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I need help
« on: September 18, 2008, 01:48:39 PM »
*If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
*Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.
 * If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
 * Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
 * Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
 * Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.
 * If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of     the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
 representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's=20 school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now.


How would you respond to this?  I have a few responses lined up...but I know you folks can collectively come up with some more.
I am trying to talk some sense into my boss and a moonbat coworker sent this to both of us.

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Re: I need help
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 01:52:23 PM »
My standard reply is "Keep this kind of crap up!  It is making it ever so much easier for McCain to crush Obama this November."
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Re: I need help
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 01:54:01 PM »
My standard reply is "Keep this kind of crap up!  It is making it ever so much easier for McCain to crush Obama this November."
No no no...I want to refute EACH point and rip it apart....point by point.  My boss is an independant and although she's leaning towards obama, I want to convert her.. :-)

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Re: I need help
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 01:58:53 PM »
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spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience

"If you think serving for a mere one and a half years in the U.S. Senate, without authoring any significant legislation, and becoming famous for voting 'Present' on the few bills the least-active Congress in a generation has actually passed, could possibly add up to the above, you would probably buy the rest of the distortions in that email, and you would be stupid enough to vote for a Democrat."

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Re: I need help
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 02:08:32 PM »
Most the points on that MEME are irrelevent or out & out lies. So much so it would be a waste of time trying to persuade anyone that believes them to think otherwise.

Yes Obama has an impressive resume. The problem is when you look beyond the positions and titles and look for actual accomplishments is when you come up empty handed.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2008, 02:11:20 PM by Zeus »
It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.

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Re: I need help
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 02:11:13 PM »
*If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
Really, Hawaiins are Americans?
*Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.
Never heard of mooseburgers, but I have had Hawaiin Poi.
 * If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
Well, he did go by Barry, but chose to use that name to show his difference.
 * Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
People sure give their kids weird names these days.
 * Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
"First, kill all the lawyers." j/k
 * Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.
Small colleges are hard to judge.
 * If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of     the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
 representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
Ties to Acorn voter registration? Most bills with his name, he jumped on when he found them popular.  In the state house, Emil Jones often tacked his name onto bills.  BAIP
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
That may be true if the pastor preaches hatred of the US and of white people
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
Does that include teaching kindergardeners about safe sex?  That was the wording in the bill he supported.
* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's=20 school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.
Palin wanted abstinence include with other forms of birth control
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
Michelle was given a new position and salary boost after Obama was elected to the Illinois senate.  When she quit that job, the vacancy was never filled.
* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
Secession is not mentioned in the platform of AKIP. Her hubby had a DUI, Obama tried illegal drugs.
OK, much clearer now.

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Re: I need help
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 02:11:53 PM »
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spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience

"If you think serving for a mere one and a half years in the U.S. Senate, without authoring any significant legislation, and becoming famous for voting 'Present' on the few bills the least-active Congress in a generation has actually passed, could possibly add up to the above, you would probably buy the rest of the distortions in that email, and you would be stupid enough to vote for a Democrat."

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LOL!  Love it...using it. :lmao:

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Re: I need help
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 02:19:45 PM »
*If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
Really, Hawaiins are Americans?
*Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.
Never heard of mooseburgers, but I have had Hawaiin Poi.
 * If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
Well, he did go by Barry, but chose to use that name to show his difference.
 * Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
People sure give their kids weird names these days.
 * Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
"First, kill all the lawyers." j/k
 * Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.
Small colleges are hard to judge.
 * If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of     the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
 representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
Ties to Acorn voter registration? Most bills with his name, he jumped on when he found them popular.  In the state house, Emil Jones often tacked his name onto bills.  BAIP
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
That may be true if the pastor preaches hatred of the US and of white people
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
Does that include teaching kindergardeners about safe sex?  That was the wording in the bill he supported.
* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's=20 school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.
Palin wanted abstinence include with other forms of birth control
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
Michelle was given a new position and salary boost after Obama was elected to the Illinois senate.  When she quit that job, the vacancy was never filled.
* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
Secession is not mentioned in the platform of AKIP. Her hubby had a DUI, Obama tried illegal drugs.
OK, much clearer now.

Great stuff! thanks... :-)

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Re: I need help
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 02:20:56 PM »
Most the points on that MEME are irrelevent or out & out lies. So much so it would be a waste of time trying to persuade anyone that believes them to think otherwise.

Well, I still will take every chance I'm offered to bash down any distortions.  Especially if I'm trying to gain another vote for my side.

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Re: I need help
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 02:51:08 PM »
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

If you believe that running for the country's highest executive office for 19 months while your United States Senate seat sits cold and empty is qualification for that executive office...

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 03:10:34 PM »
Most the points on that MEME are irrelevent or out & out lies. So much so it would be a waste of time trying to persuade anyone that believes them to think otherwise.

