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Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« on: September 25, 2008, 02:10:48 PM »
Translation:  "the times are so serious, that they cry out for us to . . . go talk about stuff".  if this guy gets
elected, he will spend all of his time talking about what he is going to do, but no time at all doing what he said,
or anything else for that matter.  if his utter failure to make an impression of any kind, any place that he has
ever been tells us anything, it should tell us that.

serious times call for action.  WHAT a wuss.

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Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue

Sept. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Democrat Barack Obama challenged Republican rival John McCain to go through with their debate tomorrow night, as lawmakers agreed on principles for a financial rescue plan.

``The American people deserve to hear directly from myself and Senator McCain about how we intend to lead our country,'' Obama said in a speech to the Clinton Global Initiative. ``The times are too serious to put our campaign on hold, or to ignore the full range of issues that the next president will face.''

McCain, who spoke earlier to the same group, said the economic crisis should take precedence over the campaign.

``With so much on the line, for America and the world, the debate that matters most right now is taking place in the United States Capitol -- and I intend to join it,'' McCain said.

Obama plans to meet with McCain, President George W. Bush and congressional leaders at the White House later today as lawmakers worked on a $700 billion package to deal with the turmoil on Wall Street.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 02:16:38 PM »

not too many lawmakers have the universally acknowledged integrity to be even attempting this . . .

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WASHINGTON (AP) — John McCain's campaign expressed cautious optimism Thursday as congressional Republicans and Democrats agreed in principle on a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry hours before the two presidential candidates were to meet with President Bush on the crisis.

Even so, the action didn't appear to be strong enough to convince McCain to attend Friday's scheduled presidential debate. His campaign has said he wouldn't participate unless there was consensus between Congress and the administration, and a spokesman said the afternoon developments had not changed his plans.

"There's no deal until there's a deal. We're optimistic but we want to get this thing done," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said.

Obama still wants the face-off to go on, and is slated to travel to the debate site in Mississippi on Friday.
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"With so much on the line, for America and the world, the debate that matters most right now is taking place in the United States Capitol — and I intend to join it," McCain said after addressing former President Clinton's Global Initiative in New York on Thursday before heading to Washington.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 02:17:15 PM »
Yea the American people aren't interested in you actually doing something . They just want to hear you talk about what you would do.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 02:20:10 PM »
Yea the American people aren't interested in you actually doing something . They just want to hear you talk about what you would do.

it's not as though the american people haven't been listening to him droning on endlessly about what he is going to
do for the past two YEARS, although, admittedly, it does seem to be different every times he explains
it.  and it's not like this is the only debate of the election cycle.

I just don't understand why he is pushing so hard on this one, unless rescheduling the debate would screw up
his fund raising schedule. :whatever:

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 03:35:49 PM »
to be a bit snarky, he (da O) is prepared and memorized for the debate .... if he goes to DC, he might be required say something he's not prepared for or to {{{gasp}}} vote on something, and this close to the election, that might be dangerous.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 03:40:40 PM »
to be a bit snarky, he (da O) is prepared and memorized for the debate .... if he goes to DC, he might be required say something he's not prepared for or to {{{gasp}}} vote on something, and this close to the election, that might be dangerous.

you're right.  a vote looks too much like having a record, and he can't allow that to happen.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 03:43:21 PM »
He seems a bit to eager about this debate...Something is fishy...He must have gotten the questions in advance and has memorized his answers.  He wants to proceed before his memory fails him.


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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 03:46:49 PM »
He seems a bit to eager about this debate...Something is fishy...He must have gotten the questions in advance and has memorized his answers.  He wants to proceed before his memory fails him.


he wants to get the foreign policy debate out of the way as quickly and noiselessly as possible, so to leave the maximum amount of time for people to forget any gaffes, and for him to repair any damage that he does to himself before the election, and with the least amount of people taking notice.  that's why they did it on a friday night.  I have no idea why the mccain camp agreed to that one.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2008, 03:47:45 PM »

oh, and any change in schedule would probably require the cancellation of a fund raiser, which he can't afford to do.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2008, 03:49:03 PM »
He seems a bit to eager about this debate...Something is fishy...He must have gotten the questions in advance and has memorized his answers.  He wants to proceed before his memory fails him.


he wants to get the foreign policy debate out of the way as quickly and noiselessly as possible, so to leave the maximum amount of time for people to forget any gaffes, and for him to repair any damage that he does to himself before the election, and with the least amount of people taking notice.  that's why they did it on a friday night.  I have no idea why the mccain camp agreed to that one.

For real... A FRIDAY NIGHT ?!?!?!

