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The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« on: October 19, 2008, 04:25:27 PM »

I can't imagine a worse pick for Sec of State, unless it's Obama's senior foreign policy adviser Susan Rice . . . saying that
she usually seems to need sedation is the politest thing that I can think of to say about her.

 . . . and wasn't he in viet nam?

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The Next Administration: Obama

If he is elected to the presidency, Sen. Barack Obama and his advisers have promised to bring bipartisanship and experience to his administration.

Advisers suggest that among those who would be considered for Cabinet-level positions are two Republicans, Sens. Richard G. Lugar (Ind.) and Chuck Hagel (Neb.).

A leading candidate for White House chief of staff is Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.), the former Senate majority leader, but there could be dark horse candidates, including Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), a close Obama adviser who worked for President Clinton.

Several advisers to Obama also said the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), could be on the shortlist to become secretary of state.

Obama has already turned to veterans of the Clinton White House for guidance, tasking former chief of staff John Podesta, now head of a prominent liberal think tank, to coordinate his preliminary transition efforts. Leading the effort to decide personnel on the transition is Cassandra Q. Butts, a law school friend of Obama's and an associate at Podesta's Center for American Progress.

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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 04:37:43 PM »
Kerry - SecState

Powell - SecDef

Jerry Brown - AG

Gorelick - FBI

Berger - NSC

Carter - UN Ambassador
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 04:39:46 PM »
and Dennis the Menace for Secretary of Peace.
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 05:48:45 PM »
John Kerry is soon to become the senior senator from MA.  He isn't leaving that position - no way, no how. 
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 05:50:30 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on October 19, 2008, 05:48:45 PM
John Kerry is soon to become the senior senator from MA.  He isn't leaving that position - no way, no how. 

it would make sense for the dem party, since MA is a safely idiotic state (which is to say it is safely dem), it wouldn't cost them what could turn out to be an important seat in the senate.
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 05:59:35 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 19, 2008, 05:50:30 PM
it would make sense for the dem party, since MA is a safely idiotic state (which is to say it is safely dem), it wouldn't cost them what could turn out to be an important seat in the senate.

I predict Romney winning Kennedy's vacant seat in a landslide.   Kerry isn't going anywhere.
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 06:05:11 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on October 19, 2008, 05:59:35 PM
I predict Romney winning Kennedy's vacant seat in a landslide.   Kerry isn't going anywhere.

we'll put a dollar on it.  if The Chosen One is elected, I'll bet that kerry pulls a muscle by answering the phone so fast.

being 1/100 of 1/2 of 1/3 of the federal gov't ain't all that huge a deal, if you think about it.
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 06:09:48 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 19, 2008, 06:05:11 PM
we'll put a dollar on it.  if The Chosen One is elected, I'll bet that kerry pulls a muscle by answering the phone so fast.

being 1/100 of 1/2 of 1/3 of the federal gov't ain't all that huge a deal, if you think about it.

It has been a considerable thorn in Kerry's side that after 20+ years (doing nothing) in the Senate, he is constantly referred to as the junior senator.   MA is a Kennedy state, no question about that.  Kerry is considered the red-headed step child when compared to him.

I would be tremendously surprised to see him take a short term gig as Secretary of State.    But the man is a total tool moron, so who knows.

 
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2008, 06:15:36 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on October 19, 2008, 06:09:48 PM
It has been a considerable thorn in Kerry's side that after 20+ years (doing nothing) in the Senate, he is constantly referred to as the junior senator.   MA is a Kennedy state, no question about that.  Kerry is considered the red-headed step child when compared to him.

I would be tremendously surprised to see him take a short term gig as Secretary of State.    But the man is a total tool moron, so who knows.


I don't think there's that huge a difference between being the SR senator from a state and being the JR senator from a state.  just off the top of my head, trent lott leapfrogged that cochran for senate majority leader several years ago . . . hillary ran for prez and not that whackjob shumer . . . obama is the nominee and he was only a senator for about 15 seconds before he started running for prez . . .

I haven't ever been a senator before, but the biggest difference between the senior and junior senators from particular states seems to be nothing but the word.
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2008, 06:45:39 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 19, 2008, 06:15:36 PM
I don't think there's that huge a difference between being the SR senator from a state and being the JR senator from a state.  just off the top of my head, trent lott leapfrogged that cochran for senate majority leader several years ago . . . hillary ran for prez and not that whackjob shumer . . . obama is the nominee and he was only a senator for about 15 seconds before he started running for prez . . .

I haven't ever been a senator before, but the biggest difference between the senior and junior senators from particular states seems to be nothing but the word.

Title, assignments, power.    A lot comes with the title.  I don't usually refer to wikipedia, but it was a the first hit on google so:

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The seniority in the United States Senate is based upon a series of ranked factors; only resorting to the next factor when tied.[1]

Senior Senator and Junior Senator are terms commonly used in the media to describe United States Senators. Each state sends two senators to serve in the Senate; the longer (continuously) serving of the two is by convention referred to as the senior senator, and the other is referred to as the junior senator. If both are elected at the same time (e.g., one in a regular election and the other simultaneously to fill the seat of a senator who resigned), the one who is sworn in first is senior.

There is no mandated difference in rights or power, although Senate rules give more power to senators with more seniority. Generally, senior senators will have more power, though being a member of the majority party is more advantageous than being senior. In addition, by custom the senior senators from the president's party control federal patronage appointments in their states. Thus being the junior senator is disadvantageous if the senior one is from the same party.

Some of the perquisites of seniority offered by the U.S. Senate:

Senators are given preferential treatment for committee assignments based on seniority. Although the committee chairmanship is an elected position, it is traditionally given to the most senior senator of the majority party serving on the committee. Ranking member (called Vice-Chairman in some select committees) of a committee is the most senior member of the minority party thereon.

Greater seniority enables a senator to choose a desk closer to the front of the Senate Chamber.

Traditionally, seniority brings with it greater clout. As a result of this, it is fairly difficult for the more junior members of both houses of Congress to have a significant impact on policy. Notable exceptions to this include Lyndon B. Johnson (elected in 1948), who was junior to Thomas T. Connally (elected in 1928); Joseph McCarthy (elected to Senate in 1946), who was junior to Alexander Wiley (elected to Senate in 1938); and Trent Lott (elected 1988), who was junior to Thad Cochran (elected 1978).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_senator

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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2008, 06:55:35 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on October 19, 2008, 06:45:39 PM
Title, assignments, power.    A lot comes with the title.  I don't usually refer to wikipedia, but it was a the first hit on google so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_senator



I figured seniority would get you the committee assignments that you wanted.  but I had no idea it would get you a desk closer to the front.  no wonder kerry always looks so frustrated.  no wait, that would be because he is married to a drunken witch.
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2008, 06:57:03 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 19, 2008, 06:15:36 PM
I don't think there's that huge a difference between being the SR senator from a state and being the JR senator from a state.

You're looking at it from a normal person point of view. If you has Skerry's ego I think you would see things differently.

He would be the 1st secstate since Condi - I don't think that's a person that he wants to be compared to.
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Re: The Next Administration: Obama (Secretary of State John Kerry?)
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008, 07:01:21 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on October 19, 2008, 04:37:43 PM
Kerry - SecState

Powell - SecDef

Jerry Brown - AG

Gorelick - FBI

Berger - NSC

Carter - UN Ambassador

Halloween is coming so you are trying to scare the crap out of us right? This is just one big nightmare.

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