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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-23-08 09:47 PMOriginal messageThis is ILLEGAL: 1st Brigade Army Combat Team to begin US tour on Oct 1 Advertisements [?]Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 09:49 PM by eowyn_of_rohanThis has been posted elsewhere on this site, mostly buried in other threads. I feel it deserves its own thread. This issue is huge, and frightening, yet is getting hardly any attention. To use the Army forces on U.S. soil in this way is illegal.Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1385For those who are unfamiliar with what they are planning for October 1, 2008:ARMY TIMEShttp://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090... /.Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 13rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active ArmyBy Gina Cavallaro - Staff writerPosted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDTThe 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys. Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terroristIt is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,†said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.â€...They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack....The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,†1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.â€The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets....The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced “sea-smurfâ€).“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,†said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.â€...Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved....“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,†Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.â€
avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-23-08 09:50 PMResponse to Original message1. Do you think this force is being sent here because the Bush admin is planning to steal our money for Wall Street? Or is it because they plan on not having an electionor stealing the election and they know people are going to be really pissed off.
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-23-08 11:39 PMResponse to Reply #2231. I wrote unknown news about operation garden plot. It couldn't be verified. But what they are doing with the military,sounds like it.Garden plot done under a different name still means the same damn thing..kiss freedom goodbye.
clear eye (523 posts) Wed Sep-24-08 03:04 AMResponse to Reply #5059. I don't believe the trigger will be pulled until Obama is President Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 03:48 AM by clear eyeand the new dictator will be Pailin with Cheney/Rove over her shoulder, and Big Oil money bankrolling it and getting all the loot in return. This is probably a response to what much of Big Oil sees as the potentially fatal threat of the Green Revolution. They just won't go down w/o a fight, and these guys have lots of weapons to fight with, including, apparently, the ability to set in motion the destruction of the U.S. economy.On edit: Remember Cheney is commissioning and promoting these laws, and he has no loyalty to Bush. Many DUers have commented that Cheney and Rove are not behaving as though they think they're leaving power.
glinda (324 posts) Wed Sep-24-08 01:33 PMResponse to Reply #59112. Exactly-Palin Wired For Brutality She was chosen because she is "Brutal". She is "WIRED", as she says, to be brutal. (maybe wired by speed also) This combined with her extreme Religious Beliefs makes her a "killer without conscience". She is dangerous and it is a huge mistake for the media or someone to not be pointing this out.
123. I'd have to agree with that analysis. She is a hardcore, killing "lesser beings" with her own hands.And we, my friends, are another form of "lesser beings." We can be shot from helicopters, too.
eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-23-08 09:58 PMResponse to Reply #24. Does Olbermann know about this? I assume so but I am going to email this link to him, with the slim hope the MSM will address it
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-23-08 11:45 PMResponse to Reply #733. Yes! The drugs are an attempt to "cure " PSTD,by removing the soldiers conscience.Human beings do not readily take to killing other human beings.Something was in the way .So the military, this bothersome thing in human beings it made soldiers miss their targets,the soldiers were not psychopaths by gum,and the military had to do something about that..That thing in the way was the moral compass and to turn a human being into a gun under command who asks no questions and does not think ,that moral compass HAD to be removed.
shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-24-08 09:20 AMResponse to Reply #584. These guys are trained and have learned to be on a hair trigger in an urban setting. Bad things are going to happen.
C'MON! They can't be that stupid, can they?
Just wait till the cunningly disguised roundup teams go out and start the collection process!
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