Well, I still will take every chance I'm offered to bash down any distortions.  Especially if I'm trying to gain another vote for my side.

Maybe these would be helpful...

Obama says he's not ready to be President

Democrats (and his VP pick!) say Obama is not qualified


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Re: I need help
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 03:17:22 PM »
*If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
No, but having a communist poet named Fred live with you for a few years during your childhood is bound to rub off on you.
*Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.
No argument here
 * If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
No, he's not a Muslim, but having friends like Ayers, Dorn, Mr. 19 Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, etc. might give people cause to doubt his patriotism.
 * Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
And their names are a problem...how?
 * Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
No, but...see two points above and replace "patriotism" with "stability".
 * Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.
I'd rather go to 5 small colleges than getting consumed by a big name Ivy League type college filled with professors that are to the left of Che and Stalin.
 * If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of     the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
 representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
You got it, bub. By the way, what is a community organizer anyway?
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.
Mayor, governor = executive experience. By the way, since you're throwing population figures around like this, what's that all important magic number of people that you must represent as a governor, senator, etc. in order for it to be considered experience for the president?
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
No, but sitting in a church with a radical, anti-american, rasict preacher for 20 years will raise douubts. Still, I'm glad that neither of these things determines whether someone is a christian or not. Barak may be a christian. He may not. That's between him and God.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
Not even king David was perfect. His sin was much like this, but God forgave him. Being a christian does not mean doing no wrong. It means having a relationship with Jesus, and if you make a mistake (even a big one like that), He will forgive you and expunge your sins. Now, that doesn't mean you're free to go nuts and act like a reprobate. It means to turn away from sin (repent). Sure, there will be mistakes along the way; we're not perfect, but at least we have someone to turn to whenever we need forgiveness.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
TO A 5 YEAR OLD? Seriously, you really agree with this?
* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's=20 school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.
Absinence always works when practiced. Also, how many virgins in the US have AIDS?
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
"For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country."
* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
At least you're admitting that Sarah was not a member of that group, so there's that. Also, you criticize Todd for a DUI, yet you say nothing about the trooper who was driving his squad car while drunk and tasered a 10 year old child. That "scandal", like aaaaall the otherse, will go nowhere, so you can just stop hoping right now.
OK, much clearer now.
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Re: I need help
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 04:09:43 PM »
*If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'

-- Barack himself is the one who plays up his differences most of all, in order to score sympathy points and to label his detractors as prejudiced.

*Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.

-- Don't knock it till you've tried it.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

-- Take that up with the New Yorker.  Most of us neocons don't like his friendships with domestic terrorists.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

-- No, you're a Barracuda. 

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

-- No one said any such thing.  However, Bush is an Ivy League gradutate, too.  And the left paints him as an idiot. 

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

-- Is transfering schools supposed to reflect poorly on someone?  Because an awful lot of people transfer for an awful lot of reasons.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

-- "1st Blacks" are amazing people, I agree.  Tell me, why does the left hate Clarence and Condi, again?  And they weren't to fond of Colin, either.  Do I need to go into exhaustive detail of their careers?  

-- Legislators are not executives.  Community organizers are not executives.  Committee chairs (<-- read "political appointees") are not executives. 

-- He didn't really spend 4 years in the Senate, he spent 1 year in the Senate.  He's been on the campaign trail the rest of the time.  But I'll tell you what, I'll give you those 4.  McCain has over 20.  For those of you who've forgotten 1st Grade numbers:  20 > 4.

* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

-- 6 years mayor + 2 years governor = 8 years as an EXECUTIVE.  8 more years than Obama.  In addition to her 4 years as a legistator, thanks for reminding me. 

-- Are you forgetting McCain is running for President?

-- You left off "basketball star" and "beauty queen."

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

-- And who's been seriously saying this?

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

-- And how do you become uniquely qualified to speak on McCain's faith and personal life?

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

-- "Age appropriate" is the key phrase here, Dr. Elders.

-- But more so than the sex ed, we're REALLY concerned about his vote on the Born Alive Act.  "Moral fiber of society" does come into play here, I would think.

* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's=20 school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

-- No other option?  Are condoms against the law in Alaska?  News to me.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.

-- We can't help it if she puts her foot in her mouth.  If she scales back on her ludicrous comments, she may not take quite so much flak for them.  Honest Injun.

* If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

-- The distortions on Todd Palin's past aside, he isn't admired for what went on in his past.  If we wanted to hammer people for their past, Obama snorted lines and Ted Kennedy killed a girl.  Todd Palin is admired for being a hard-working, child-raising, snowmobile-racing, blue-collar salt-of-the-earth type man... TODAY.   




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Re: I need help
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 04:39:52 PM »
Great stuff everyone thanks...i kinda merged a few things from everyone, including my own statements..and I'm looking forward to their reactions.  I know I wont' change the moonbat...but I still have hope that I can get to my boss before Election day.