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Offline SaintLouieWoman

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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2008, 09:17:06 AM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on October 05, 2008, 11:30:47 PM
There is also another claim that he became and indonesian citizen.  When his father signed him up for public school, by law of the country, you must be a citizen.  When he came back to the US, he was 10 and unable to apply for citizenship without parental consent, and his mother was still in Indonesia.  Berg is alleging that he never re-applied for US citizenship, making him an illegal resident :lmao:

I read the court paperwork, it's very interesting indeed. :-)

No wonder the dems are nervous. Hope this has legs. How perfect---the dems running an illegal for pres.  :-)
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2008, 09:28:54 AM »
Quote from: SaintLouieWoman on October 06, 2008, 09:17:06 AM
No wonder the dems are nervous. Hope this has legs. How perfect---the dems running an illegal for pres.  :-)

not that they would care....
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2008, 09:40:38 AM »
It all boils down to this:  IF the Omessiah has nothing to hide, and is 'transparent' like he preaches...showing the birth certificate would stop all of this immediately.  Being as he will not, and has hired attorneys to help cover his ass....makes it quite plain he has SOMETHING TO HIDE.

I speculate it is one or more of several things:
1)  He was not born in the US
2)  It lists his race as White (being born to a single white mother, this is not a stretch)
3)  It lists religion as Muslim
4)  It lists no father
5)  His name is really Barry Dunham
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2008, 10:26:08 AM »
Is the MSM ever going to dig into this court case?
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2008, 10:57:51 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on October 06, 2008, 10:26:08 AM
Is the MSM ever going to dig into this court case?

 :rotf: :lmao:
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2008, 11:12:06 AM »
Quote from: lizard on October 06, 2008, 09:40:38 AM
It all boils down to this:  IF the Omessiah has nothing to hide, and is 'transparent' like he preaches...showing the birth certificate would stop all of this immediately.  Being as he will not, and has hired attorneys to help cover his ass....makes it quite plain he has SOMETHING TO HIDE.

I speculate it is one or more of several things:
1)  He was not born in the US
2)  It lists his race as White (being born to a single white mother, this is not a stretch)
3)  It lists religion as Muslim
4)  It lists no father
5)  His name is really Barry Dunham

You know if he changed his name Barrack Hussein Obama then that alone makes him unfit to be president.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2008, 11:29:09 AM »
Guys,

Please don't put any credence in this. The order at the link is NOT signed. It isn't an order it's an "exemplar", what the plaintiff is suggesting the judge should sign. Please note the recitation of plaintiff's standings, reasonable relief, relevant statutes and allegations. Judges don't need those when they sign orders; they have been re-provided by the plaintiff to remind the judge of his grounds.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2008, 11:36:48 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on October 06, 2008, 11:29:09 AM
Guys,

Please don't put any credence in this. The order at the link is NOT signed. It isn't an order it's an "exemplar", what the plaintiff is suggesting the judge should sign. Please note the recitation of plaintiff's standings, reasonable relief, relevant statutes and allegations. Judges don't need those when they sign orders; they have been re-provided by the plaintiff to remind the judge of his grounds.

They usually sign one or the other, and he is going to sign one of them.    Just waiting it out.     :popcorn:
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2008, 11:51:32 AM »
Quote from: formerlurker on October 06, 2008, 11:36:48 AM
They usually sign one or the other, and he is going to sign one of them.    Just waiting it out.     :popcorn:
Well, that's a far cry from what the thread title would lead us to believe.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2008, 02:02:52 PM »
Quote from: Schadenfreude on October 03, 2008, 06:59:16 PM
I would love to know how long can Obama not comply with the law before his ass is hauled off to jail for contempt of court.

I am beginning to think that the legal system is collapsing before our eyes.
As long as it takes to produce a forged AUTHENTIC birth certificate that is beyond reproach.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2008, 02:05:53 PM »
Quote from: PatriotGame on October 06, 2008, 02:02:52 PM
As long as it takes to produce a forged AUTHENTIC birth certificate that is beyond reproach.

He has to have somebody in his campaign who provides fake IDs for his Illegal Alien constituency.  Surely, it can't take him that long.  If it'll fool the immigration/deportation courts, it has to be good enough for the US District Court in Pennsylvania.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2008, 02:13:26 PM »
Quote from: PatriotGame on October 06, 2008, 02:02:52 PM
As long as it takes to produce a forged AUTHENTIC birth certificate that is beyond reproach.

