http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x221691Oh my.
It looks as if franksolich acquired another Primitive Of Interest.
Never mind the original post, or the other primitives at the bonfire; it's the usual fruitcakery, many of the primitives bitching and moaning because there's things the Hunnic primitive, the "Andre II" primitive, doesn't seem to be getting.
Andre II (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-31-08 06:15 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Please clarify
There have been several intercpts prior to 9/11.
But please clarify: with "intercepts over land"
do you mean that the plane that was intercepted had been declared an emergency when flying over land
or that the plane was only intercepted when over land (including therefore intruders who were declared intruders before flying over land and which only were intercepted when flying over land).
Andre II (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. Easy to track
"This plane had IFF - it was easy to track and find. It was not like 911."
Why weren't AA 11, UA 175 and UA 93 easy to track on 9/11?
Your general statement: "There is no evidence of intercepts over land" is clearly wrong.
You demand many details about the intercepts. I'd be happy to provide you with them if you can show me where I can find in general details of NORAD intercepts. The details you ask for aren't covered in the few article in the press.
Btw there are other intercepts prior to 9/11: eg Larry Morris in 1988. Thomas Root
And how do you explain this: "Until Sept. 11, NORAD was expected to defend the United States and Canada from aircraft based elsewhere. After the attacks, that responsibility broadened to include flights that originated in the two countries.
But there were exceptions in the early drills, including one operation, planned in July 2001 and conducted later, that involved planes from airports in Utah and Washington state that were "hijacked." Those planes were escorted by U.S. and Canadian aircraft to airfields in British Columbia and Alaska."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-nora...
Andre II (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. Basic facts
And United Airlines managed to track UA 93 till the crash, why?
And Cleveland ATC Stacey Taylor did track UA 93, why?
And quote from 9/11 timeline: "Flight controllers never lose sight of the flight (AA11), though they can no longer determine altitude once the transponder is turned off"
Yes, basic facts.
Andre II (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Yes, do you?
Were AA 11, UA 175 and UA 93 tracked?
Yes or No.
Andre II (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-08-08 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Can you please answer the simple question I've raised?
Was AA 11, UA 175 and UA 93 tracked?
Andre II (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-09-08 05:03 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. until a point?
So these three flights weren't tracked until the crash?
According to you until when were they tracked and why weren't they tracked until the crash (as it should be clear I'm not talking about the exact altitude of the plane but about its location)?
Andre II (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-12-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #20
32. So, as you didn't hesitate to make fun of my lack of basic facts
maybe you care to back up your claim that AA 11, UA 175 and UA 93 weren't tracked until they crashed?!
Andre II (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-17-08 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. As usual SDuderstadt every time when I simply challenge your statements you back off and are unable of even presenting the smallest piece of evidence.
Whil I'm still patiently waiting for your examples of other ways of positively identifying the alleged hijackers besides matching the DNA .... here you say thatthe planes were tracked until to a certain point. But you're unable to say to which point (and why by consequence the plane wasn't tracked afterwards) and why the hack several pieces of evidence show that the three of the four planes were tracked till the crash.
I don't have hard feelings. Just, disappointing that you're unable to back up your claims and you're even unable to acknowledge it.
Actually, one sort of feels for the Hunnic primitive, the grief he gets from the other primitives, who might, or might not, be eons stupider than the Hunnic primitive.