I work nights anyway so I'll probably watch the Live Feed.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2008, 03:52:04 PM »
Of course he's got the topics in advance ... actually, they both do  .....  expect the poor man to speak off the cuff ...what are you thinking ... oh for shame how cruel the thought.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2008, 11:18:49 PM »

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"It is my intention to be in Mississippi and obviously the biggest priority is making sure that we get this deal done. But I also think it's important to describe to the American people where the next president wants to take the country and how he's going to deal with this crisis."

pssssst, barack.  the first debate is on foreign policy.  stooge. :whatever:

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Industry officials said Obama's campaign was inquiring about buying airtime made available where McCain was absent.
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Obama, for his part, didn't curtail any of his campaign activities. In fact, the Democrat also rolled out a new 60-second, TV ad in which he cited economic policies endorsed by Bush and McCain as essentially to blame for the troubles.

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what's he going to do if he wins, and his job isn't about talking about things anymore, and he has to actually accomplish something?

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2008, 11:29:44 PM »
He seems a bit to eager about this debate...Something is fishy...He must have gotten the questions in advance and has memorized his answers.  He wants to proceed before his memory fails him.



I would not doubt it; the media wants this sucker to win so bad they can taste it. Seems strange to me that Rudy and Palin's TelePrompTer went out at the Repub. convention. Empty suit O's TelePrompter went out and that was so funny seeing him winging it like he had a bowl of mush in his mouth.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2008, 01:33:06 AM »

so, if a rescue bill is actually ready (highly unlikely, I know), harry reid would hold the financial survival (since
it is the great depression, according to BHO) of the country hostage to a debate that could easily be rescheduled,
and wouldn't even be an issue if That BarackStar! had the guts to take mccain up on his townhall offer last month?

he's a coward.

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Reid: No votes Friday night to avoid ‘excuses’

WASHINGTON -- It won’t be votes in the Senate that keep Republican presidential candidate John McCain away from Friday night’s debate.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said today he would not be scheduling any votes to “make sure there’s no excuses to not go forward with the debate.”

“If ever there was a time in the history of our country … American people need to hear this.”

Republican National Committee spokesman Bill Riggs said: “It’s clear that Harry Reid and Barack Obama would rather score cheap political points with Washington parlor games than do the business of the American people and find bipartisan solutions.”

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2008, 07:25:20 AM »
Tonight is the great and feared Foreign Policy Debate - with likely no less than 2/3rds of it given over to economics BaRock can sail through a debate he was widely expected to lose.

Reschedule and he spends an entire debate actually on the issue of foreign policy, he can't allow that.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2008, 07:35:38 AM »
He could always debate Biden. Or better yet, Palin. Now that's a debate I'd like to see.

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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2008, 07:43:38 AM »
Because McCain has not definitely said yes or no to the debate, the interest is higher. It is in Obama's best interest simply to shut the hell up.

Not that he'll do that, because, as people have said, talking is what he does best.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2008, 08:13:28 AM »
Because McCain has not definitely said yes or no to the debate, the interest is higher. It is in Obama's best interest simply to shut the hell up.

Not that he'll do that, because, as people have said, talking is what he does best.

axelrod was on PMSNBC this morning accusing mccain of every conceivable depraved ulterior motive for suspending his campaign and going to washington DC to actually do his job.  and then they accused him of torpedoing the paulson bailout plan.


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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2008, 10:38:36 AM »
 :overreaction:

axelrod is a .. a ...ah hell, you know.  soooo typical though.  We have a crises, but not one "they" want to deal with so lets create a new one of conspiracy to change the focus and maybe the voters won't notice.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2008, 10:40:32 AM »
ah, word just came across that McCain will be at the debate tonight.  Obammessiah will have to actually debate.  I'd love to see McCain come out blazing and just rip him to shreds.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2008, 11:00:15 AM »
Regardless of the fact the debate is to be on foreign policy and national security...it's going to end up being about the economy.

I just hope and pray that McCain will be able to rip Obama a new one just as well on the economy as he would foreign policy and national security.
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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2008, 11:10:40 AM »
Regardless of the fact the debate is to be on foreign policy and national security...it's going to end up being about the economy.

I just hope and pray that McCain will be able to rip Obama a new one just as well on the economy as he would foreign policy and national security.

the PBS cretin that is moderating/covering for The BarackStar! in the debate has said that he will ask questions about the financial crisis, aka, "the great depression of 2008, caused by bush/mccain corruption, greed, and mismanagement, which wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the iraq war."


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Re: Obama Challenges McCain on Debate as Talks Continue
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2008, 11:30:00 AM »
The thing is...we all know this economy thing is going to get worked out some way or another.

I want to hear what Obama's plans are for national security and foreign policy. He is never clear on what his plan is...primarily because it changes weekly.

For John McCain to expertly slice and dice Obama for the next 39 days....he needs something tangible to skewer. To show the independents, the undecideds, and the Dumbasses exactly what they will be getting with Obama.

Unless the majority of the questions are about NS/FP....no one will really know where Obama stands.

 

:thatsright: how could I be so stupid....that's what the MSM and Dems want..... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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