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Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?

Bluesky post by Seth Abramson.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, especially with Trump publicly threatening Canada, Mexico, Panama, Denmark, NATO, the EU—basically anyone he can find besides the actual enemies of the United States.

https://bsky.app/profile/sethabramson.bsky.social/post/3ldzkagb2sc2y

https://bsky.app/profile/daroob.bsky.social/post/3ldzk3tzshs2j




I brought this over because of the following reply to the OP that is tone deaf as hell.


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Don't forget that Joe McCarthy hauled into Congress artists, writers, actors, etc. to threaten them with blacklisting and potentially imprisonment for not "cooperating" with his committee and Roy Cohn. Even President Eisenhower was careful not to get McCarthy mad at him.

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These victims were branded as "Communists" for dissenting against American Fascism in the Thirties. (The American Communist Party published its approval of the dissent, making the McCarthy victims seem tied to communism.)

It COULD happen again. What if your employer were advised that you hate Trump and MAGA? And if you weren't fired, there could be a boycott against your store or business?



They actually posted that. Out loud where everyone can see it. These assholes have been doing JUST THAT for the last 10 freaking years!

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Re: Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2024, 10:21:09 AM »
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Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?

They don’t realize that they are the bad guys. :thatsright:

The fact that Trump won in a landslide should tell them we’re not buying what they are selling.
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Re: Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2024, 10:27:54 AM »
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Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?

I got news for you, Dim'Rat (Since this asinine post didn't come from the DUmp); Y'all have been the baddies since Woodrow ****ing Wilson and Comrade Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Hell; since Andrew Jackson, if y'all want to truly look at the conduct of Dim'Rats in history...
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Re: Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2024, 11:36:52 AM »
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Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?

Bluesky post by Seth Abramson.

Since a majority of American voters rejected the Dems' Trump = Hitler and other stupid Hate-Trump-Hysteria, I think the majority of Americans, possibly including some who voted for Kammie, would resoundingly answer, "No!", with some adding :foff: and/or :killemall: .
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Re: Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2024, 11:47:54 AM »
Although it is from "The Hill", this is actually a good piece written this morning:

Mulvaney on Trump, Panama Canal: It’s a negotiation

Former White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Monday that President-elect Trump’s recent provocations about the U.S. possibly retaking control of the Panama Canal are part of a negotiating tactic to get the rates down.

Mulvaney added, however, that Trump has leverage in the negotiating process because he makes “credible” threats.

“This is a negotiation,” Mulvaney said on NewsNation’s “The Hill” about Trump’s recent Panama remarks, adding, “By the way, one of the reasons Trump is so good at negotiating is that it’s a credible threat.”

“If he says, you know, ‘Look, we’re going to have problems with Panama if they don’t lower the rates,’” Mulvaney continued, “You know, I don’t envision American troops going in to retake the canal, but you got to think that someone is out there scratching their head going, ‘Is Donald Trump crazy enough to do something like that?’”

“And it’s that viable threat that sort of gives him negotiating leverage that not a lot of other folks could ever come up with,” Mulvaney said.

On Sunday, Trump suggested to a conference of his supporters that the Panama Canal be returned to U.S. control, vowing swift action over the matter after he takes office in less than one month.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5054714-mulvaney-trump-panama-canal-negotiation/

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Re: Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2024, 12:01:07 PM »
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...  part of a negotiating tactic to get the rates down.
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... he was and is a successful businessman and marketer. Let it all play out before you judge.

Had Dems and other Progs paid attention during Trump's first term, they would have noticed this in Trump's dealings with Kim III, NATO countries, Xi, etc.. They didn't notice and haven't learned (and won't).
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Re: Are Americans ready to accept that under Trump we may now be the bad guys?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2024, 12:21:30 PM »


The left gets their panties in a bunch (even the women) with every utterance out of Trump's mouth that they fail to understand that he was and is a successful businessman and marketer. Let it all play out before you judge.


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I'm sure that part of Trump's discussion about the Panama Canal is geared towards the lowering of shipping freight rates, but I think the bigger issue he may be considering is the fact that the Canal is currently being administered by a Chinese company.  I won't be surprised to see him put additional pressure on other Western Hemisphere countries to evaluate how deeply embedded the Chinese Government has become in their critical infrastructure.  His goal is to ultimately limit China's influence and control.  The Canal provides a unique opportunity to do a little saber-rattling because, under the treaties which transferred it to Panama, the US retained the right to maintain (and, if necessary, control) the Canal as a National Security asset.