to bring a picnic. (Perhaps some of you need to reread "The Little Red Hen" in addition to the New Testament.) Oh, and he also talked about swords, not being here to bring peace, and other warmonger "crap".

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Jesus could return to earth and I have a feeling most so called 'Christians' and especially those who vote republican wouldn't have a clue who he was. If you are a person of faith there is no way you can vote for a person that will only continue this practice of supporting the wealthiest of our country.

I don't know, I highly doubt God is going to damn people based on their political party. We're all judged individually based on how we live our lives. God doesn't see us all as a collective and so isn't going to send us to Heaven or Hell based on the groups we do or don't belong to (well, I guess if we belong to the KKK, NAMBLA, a Columbian drug cartel or the ACLU it might count against us). Nor did he have a problem with wealthy people, some were part of his ministry, they gave him and his disciples places to stay and food to eat. Jesus wasn't born with a copy of "The Christian Manifesto" in his tiny little fist because his message was much more profound than who is rich or poor or what political party one would belong to a couple thousand years in the future. So before you go pointing your finger at others, look to some of your own...I bet Babs Streisand would have a pretty hard time fitting through the eye of that needle, too.

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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 02:08:57 AM »
It's interesting that the very people who bitch about their delusions of the religious right attempting to instate a theocracy later bitch that the religious right hasn't instituted a theocracy.
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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 05:57:33 AM »
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How many children will have only one parent because another was lost in Iraq?

Why is single parenthood applauded when it is self created and even awarded via welfare, free daycare, etc? Just curious :popcorn:

Now a traditional family matters to the dems?  :lmao:

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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 06:02:10 AM »
Hi-5's all around. Great  comments in this thread! :cheersmate: :bow:

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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 06:34:38 AM »
Oh my.

The village idiots trying to explain Einsteinian physics to us again.
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Re: More Christ bashing: As You Have Done Unto the Least of These
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 12:43:38 PM »
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LynneSin  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-20-08 11:05 AM
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As You Have Done Unto the Least of These, You Have Done Unto Me -Jesus Christ


Abortion - Nuff said Beotch!
Oh by the way, one thing God spoke out against repeatedly is hypocrisy. Cherry picking the teachings of Jesus to fit your perverse politics is the height of it.
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