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I just heard that Oregon was sending something like 30 fire trucks to LA to help fight the fires and they were stopped after entering California until all the trucks could get their emissions checked.

Anyone know if this is true?

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I have seen a report to this effect, that Sacto bureaucrats had to approve their use, though whether it was a smog check or something else I didn't see. Goobernor Noisome didn't have the jurisdiction to force LAFD and LAW&P to have adequate firefighting water in the Palisades, but he most certainly has the authority to light fires under state bureaucrats' overly-substantial @$$es and to send CNG troops to affected areas to hinder (or take out) looters (which he did slowly).
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THIS is the specific problem that other states do not have:



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I just heard it was close to 60 fire trucks. If this is true that’s damn near criminal!  I mean seriously, someone is sending help and you’re going to delay it because of emission checks?!  I’m guessing the fires have emitted more pollutants than all these trucks combined would produce in a thousand years.

Insane.

Sounds like someone is simply showing they have some power … of some sort.

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I just heard it was close to 60 fire trucks. If this is true that’s damn near criminal!  I mean seriously, someone is sending help and you’re going to delay it because of emission checks?!  I’m guessing the fires have emitted more pollutants than all these trucks combined would produce in a thousand years.

Insane.

Sounds like someone is simply showing they have some power … of some sort.

KC

It was not for emissions checks.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2025/01/oregon-sends-additional-firefighters-to-california-wildfires.html] in a thousand years.

Insane.

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It was not for emissions checks.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2025/01/oregon-sends-additional-firefighters-to-california-wildfires.html
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It was not for emissions checks.

]https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2025/01/oregon-sends-additional-firefighters-to-california-wildfires.html] in a thousand years.

Insane.

Sounds like someone is simply showing they have some power … of some sort.

KC


It was not for emissions checks.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2025/01/oregon-sends-additional-firefighters-to-california-wildfires.html


I can’t see the website. What was it for?  Is it true they can’t get in?

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I can’t see the website. What was it for?  Is it true they can’t get in?

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Safety checks.
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By Joanna Wilson
Published: Jan. 11, 2025 at 9:39 PM EST|Updated: 15 hours ago
SALEM Ore. (KPTV) - After Oregon sent 300 firefighters and 75 engines to help fight the Los Angeles fires this week, rumors began circulating that equipment and crews had been stopped for California emissions testing.

According to Oregon and California officials, each truck was given a routine safety check in Sacramento to make sure each engine was equipped, mechanically sound, and able to respond.

The Oregon State Fire Marshal said on Friday that the inspection ensures that the safety of firefighters is the top priority as they fight the massive fires.
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3 - 1 million gallon tanks. That do little more than drinking water.

This is LA's water storage site for use in fighting fires.



This is a 117-million-gallon Santa Ynez Reservoir in Pacific Palisades, a key part of LA's water system, that was EMPTY for "repairs" drained just before the wildfire that destroyed thousands of homes.

Who authorized this? Going into a very dry fire season.
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I can’t see the website. What was it for?  Is it true they can’t get in?

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It was for a dei check to ensure that enough were gay or transgender. :-) :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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That tiny 117M gallon reservoir was for Pacific Palisades use, not all of LA. There are multiple reservoirs in the LA area, whose capacities are measured in acre-feet, not mere gallons. E.G. Lake Castaic near Magic Mountain theme park, capacity~250,000 acre-feet.
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Safety checks.


This makes more sense. Thanks!

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That tiny 117M gallon reservoir was for Pacific Palisades use, not all of LA. There are multiple reservoirs in the LA area, whose capacities are measured in acre-feet, not mere gallons. E.G. Lake Castaic near Magic Mountain theme park, capacity~250,000 acre-feet.

So the tiny 117M gallons more than they had when the three 1M gallon tanks ran out wouldn’t be helpful since it wasn’t for all of LA? I bet a lot of firemen, home and business owners would have liked having that tiny 117M gallon reservoir in the Pacific Palisades area.
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So the tiny 117M gallons more than they had when the three 1M gallon tanks ran out wouldn’t be helpful since it wasn’t for all of LA? I bet a lot of firemen, home and business owners would have liked having that tiny 117M gallon reservoir in the Pacific Palisades area.

I was pointing out the difference between that tank and actual reservoirs, nothing more. Please don't "answer" what I did not say.
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How many times does California have to burn every year for them to get a damn clue? Maybe this is the last time but i doubt it with all those DUmmies living there.
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How many times does California have to burn every year for them to get a damn clue?
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Last evening I zoomed in more closely on GoogMaps and saw that Topanga Canyon State Park and Tuna Canyon (state) Park border Pacific Palisades. So it was indeed Goobernor Noisome's California Department of Forestry that failed to clear the brush that fueled the Pacific Palisades fire (despite efforts from LADWP, BTW).

I realize folks have been dumping on Noisome, but I very much dislike false accusations. Also near - and I incorrectly thought, adjoining - Pacific Palisades is a large national recreation area. That would make the US Department of the Interior the ones responsible for brush clearance near Pacific Palisade. That is not the case, BUT, the Eaton Fire (Altadena) and Hurst Fire (Sylmar) started in the Angeles National Forest. So Trump and Noisome both have housecleaning to do: Trump might; Noisome probably won't.
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Having worked as a member of retired National Guard who has helped during natural disasters in uniform and after I retired I find this whole thing in California a disgrace. When I retired from the Guard I became a part of a group of volunteers who would act as a go between for the county and the Guard. When the county resources were either used up or not there they could turn to the National Guard through me or others like me to get help. I have helped with two major floods here in IOWA and both times we had very little in the way of getting anything done that would have required the help of the State itself or from another state. Both times when it flooded the entire western side of Iowa was under water up to the base of the Loess hills which is at least four miles from the river banks normally and those floods lasted all summer.
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