Papers, please.

[CC27]

Swede (35,977 posts)

Papers, please.
A post on facebook.

So here we are. 2025. And a federal judge is being grilled like a ******* criminal while stepping off a passenger train in Havre, Montana, because two dudes in desert camo with “ICE” stitched on their chests decided to play “Show Me Your Papers”—on U.S. soil, with no probable cause, and no legal warrant. You know, just your casual, everyday paramilitary checkpoint at a train stop in America. Totally normal.
Larry Baer, an attorney and tribal court judge—mind you, a judge—goes to stretch his legs during a routine Amtrak stop and boom: he’s face-to-face with the soft boot of authoritarianism. No explanation. No legal justification. Just a demand for citizenship confirmation, verbal only if you look like him. Because, let’s be honest, we all know damn well if Baer had a deeper tan or a Spanish accent, they’d be rifling through his bags, pressing him against the train, and asking why his great-great-grandma didn’t speak English.
And these ICE goons weren’t subtle either—desert camo. Not police blues. Not federal polos. Freakin’ combat uniforms. Like they’re about to raid a cartel compound and not, you know, harass a bunch of elderly train passengers on their way through the Hi-Line.
And get this: ICE denies it was them. They pass the buck to Customs and Border Protection. CBP’s response? “We’re checking into it.” What the hell does that even mean? You’re the guys with the guns on the train! Don’t you know what your agents are doing? Or are you just hoping the public forgets by the time you finish your internal game of hot potato?

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02ubZx3MtkcVHyPRgRDHkrDDZLdnoi96FtPUnnHWXfCwqpzAn5EYUcfYawJtyWQ2iPl&id=100088322149337

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220260033

YAWN

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Remember when these assholes ruthlessly demanded vaccine passports to buy groceries for your family or to keep your job?

[CC27]

Remember when these assholes ruthlessly demanded vaccine passports to buy groceries for your family or to keep your job?

Great point

[Ralph Wiggum]

Remember when these assholes ruthlessly demanded vaccine passports to buy groceries for your family or to keep your job?

And crossing state lines from a free Red state to a Stalinist Blue state.

[DefiantSix]

Remember when these assholes ruthlessly demanded vaccine passports to buy groceries for your family or to keep your job?

Funny how they only get noisy about shit like this happening in a purported "free country" when it's one of THEIR public officials being inconvenienced by this. There are full on checkpoints with permanent structures manned by federal border enforcement, doing this same thing to every Joe Nobody travelling on the interstate highway 80 - 100 miles inside the border EVERY DAY. I haven't heard a word from these clowns about 4th Amendment "secure in your papers without a warrant" or right to travel infringements at THESE checkpoints at all from these clowns.

Pick a lane, DUmp'Rats. Either it's an infringement ALL THE TIME, or it's an infringement none of the time.

[DefiantSix]

And crossing state lines from a free Red state to a Stalinist Blue state.

Well, there it makes sense. Never know what diseases you could pick up from those filthy, sub-human leftist scum living in the blue states... 

[SVPete]

... two dudes in desert camo with “ICE” stitched on their chests ...

Well, Havre, MT does exist and does have a train station. But IF this happened, what proof is there that the two guys were not cosplayer-phonies? ICE people have plenty of known targets, so there's no need for doing a fishing expedition with rando train passengers. Either they were phonies or there's much more to the judge than DU-grade Progs will ever admit.

[SVPete]

From https://www.havredailynews.com/story/2025/04/10/local/ice-questions-amtrak-passengers-in-havre-about-citizenship/547792.html :

A spokesperson for ICE said the activity was not related to that agency, and referred questions to Customs and Border Protection.

ICE representative Alethea Smock repeated that today.

"Confirming again, this was not an ICE activity, and your story was incorrect; many other sites have picked up on it and are saying ICE is boarding trains, this is generally a CBP activity."

Jason Givens, U.S. Border Patrol public affairs specialist, confirmed this morning that it was Border Patrol agents who boarded the train Sunday in Havre.

Smock said it is possible people saw partially obscured "POLICE" labels on the clothing of the people on the train and though the labels said "ICE."

Givens gave background on the agents boarding the train:

"U.S. Border Patrol agents conduct enforcement actions at transportation hubs away from the immediate border as part of the defense-in-depth strategy of disrupting human smuggling activities at transportation sites that are used to further illegal trafficking into the interior of the United States. These operations serve as a vital component to our overall border security efforts.
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Baer said Thursday he was getting off Amtrak's Empire Builder Sunday to stretch his legs during its stop in Havre when the two law enforcement officers - he said he saw ICE on their clothing -  in paramilitary gear, stopped and questioned train passengers, including himself, about whether they were U.S. citizens.
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(Baer) said he told them he was - he first asked if they were joking, he said, and they repeated the question - and when he said he was they went on to the next passenger.
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Baer said he only saw the officers question himself and others near him, but they were on the train nearly the entire time it was at the station, so, although he does not know for sure, it is his presumption that the officers went through the entire train and asked all passengers about their U.S. citizenship status.

He said they didn't ask for documentation of his citizenship and moved on once he said he was a citizen.

So, the incident did happen, but not as DUmmies claim or fantasize. Baer was asked a question, answered, and the CBP agent moved on. There is zero evidence anyone was asked for "papers" or had their luggage or effects examined, not even a black or Hispanic or Asian or Chartreuse Neptunian who happened to be on the train.

Given DU-grade Progs' love of criminal illegals, imagine their poutrage had the CBP intercepted a thugling sex-trafficking a teen boy or girl!

[FunkyZero]

Funny how they only get noisy about shit like this happening in a purported "free country" when it's one of THEIR public officials being inconvenienced by this. There are full on checkpoints with permanent structures manned by federal border enforcement, doing this same thing to every Joe Nobody travelling on the interstate highway 80 - 100 miles inside the border EVERY DAY. I haven't heard a word from these clowns about 4th Amendment "secure in your papers without a warrant" or right to travel infringements at THESE checkpoints at all from these clowns.

Pick a lane, DUmp'Rats. Either it's an infringement ALL THE TIME, or it's an infringement none of the time.

I was just thinking the same thing... and it's been like that for a very long time.
Sadly, only one thing is priority for democrats...  regaining power so they can tell you what to do. They have no boundaries or limits, and nothing is sacred  as long as they can generate propaganda and outrage. I suppose when you have no real convictions, this is what you do. It really is sickening. The good of the nation is far down their list, near the bottom in fact. They believe in nothing that they preach, it is all a political tool in their eyes, and they'll twist it and lie in any manner they can.

[CollectivismMustDie]

But flooding the nation with savages...violent criminals, rapists and the like, when they're in power, is just hunky dory.

Cry more DUmmy.