What is your opinion of the psychology behind wanting to be a multi-millionaire?

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RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:36 PM
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What is your opinion of the psychology behind wanting to be a multi-millionaire?

or billionaire or whatever numerical term you like...

I call it a "mental illness", but I have been castigated about using that term. What I mean when I say it is: to desire so much wealth when we all know that, by hook or crook, it comes from the sweat and blood of those less fortunate seems to me to be borderline sociopathic or narcissistic or SOMETHING!

Most people I know just want to feel a bit of security and do not mind working their entire lives to establish that.

I do realize that, to some, my manufactured home on .1 acres - a stone's throw from the railroad tracks with water, electricity, heat and internet - is wealth and is too much.

Does anyone else find that those who desire so so much are repulsive? "Mentally Ill"? I am concerned because it seems these same people are the only ones whose time is liberated to the point that they can run for major office.

grannie4peace  (1000+ posts)       Sun Sep-28-08 07:40 PM
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2. i agree with you 
 i have never understood how a person could want large amounts of money

 

RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:42 PM
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5. So what is your opinion of someone who desires and works for such a fortune?

 
 

Tandalayo_Scheisskopf  (1000+ posts)       Sun Sep-28-08 07:44 PM
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6. These days?
 Pretty self-destructive. We are entering an era, in the US, where the well-to-do are gonna be walking on eggshells, because a lot of folks have pretty understandable grievances with the wealthy class. Their manifold offenses against the nation have been laid quite bare for all to see and people are right on the edge. The next decade is going to be very uncomfortable for them. Those who live ostentatiously will not be loving life and their fellow man will not be loving them back.

Times of a great societal shift await us. The wind has been sown and harvest time of the whirlwind is nearly upon us.

 

RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:48 PM
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8. I agree. I am not "pro-depression" but I see the opportunities it affords many who have become
 gridlocked into poverty.

Seismic changes always result in unexpected opportunities. I love the "potential energy" of that. 

hlthe2b  (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:51 PM
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11. There are some that have it as a goal, less for self-benefit, than
 the challenge of accomplishment. Some not only take the challenge as desirable, but go into it thinking about what they might do with the money to improve the world in which they live.

And then there are the REPUG millionaire/billionaires--- narcissicm, a need to feel superior and to become powerful over others and selfishness drive them....


That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it....

OPERATIONMINDCRIME  (1000+ posts)       Sun Sep-28-08 09:31 PM
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29. They're Called Human, And Entitled To Their Opinion And Desires As Much As You.
 They are in no way any more mentally ill than any other group, middle class lower class or otherwise. The theory is just plain dumb on its face.

And yes; because you do have far more than so many others in the world, wealth is absolutely relative and you are guilty of the same to probably billions of people on a different scale. So therefore; as you well know, you are in fact being a hypocrite with your labeling

 

 

[Carl]

Tandalayo_Scheisskopf  (1000+ posts)       Sun Sep-28-08 07:44 PM
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6. These days?
 Pretty self-destructive. We are entering an era, in the US, where the well-to-do are gonna be walking on eggshells, because a lot of folks have pretty understandable grievances with the wealthy class. Their manifold offenses against the nation have been laid quite bare for all to see and people are right on the edge. The next decade is going to be very uncomfortable for them. Those who live ostentatiously will not be loving life and their fellow man will not be loving them back.

Times of a great societal shift await us. The wind has been sown and harvest time of the whirlwind is nearly upon us.

 

[Vagabond]

Tandalayo_Scheisskopf  (1000+ posts)       Sun Sep-28-08 07:44 PM
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6. These days?
 Pretty self-destructive. We are entering an era, in the US, where the well-to-do are gonna be walking on eggshells, because a lot of folks have pretty understandable grievances with the wealthy class. Their manifold offenses against the nation have been laid quite bare for all to see and people are right on the edge. The next decade is going to be very uncomfortable for them. Those who live ostentatiously will not be loving life and their fellow man will not be loving them back.

Times of a great societal shift await us. The wind has been sown and harvest time of the whirlwind is nearly upon us.

