Remember when?

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kentuck (114,223 posts)

Remember when?

Trump attacked Biden after the hurricane wiped out a big part of North Carolina. He was quick to point fingers and blame FEMA for lack of an adequate response.

Now, he is stuck with a disaster in Texas with a heart-wrenching loss of life. He doesn't want to talk about FEMA or the fact that National Weather Service was one of the cuts he chose to make in his attack upon our government.

I've always found it rather strange that he seemed to think nothing like that would ever happen on his watch?

And then, there were all the MAGAs screaming to make public the Epstein list. Now, during all this chaos , Trump's DOJ and FBI are now saying there is no "client list". Epstein committed suicide. End of story.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220465915

YAWN

[jukin]

Watch how fast, already is happening, under President Trump. Then compare and contrast the delayed, slow, or non existent response to the floods that happened under JoePedo's junta.

Another point, I doubt Trump will stop private citizens from helping in Texas like the criminal JoePedo junta did in NC and TN.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

East Palestine, Ohio would like a word.

[SVPete]

Reich-Wing fact-check info-dump:

From https://www.kut.org/energy-environment/2025-07-05/heres-a-timeline-of-the-catastrophic-texas-floods :

Wednesday, July 2:

The Texas Division of Emergency Management (TDEM) announced that it was activating state emergency response resources because of the threat of flooding.

At 4:41 p.m., early hints of severe weather came in a post on X by the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio that said: "scattered moderate to heavy showers continue to develop and expand to the Hill Country." (https://www.fema.gov/disaster/4879)

Thursday, July 3:

At 9:47 a.m. Texas Division of Emergency Management posted on X weather guidance in both English and Spanish, informing followers about what to do in a flood, adding: "As we head into the holiday weekend and the flood threat in West & Central TX continues, stay weather aware!"

At some point in the morning, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick later said at a press conference, the TDEM Region 6 Assistance Chief had "personally contacted the judges and mayors in that area and notified them all of potential flooding." He said it was unclear exactly where in the region the storm would hit.
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Friday, July 4:

At 12:42 a.m., the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio posted on X upgrading its flood watch to a flood warning for part of the impacted area. In a post from 2:14 a.m., that area was expanded. A flood warning occurs when flooding is imminent or already happening.

At 1:26 a.m., the National Weather Service's Weather Prediction Center said "flash flooding likely overnight with significant impacts possible." This message was posted on X a minute later.

Around 3:30 a.m. the Kerrville City Manager Dalton Rice said he was out for an early morning jog along the Guadalupe River and saw "not a drop of rain," according to Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who recounted his conversation with the city manager. Rice added that he left around 4 a.m. when "there was very light rain…We did not see any signs of the river rising at that time."

At 4:06 a.m. the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio posted on X: "A very dangerous flash flooding event is ongoing." It ended: "Turn Around, Don't Drown!"
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Kidd — the Texas Emergency Management Chief — said the boats and other equipment that was pre-positioned started responding immediately, although he did not specify at what time. "Those were put immediately into use as soon as the rain fell and the 911 calls started coming in. They were already here," he said.

Speaking on Friday, Lt. Gov. Patrick said there were 14 helicopters, 12 drones, nine rescue teams as well as "swimmers in the water rescuing adults and children out of trees." He said there were 400 to 500 people on the ground helping with the rescue effort.

FEMA Activates in Texas Following President Trump’s Major Disaster Declaration Announcement

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/07/06/fema-activates-texas-following-president-trumps-major-disaster-declaration

WASHINGTON – Today, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has been activated in Texas following President Trump’s Major Disaster Declaration.
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“Thank you, President Trump. We are currently deploying federal emergency management resources to Texas first responders, and will work closely with state and local authorities to ensure the people of Texas get the support they need as search efforts continue and recovery begins,” said Secretary Kristi Noem. “Pray for the victims, the families, and our first responders. God bless Texas.”

The Department of Homeland Security will ensure that state and local authorities have the resources they need to lead a swift and effective response amid this tragic disaster. Secretary Noem was on the ground with Governor Abbott and local leaders on Saturday and will continue to work to make sure Texas has the resources needed to respond and recover.

FEMA activates in Texas after Trump signs Major Disaster Declaration for Kerr County

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/fema-activates-in-texas-after-trump-signs-major-disaster-declaration-for-kerr-county/3879038/

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) was activated in Texas after President Donald Trump signed a Major Disaster Declaration for Kerr County.

Flash floods tore through the Guadalupe River corridor Friday morning, killing at least 59 people, including 38 adults and 21 children. Many remain unaccounted for, including 11 children missing from Camp Mystic.

FEMA will work with Texas state and local authorities to aid in the search and rescue efforts, according to a U.S. Homeland Security press release sent out Sunday morning.

Trump signs disaster declaration for Texas floods

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5386974-trump-disaster-declaration-texas-floods/

President Trump said Sunday he has signed a disaster declaration for the recent deadly flooding in Texas.

“I just signed a Major Disaster Declaration for Kerr County, Texas, to ensure that our Brave First Responders immediately have the resources they need,” Trump said in a Truth Social post Sunday morning (7:59 AM EST). “These families are enduring an unimaginable tragedy, with many lives lost, and many still missing. The Trump Administration continues to work closely with State and Local Leaders.”

[SVPete]

National Weather Service shares timeline of alerts ahead of catastrophic Texas flooding

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/national-weather-service-alert-timeline-texas-flooding/3879084/

An unedited timeline provided by the NWS is below.

The National Water Center Flood Hazard Outlook issued on Thursday July 3rd morning indicated an expansion of flash flood potential to include Kerrville, TX and surrounding areas.

A Flood Watch was issued by NWS Austin/San Antonio at 1:18PM CT on Thursday, in effect through Friday morning.

The Weather Prediction Center (WPC) issued three Mesoscale Precipitation Discussions for the excessive rainfall event as early as 6:10PM CDT Thursday indicating the potential for Flash Flooding.
The National Water Center Area Hydrologic Discussion (AHD) #144 at issued 6:22 PM CDT on 7/3/2025 messaged locally considerable flood wording for areas north and west of San Antonio, including the city of Kerrville.

The first Flash Flood Warning for the event was issued at 11:41 PM CDT Thursday for Bandera County.

At 1:14 AM CDT Friday: Flash Flood Warning with a considerable tag was issued for Bandera and Kerr Counties. Flash Flood Warnings with the Impact-Based Warning tags “Considerable” or “Catastrophic” denote high-damage threats and will automatically trigger Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEAs) on enabled mobile devices, ensuring only the most life-threatening flash flood events prompt urgent public notifications. All alerts are also sent out over NOAA Weather Radio.

First reports from Kerr County Sheriffs Office of flooding at low water crossings had 201 minutes of lead time (4:35 AM CDT).

Flash Flood Warning was upgraded to a Flash Flood Emergency for South-central Kerr County, Including Hunt, as early as 4:03 AM Friday.

The 5:00 AM CT July 4th National Water Center Area Hydrologic Discussion #146 included concern for widespread considerable flooding through the day. The Flood Hazard Outlook was also upgraded to considerable and catastrophic.

Flash Flood Emergency issued for the Guadalupe River at 5:34 AM CDT.
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Local NWS office had extra staffers
NWS Meteorologist Jason Runyen said the National Weather Service office in New Braunfels, which delivers forecasts for Austin, San Antonio and the surrounding areas, had extra staff on duty during the storms.

Where the office would typically have two forecasters on duty during clear weather, they had up to five on staff.

“There were extra people in here that night, and that's typical in every weather service office — you staff up for an event and bring people in on overtime and hold people over,” Runyen said.