A Fist Full Of War Bouncy...

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LiberalHeart  (1000+ posts)     Sun Oct-05-08 01:03 PM
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Overheard at the grocery store yesterday (a great put down)....
Two young ladies (late teens, early twenties) were working the checkout line -- one as cashier, the other as a bagger. They were talking about their support for the war in Iraq and bad-mouthing the nasty liberals who just don't realize how important it is that we be there "fighting for freedom."

A man who'd been waiting quietly in line finally had enough. He said, "I am guessing you ladies are Republicans."

They told him they were.

He said, "I have a question, then. Why aren't you in uniform?"

They sputtered something back at him but they were speaking at the same time and I couldn't make out what they were saying. Then the guy said, "I'm just asking because you seem to be healthy and able and I was wondering why, if you support the war, you aren't there."

Again, they sputtered in unison so I don't know what they said, but he said, "As I said, I'm just asking."

I left the store then, so I don't know how the little drama ended

gopbuster (295 posts)      Sun Oct-05-08 01:14 PM
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4. He had a good head on his shoulders. The worst one for me was...
 I was working for a father and son team, religious fundamentalist. The son was about 19 and getting ready for in his first year of school at Oral Roberts. Everyday I would come to work I would make it a point to mention that I was going to print out his enlistment papers off of the internet and bring them for him to sign up. His course of study was to become a youth pastor. Finally one day after confronting him he says to me "I believe God calls certain people to fight in his wars and it is not my calling"

I swear, I thought my jaw was going to drop off of my face. All I could do is say...Ohhhhh, Ahhhhhh. I see, shake my head and walk away.

I didn't work too much longer for them as work started slowing down, but it was tough listening to their BS.

TreasonousBastard  (1000+ posts)      Sun Oct-05-08 01:35 PM
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5. Ha! He gotcha! He's oh, so wrong, of course, but... 
 when we liberals gloat over our unassailable logic we tend to forget the other side has unassailable logic, too. In slightly different form, that logic even fits into good ol' pacifist Quaker teachings.

It's not logic that's the problem, it's fundamental beliefs and starting points on both sides that are incompatable.

(btw, I always have a supply of enlistment forms, too-- sometimes it shuts them up)

LiberalHeart  (1000+ posts)     Sun Oct-05-08 02:11 PM
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7. I wonder if we're mostly a product of our upbringing.. Sarah was listening to Biden in 2nd grade....
...but I was arguing with another kid about Adlai Stevenson when I was in second grade. I remember that argument like it was yesterday, but it was a lifetime ago. There's no way I would have been following any news re the election when I was that young (I didn't start watching news until Kennedy was shot), so I'm thinking I was brought up in a home where politics were a frequent topic. No other way I would have known Stevenson's name. My mom was a flaming liberal until she discovered Glenn Beck. Now I barely recognize her. My dad always struck me as a conservative in everything but social issues. I remember his spending hours redialing the phone just so he could phone in his vote for a poll our newspaper was running re abortion (he was for it). He kept getting a busy signal but he kept at it for hours.

roguevalley  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-05-08 06:36 PM
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10. God don't need people with yellow stripes up their backsides, 
 the ****ers. I think I would have punched him in the face.

bertman  (1000+ posts)       Mon Oct-06-08 10:58 AM
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16. You really don't need enlistment papers to put the WarMongers in the hot seat.
 Just ask them why they haven't signed up, just like the young man in the supermarket did.

There's always the usual dodge: "I have a family (sick mom, wife, old feeble dog) to take care of." To which you reply: "Well, many of our troops have left their families and friends at home so they can fight in Iraq (Afghanistan). If you are so worried about Muslim extremists taking over the world, shouldn't you be there fighting them too--so we don't have to fight them here?"

I'm still trying to come up with a good response to the alternate dodge: "I can't enlist because I have a bad back (ingrown toenail, halitosis, brain damage, flat feet)."

Maybe someone could help me with this.

[Airwolf]

If the op was so against the war why isn't;t he over there with an AK trying to help the poor oppressed Iraqis? It works both ways asshat.

[franksolich]

If the op was so against the war why isn't;t he over there with an AK trying to help the poor oppressed Iraqis? It works both ways asshat.

Another way it works is with the War on Poverty, which the primitives endorse.

You know, that 44-year-old quagmire with no light at the end of the tunnel, the War on Poverty.

Why aren't the primitives enlisted in the War on Poverty?

Every day on Skins's island one reads comments by primitives boasting of acquiring this new toy or that new toy, or complaining of their investment porfolios, or describing their real-estate.  Every day.

It's a difficult figure to compute, but apparently the "average" private wealth (globally, because the primitives are "global" citizens) is circa $167 per capita.

If the primitives were sincere about the War on Poverty, the primitives would enlist.....truncating all but circa $167 of their wealth--their automobiles, their computers, their real-estate, their porfolios, their televisions and other appliances, their furniture, their clothes, their groceries, their pharmaceuticals, &c., &c., &c.--subtracting all but $167 of their personal wealth, and giving the surplus to those who have less.