  What would that be exactly?  Do you like your welfare check, DUmmie?  Thank an evil rich person.  Do you like your road, DUmmie?  Thank an evil oil comapny. Do you like your sidewalk, DUmmie?  You do know that was an evil construction company, right?  Do you like doing mostly whatever you want and not being held to account, DUmmie?  Well, not only should you thank your evil mommy, you should thank all those evil rich people with insurance from evil health insurance companies that pay into a million government programs so you can play with social diseases and OD on drugs and still get medical care.

RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:48 PM
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8. I agree. I am not "pro-depression" but I see the opportunities it affords many who have become
 gridlocked into poverty.

Seismic changes always result in unexpected opportunities. I love the "potential energy" of that. 

Like what?  The chance to eat out of a garbage can?  The chance to tape up your shoes and fish clothes out of a dumpster?  The chance to make Daddy leave so Mommy and the kids can get a meal from Uncle Sam?  The chance to stand in a 1000 person line, to apply for one position?  The chance to labor in pig styes and cattle yards and fields and orchards hoping to make enough to eat that night?  No, DUmmie.  Depressions are by there very nature a lack of oppurtunity.

Those two posts just hit me as the most stupid in a sea of stupid.

[GOBUCKS]

This is a long, long thread, oozing with class envy and hatred. What struck me is that in discussing "the psychology behind wanting to be a multi-millionaire", nearly all the DUmmies are only able to discuss "spending". Only a few have any concept of "earning", or "accomplishment", or "success", or, for that matter, "work". They only think about spending. I think this is a pretty strong indicator of why most DUmmies will always live in grinding poverty.

This DUmmy has a different idea:

RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:48 PM
8. I agree. I am not "pro-depression" but I see the opportunities it affords many who have become
gridlocked into poverty.
Seismic changes always result in unexpected opportunities. I love the "potential energy" of that.  

He's clearly looking for the chance to do some looting.

[franksolich]

I noticed a peculiar phenomenon at this particular bonfire on Skins's island.

All the primitives had green eyes.

[Traveshamockery]

The dummies fail to realize that there are so many millionaires or billionaires who live well beneath their means so no one knows the extent of their wealth.  The dummies just don't realize that wealth is not about showing off, it's about providing a sense of security for themselves and their families, not about buying the latest and greatest car or house or gadget.  It's all a mindset and it seems that a lot of the dummies just don't have that mindset. 

[comradebillyboy]

  living beneath one's means entails saving and investing, activities that usually insure  future comfort and security even for those of us who are not wealthy. After being frugal all my life, I definitely would love to have a few hundred million to play with.

[LC EFA]

RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:48 PM
8. I agree. I am not "pro-depression" but I see the opportunities it affords many who have become
gridlocked into poverty.
Seismic changes always result in unexpected opportunities. I love the "potential energy" of that. 

Unfortunately I don't think he means "those people will realize the dole payment is NOT going to arrive and that persuades them to actually get off their ass and work...."

That they're "gridlocked into poverty" already implies they're too useless to work if their life depended on it.

[TheSarge]

RadiationTherapy (1000+ posts)      Sun Sep-28-08 07:36 PM
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What is your opinion of the psychology behind wanting to be a multi-millionaire?

or billionaire or whatever numerical term you like...

It's called wanting to be successful...having motivation and a desire to achieve...oh yeah and the want and desire to provide the absolutely best life for your family that you possibly can.

I call it a "mental illness"

Sounds like what someone would say who's so unmotivated to do anything in life that they can barely muster the drive to get off the couch to go pee during re-runs of Springer.

[jtyangel]

It's 'potential energy' is destructive. Not all 'potential energy' is meant to be realized. The funny thing is he/she seems to think the 'little guy' would be better off during/after a depression, but it is the 'little guy' who doesn't have the resources to steer away from some serious woes during events like that. Does he really think the 'rich' will hurt? While they might not be buying a new house during that time, they will still live relatively comfortably by the standards of most of the nation. "Potential energy"--I can almost see him cackling at the possibilities. 