Id say that it would be nearly impossible, as too much time has gone by. Paper weight, thickness and chemical composition would need to be taken into account, along with moisture and acid content. The way paper is made has changed a great deal since then, So, unless someone has an authentic unused sheet from that period, it would be nearly impossible. The same is true with ink.

Then it would need to be artificially aged.

Far too much work to forge an old document that will get heavily scrutinized since it was printed. The best Obama can hope for is a record-destroying fire, or more likely ,a past record destroying fire to blame it on. Just calling it "Lost" or a "well timed catastrophe" would just add fuel to the fire.

But we need to wait -- there is still no order, And I suspect there wont be one for at least a month and a half.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2008, 03:40:27 PM »
Quote from: miskie on October 06, 2008, 02:13:26 PM
Id say that it would be nearly impossible, as too much time has gone by. Paper weight, thickness and chemical composition would need to be taken into account, along with moisture and acid content. The way paper is made has changed a great deal since then, So, unless someone has an authentic unused sheet from that period, it would be nearly impossible. The same is true with ink.

Then it would need to be artificially aged.

Far too much work to forge an old document that will get heavily scrutinized since it was printed. The best Obama can hope for is a record-destroying fire, or more likely ,a past record destroying fire to blame it on. Just calling it "Lost" or a "well timed catastrophe" would just add fuel to the fire.
But we need to wait -- there is still no order, And I suspect there wont be one for at least a month and a half.

Too late for that..he stated it's in his "vault" :whatever:
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2008, 03:49:08 PM »
I for the life of me just can't see an upside to team Nobama dragging this out.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2008, 03:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on October 06, 2008, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: miskie on October 06, 2008, 02:13:26 PM
Id say that it would be nearly impossible, as too much time has gone by. Paper weight, thickness and chemical composition would need to be taken into account, along with moisture and acid content. The way paper is made has changed a great deal since then, So, unless someone has an authentic unused sheet from that period, it would be nearly impossible. The same is true with ink.

Then it would need to be artificially aged.

Far too much work to forge an old document that will get heavily scrutinized since it was printed. The best Obama can hope for is a record-destroying fire, or more likely ,a past record destroying fire to blame it on. Just calling it "Lost" or a "well timed catastrophe" would just add fuel to the fire.

But we need to wait -- there is still no order, And I suspect there wont be one for at least a month and a half.
Too late for that..he stated it's in his "vault" :whatever:

Hmmm.  A vault you say?  In Chicago, I'm guessing....

Where's Jerry Rivers when you need him?  :thatsright:
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #65 on: October 06, 2008, 04:01:35 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on October 06, 2008, 03:49:08 PM
I for the life of me just can't see an upside to team Nobama dragging this out.

Unless the truth is worse. :-)
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #66 on: October 06, 2008, 04:09:06 PM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on October 06, 2008, 04:01:35 PM
Unless the truth is worse. :-)

That's just it. I can imagine a downside but no upside. Makes it worse to drag out shoots the hell out of whoops would you look at thet and put's it smack dab in the realm of Fraud.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #67 on: October 06, 2008, 04:10:55 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on October 06, 2008, 03:49:08 PM
I for the life of me just can't see an upside to team Nobama dragging this out.

Oh there is -- when he reluctantly pulls out a perfectly acceptable document, he cries "racist witch-hunt" and gets more votes out of it.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #68 on: October 06, 2008, 04:14:21 PM »
Quote from: miskie on October 06, 2008, 04:10:55 PM
Oh there is -- when he reluctantly pulls out a perfectly acceptable document, he cries "racist witch-hunt" and gets more votes out of it.

Naw actually I think that would piss more folks off . To Petty & contrived an action for someone aspiring to be elected to the highest office in the nation. The folks to cop a nut about it are already in the bag for Nobama.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #69 on: October 06, 2008, 04:16:59 PM »
Quote from: miskie on October 06, 2008, 04:10:55 PM
Oh there is -- when he reluctantly pulls out a perfectly acceptable document, he cries "racist witch-hunt" and gets more votes out of it.

Except - once again - we get back to the fact that it's a HILLARY(2012) supporter that's launched this, and not a "racist rethug".  His making that cry - again - would further solidify the McCain voter block who're tired of being called racists everytime they fart.  It might shake some PUMAs off the fence but he has no idea where those dislodged PUMAs would fall - they could just as readily fall into the "tired of being called a racist" McCain camp as they could his.  All it seems it would really do is give the mindless masses already supporting him a little reach around as they come down the final stretch.
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Re: Federal judge orders Nobama to produce birth cert. in 3 days
« Reply #70 on: October 06, 2008, 11:09:11 PM »
Be cool to see his Indonesian citizenship papers.   If they exist.
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