Why aren't the primitives enlisted in the War on Poverty?

[USA4ME]

LiberalHeart
 
Two young ladies (late teens, early twenties) were working the checkout line -- one as cashier, the other as a bagger.  They were talking about their support for the war ...

I worked for grocery stores during HS and college and I lost count of how many female cashiers in the 18-22 year old range would talk politics at work. 

LiberalHeart

My dad always struck me as a conservative in everything but social issues. I remember his spending hours redialing the phone just so he could phone in his vote for a poll our newspaper was running re abortion (he was for it). He kept getting a busy signal but he kept at it for hours.

If only Dad had been "for it" when it came to you the world would be a better place.

.

[HACKSAW]

TreasonousBastard  (1000+ posts)      Sun Oct-05-08 01:35 PM
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5. Ha! He gotcha! He's oh, so wrong, of course, but... 
 when we liberals gloat over our unassailable logic we tend to forget the other side has unassailable logic, too. In slightly different form, that logic even fits into good ol' pacifist Quaker teachings.

It's not logic that's the problem, it's fundamental beliefs and starting points on both sides that are incompatable.

(btw, I always have a supply of enlistment forms, too-- sometimes it shuts them up)

I always carry a DD Form 2 (military ID card) with me at all times, DUmbass!

Why don't these assholes ever pull this shit with me? Oh yeah.... I remember why....

[Airwolf]

Remember what Frank says about DUmmies.

[TheSarge]

I always carry a DD Form 2 (military ID card) with me at all times, DUmbass!

Why don't these assholes ever pull this shit with me? Oh yeah.... I remember why....

I actually had a Libtard at that site that pretends to be "Neutral" pull that shit with me.

He actually got told to shut up and apologize by a couple of his Libtard brethren there.

Sadly for him he did neither.


But still it amazes me how utterly clueless the DUmmies seem to be about the concept of an ALL VOLUNTEER FORCE...and how ignorant their arguement is about "well if you support the war why don't you sign up".

[DumbAss Tanker]

If you had to serve to have a legitimate opinion about war, the only thing going into Hitler's Germany by air from FDR would've been airmailed Christmas cards, instead of the Eighth Air Force.

[Chris_]

I actually had a Libtard at that site that pretends to be "Neutral" pull that shit with me.

He actually got told to shut up and apologize by a couple of his Libtard brethren there.

Sadly for him he did neither.


But still it amazes me how utterly clueless the DUmmies seem to be about the concept of an ALL VOLUNTEER FORCE...and how ignorant their arguement is about "well if you support the war why don't you sign up".

Their military knowledge could fill a thimble without overflowing.

[LC EFA]

I've never encountered people like this, either the "republican checkout operator" OR the in-your-face libtard.

Most of the time the people that I "mark" as libtards are runty, shifty eyed hunchbacks that can't look you in the eye let alone converse with you.

Be that as it may, I'd like to point out to them a couple of small things :

1) That by their logic they have no right to comment about pretty much anything, because they are not presently doing it and never likely to do it. This would include commentary on how good or bad a job the present national leadership is doing at running the country.

2) Exactly the sort of state it is where persons not actively serving in the Armed Forces are disallowed an opinion on the situations where and under what conditions that force may or may not be deployed.

[PatriotGame]

He said, "I have a question, then. Why aren't you in uniform?"

They sputtered something back at him but they were speaking at the same time and I couldn't make out what they were saying. Then the guy said, "I'm just asking because you seem to be healthy and able and I was wondering why, if you support the war, you aren't there."

Tell me asshat, do you support the police or fire department?
If so then why are you not out chasing rapists and putting out house fires?
Do you suppose a person can support the war and not have to force your inbred anarchist spawn into combat?

[Duke Nukum]

I always wonder why America-hating DUmmies don't join Al Qaeda.

[TheSarge]

I always wonder why America-hating DUmmies don't join Al Qaeda.

No courage behind their convictions.

[DarkHalo]

I too had some self important jackass ask me that same question no doubt thinking it would put me in my place. However he wasnt quite so smug when I answered that "I am in fact a USAF veteran, my father was Army in the Korean war, my oldest son was Army and my step son is active duty Navy. Now tell me how much YOU and YOUR family have done to protect this great country?" The sputtering is on the other foot then (mixed metaphors intentional).

[delilahmused]

So, I was at the grocery store today picking up fruit and veggies. The checkout clerk and box girl and I made small talk about what fruit is in season, the high cost of food, you know, the basic lighthearted pleasantries one makes with strangers. The clerk asked me if I wanted to round up to the nearest dollar and donate to breast cancer research, handed me my receipt and told me I got my 10 cents a gallon fuel discount. The box girl asked me if I wanted help with my groceries...I said no, thanked them and left. I have no clue whether either of them served in the military, has family serving, who they're voting for, or whether they like glazed donuts. Maybe they discuss this kind of thing in the break room but at the checkout counter, unlike the places DUmmies seem to shop at, they tend to be focused on the customer.

Cindie