[Red October]

And exactly who will provide the jobs and make the economy run in this new world where the wealthy will be "walking on eggshells?"

[TheSarge]

And exactly who will provide the jobs and make the economy run in this new world where the wealthy will be "walking on eggshells?"

Why the Government of course.

The years of brainwashing people into thinking the ONLY way they can have anything is through the generosity of the Federal Government is beginning to rear it's ugly head.

[JohnnyReb]

You have to warp your brain a little to wrap your thinking process around this to think like a DUmmie. "My nieghbor has one. I want one. I deserve one. The world owes me one."

On second thought, don't try to think like a DUmmie. You might hurt yourself.

[terry]

I think many of the wealthy, didn't necessarily set out with a goal of wealth.  They set out with a goal of creating a business or working at something they love to do.   They worked hard and did extraordinarily well and the money came with that.

I think some of folks on DU want to be multi millionaires more than some of the multi millionaires wanted it.

[Lord Undies]

In the Little Goon's defense, I have always thought the billionairess Oprah Winfrey was mentally ill.

[Red October]

In the Little Goon's defense, I have always thought the billionairess Oprah Winfrey was mentally ill.

When the left cries about the "evil rich," it's strange that they don't realize exactly how many Democrat heavyweights that includes.  Oprah, Soros, the Hollywood limo-libs... they ain't exactly working class heros. 

[jinxmchue]

2:1 most DUmp monkeys play the lottery every week hoping to win it big.  It's only wrong to become a multi-millionaire by earning it through a lifetime of work.

[CharlesD]

So I should just shut down my business right now and go back to punching a time clock, right when I'm on the verge of needing to hire a couple more people.  Of course if Barack gets in, I might not be able to afford to hire those couple extra people, so maybe I'd better wait a month to make that decision.   

[jukin]

I think the fact that DUmpmonkies don't work is a great factor in their belief that people on their way up the ladder of success work very hard to dot that.  For me it was 70-90 hours a week. Making up for employees that would not show up when a machine needed to ship so I could make payroll but always showed up to get their paycheck.  It was my ingenuity and marketing skills that made the business not some guy turning a wrench that built the business. Also I had two ventures that I barely got out of with my original investment and one I didn't get my investment out. 

[Zeus]

Work for the money. Play your cards right and one day that money works for you.

What the dummies don't understand is that money while hopefully providing further largess to the holder it may also provide opportunities for someone looking to improve their lot.

[JohnnyReb]

I think the fact that DUmpmonkies don't work is a great factor in their belief that people on their way up the ladder of success work very hard to dot that.  For me it was 70-90 hours a week. Making up for employees that would not show up when a machine needed to ship so I could make payroll but always showed up to get their paycheck.  It was my ingenuity and marketing skills that made the business not some guy turning a wrench that built the business. Also I had two ventures that I barely got out of with my original investment and one I didn't get my investment out. 

Been there done that.......and had several years when the hired help work half the hours I did and made twice the money.....but I was/am an evil, slave driving, rich man........



GET OFF YOUR ASSES, DUMMIES.

[Chris_]

2:1 most DUmp monkeys play the lottery every week hoping to win it big.  It's only wrong to become a multi-millionaire by earning it through a lifetime of work.

It is their retirement plan.

[Chris_]

At this point, it probably would give them a better return of/on investment than playing Russian Roulette in the stock market these days.

[BlueStateSaint]

At this point, it probably would give them a better return of/on investment than playing Russian Roulette in the stock market these days.

I pulled my (comparatively) measley NYS Deferred Comp out of the mutuals it was in, and into an account called "Stable Income," the second week of July.  I took a shot before I did that, but it's been there, making 4.35%, ever since.  Yeah, it isn't making a whole heluva lot, but it's not losing money, which is almost the same thing right now.  A friend of mine from the lab, where I used to work, was pissed that I hadn't told her about it (I think I actually did, when I did it), but she moved some of her DC into it.  She's got some cash still in mutuals.  She's losing her shirt (which, if you ever got a look at her, is a good thing--she's a very pretty woman) on them.  I'll have to "suggest" that she put more into said account.