Sky is FALLING! : Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations

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im1013  (264 posts)      Mon Sep-22-08 07:00 PM
Original message
Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations
 Advertisements [?]Source: Democracy Now!

Democracy Now! Headlines for September 22, 2008

Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations

Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.


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WHAT IN HELL ARE THEY PLANNING????

inanna  (580 posts)      Mon Sep-22-08 07:01 PM
Response to Original message
1. WTF?!

fed_up_mother (926 posts)      Mon Sep-22-08 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. So...how many soldiers are we talking about here?
 Anyone know?

readmoreoften  (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-22-08 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #15
31. According to Wikipedia the # of a brigade is 1500-4000.
 Give or take whatever Bush says.

billybob537  (1000+ posts)      Mon Sep-22-08 07:04 PM
Response to Original message
2. sounds like Bush is planning a COUP
 Oh crap I should have said coupe d'etat then Bush couldn't have understood.

shadowknows69  (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-22-08 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. And the Iraqi population was the test rat

 

inna (164 posts)       Mon Sep-22-08 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #21
46. OMFG. is this one of those microwave weapons??
 
holy shit. are they really going to use it on us??

  Nah... That's going to be used to cook giant burritos.  Move along ya looky loos!!

amandabeech (1000+ posts)      Mon Sep-22-08 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
6. Expectation of riots if Obama loses.
 Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 07:14 PM by amandabeech
In the '60s, it was the National Guard. They're all in Iraq, so now we have the army. Quelle surprise.

Frankly, the Guard would be better. They're under state direction when at home, and would be more likely to refuse unreasonable orders if things came to that, which I hope they don't.

On edit: Better the army than Blackwater, although I'm sure they're ramping up, too.

readmoreoften  (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-22-08 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #6
29. That's why they suspended posse comitatus. We're not supposed to have the fed army on our own soil.
 This was a huge "check" in the checks and balances of our system. 

Xithras (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-22-08 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. The suspension was repealed. 
 Keep that in mind when people claim that the Democrats haven't "done anything" since getting control over Congress. The articles of the Insurrection Act that suspended Posse Comitatus were repealed in the 2008 Defense Authorization Act. We're back to the old rules.

Maybe somebody just forgot to tell Bush

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Canuckistanian  (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-22-08 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
8. WHAT 'civil unrest'?
 I don't like the sound of this.

I've also been hearing of various police forces suddenly getting shipments of riot gear.

WTF is going on?

im1013  (264 posts)      Mon Sep-22-08 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Sounds to me like...
 they're planning 1 of 3 probable things:

1. Massive vote thievery, thus causing McLame to win and riots to ensue.

or

2. Taking out Obama, thus causing McLame to win and riots to ensue.

or

3. A convenience little "ter'rist attack", thus suspending the election entirely.

My bet is #1. But, all options equally bad.

offog (87 posts)     Mon Sep-22-08 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. This scares the crap out of me too,
  even though I'm Canadian and in Canada. For one thing, I really want to see the Americans get better government because you deserve it. Also, I don't like the idea of living next door to a police state/military dictatorship. I'm already afraid that a Republican administration will invade Canada for its oil and water.

Science fiction writer Robert A. Heinlein wrote a novel "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" many decades ago. It's about a Moon colony fighting for independence. Heinlein's politics are way right wing, but this novel is practically a step-by-step guide on how to set up a resistance/revolutionary movement. It even gives detailed instructions on how to set up resistance cells.

I think that all you progressives out there should look for it and read it. Libraries may have it, and the Science Fiction Book Club may have some copies. I got one for my Mom from SFBC a couple of years ago, and also found a copy for myself at my local used book store.

Oil and water HELL!  We'uns is coming for your Bacon and your SYRUP!  Then our new Veep is gonna shoot all yer mooses!!!!

tnlurker (412 posts)      Mon Sep-22-08 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
22. How do we reach the individual soldier and ask them to disobey
 Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 07:51 PM by tnlurker
The orders to shot at us and suppress us. If you personally know any members of this division or any member of your local police departments you need to have a talk with them about joining the protests and not siding with the authoritarians who will be giving the orders to engage any domestic disturbances

    Oh SHit!!   

Texas Explorer  (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-22-08 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. My first cousin is assigned to "Ready", which is part of the 1st BCT, 3rd ID and
 I think it's illegal to interfere with military operations. I haven't spoken with her, which is weird in itself. Can't get her on the phone. She knows how I feel about the war. Maybe she's avoiding me because she knows about this. I'll still try now and then to call her.

  Maybe she is sick of hearing about OBAMA from her retarded cousin...

alyce douglas  (1000+ posts)     Mon Sep-22-08 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
43. I do not like the sound of this at all.
 Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 09:01 PM by alyce douglas
but there are more of us than them. I keep on telling myself.

maybe we should send this article to Rachel, maybe she can do some investigative probing on this.

I leave that last straight line to the fine posters here in the Dumpster! 

[Vagabond]

Three days now!  My God! Even that idiot in Arizona figured out when to shut up.

In 1997 my brigade participated in an excercise and deployed mostly in the state of Arizona.  As I have said, I was comms so that means we're troop light and equipment heavy.  There was less than five thousand of us all put together.  Some jerk up in the mountains near Tuscon with a HAM radio started broadcasting that we were deploying to help the governor declare martial law.  The jerk couldn't figure out we were small in number with no real combat equipment and there was no logical reason for declaring martial law that we couldn't help enforce anyway. 

It did a fine job of setting us on edge.