subway cat a Constitution remaker

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4109384

Oh my.

Actually, most of the bonfire about's whether or not Yugo Chavez is a dictator, but Doug's ex-wife doesn't show up for it.

El Pinko  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 02:23 AM
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Chavez says crisis-hit U.S. needs new constitution

no point in copying-and-pasting the rest of the comment; it's a news article

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 02:35 AM
Response to Reply #2

4. Corporate personhood is a CLERICAL ERROR made into some kind of legal fiction people think is real.

What is this primitive hang-up with "corporate personhood"?

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 02:34 AM
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3. Chavez is not a dictator.
   
Capitalists lie.because they fear poverty and fear equality even more.

We could use someone like Chavez Here,actually we need someone who is like him here, desperately.

The reality is that the revolution has been at its core a democratic one, driven by mass popular political participation of a kind that should put us in the West to shame. As Brazilian President Lula da Silva (one of the “moderates”) recently put it,

“You can invent anything you want to criticise Chavez, but not for lack of democracy.”

blahblahblahblahbleah

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #27

30. Chavez has given AMERICANS who are too poor to buy oil from American greedy companies oil to survive the winter.Either gave it away or charged drastically less than us greed does.Rich corporate pigs do not care about poor people,they just want to use their labor and suck the life out of them,than toss them away to die.

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 02:52 AM
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7. the Constitution needs a few changes
   
A inviolate wall of separation between church, corporate and state,

Churches must be taxed to limit their power.

Corporations must be taxed cannot outsource jobs out of the United states, must submit to the general welfare and the will of the people or all assets of corporation and Ceo will be liquidated to the people..

All taxes MUST be progressive.

Individual and familial wealth must be limited.

Gays are equal citizens and allowed to marry

Women are equal citizens and get equal pay for equal work.

Loiter laws are deemed unconstitutional as long as people are left homeless.

All citizens have a RIGHT to nutritious food,clean water,health care,decent shelter, and public transport.

Just a start..

The constitution has been changed before, like women's right to vote,blacks cannot be chattel slaves etc.A "living document" can change with the times and needs of the people.

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 03:02 AM
Response to Reply #9

11. YES and I'll add a bit more to that...idea...
   
The supreme court, any other branch of government be it the executive,judicial or legislative branches, any agency of the government,any corporation or any other private or public entity cannot at any time, in any situation elect a president,senator or other government official,interfere in ANY election process,tamper with votes, or override the will of the people in their choices concerning the outcomes of local,state or national elections.

Howz That?

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #22

28. Myth
   
people with excessive wealth buy our government and take it away from the people. It is what is going on right now.Excessive wealth concentrated in a few hands creates poverty.Do you like class war? Inequality,crime? Do you think these rich pigs help US all that much,do you find happiness being a cog in their monopolies?

If so, I can see why you believe in such horrible injustices.

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 03:26 AM
Response to Reply #12

17. I agree with you
   
It was written for the rich by the rich with a few democratic bones thrown in ripped off from the Indians conduct codes.

Back than non-land holders were not even full persons nor women or blacks or Native Americans.That tells you something right there about the nature of the flaws.

Some of those things have been updated,but not enough,and some things in the constitution must be removed for it serves ogliarchy.

undergroundpanther  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #8

10. The constitution needs to be revised
   
Corporate robber barons MUST be restrained.The constitution does not have the language in it to restrain them...yet.

The constitution has been revised and changed several times.We need to do that again.

franksolich's suggestion for a Constitutional amendment: "He who does not work, does not eat."

Since that's right out of Vladimir Lenin, surely the subway cat would approve.

And finally, a really big Fat Che plops into the punchbowl:

BlooInBloo  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 03:16 AM
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15. It's funny watching people who know nothing about the Constitution....
   
both here and abroad, talk about the Constitution.

[GOBUCKS]

BlooInBloo  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-28-08 03:16 AM
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15. It's funny watching people who know nothing about the Constitution....
both here and abroad, talk about the Constitution.

I wonder if DUmmy BlooInBloo enjoys the same immunity from granite as OMC.
Maybe he offsets posts like this with others of more conventional moronic content

[Carl]

Corporations must be taxed cannot outsource jobs out of the United states, must submit to the general welfare and the will of the people or all assets of corporation and Ceo will be liquidated to the people..

Do none of them understand that assets are only valuable and considered wealth if they have a market value.
If you tax a company or hold a knife to its throat demanding it is not profitable then it no longer has a market value and has no liquidable wealth.

[franksolich]

Corporations must be taxed cannot outsource jobs out of the United states, must submit to the general welfare and the will of the people or all assets of corporation and Ceo will be liquidated to the people..

Do none of them understand that assets are only valuable and considered wealth if they have a market value.
If you tax a company or hold a knife to its throat demanding it is not profitable then it no longer has a market value and has no liquidable wealth.

Oh, Carl, sir, that's too complicated for the primitives to understand.

Remember, the primitives are smarter than decent and civilized people are.

[comradebillyboy]

good thing its so difficult to amend the constitution

[Chris_]

good thing its so difficult to amend the constitution

The UP amendment to the U.S. Constitution (before you laugh, this is also the messi-uh's desire):

Everyone in the USA, no matter if they are a citizen or not, can have as much of everything as they want (including and especially quality housing, health care, food, booze, drugs, friends) irrespective of how much or, more importantly, how little effort they put forward.

The price for this is one vote per person, citizen or not, living or not.

[JohnnyReb]

"The will of the people"

I, for one, am glad this country isn't run by "The will of the people".



....at least DUmmie people.