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If there isn't one yet, there should be a Christians for Kamala call.

I like that we are taking back words such as freedom. I love that there are all these separate groups showing support. Christians should do their own call and reclaim Christian from the "Christian Right" and " Christian Nationalists". Look, I am not religious so maybe not for me say, but just a thought.
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This primitive must have done the math and figured that there aren't enough drag queens, trannies, and jew haters to drag Biden's Border Czar's carcass across the finish line.
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2024, 06:51:33 AM »
With her love of abortion and gays I think they will have a hard time convincing a true Christian to vote for her. :thatsright:
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2024, 08:08:25 AM »
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I like that we are taking back words such as freedom.

Freedom, except when it comes to electing your own party's candidate, and a host of other issues.

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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2024, 10:08:58 AM »
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If there isn't one yet, there should be a Christians for Kamala call.

I'm sure plenty of UCC, UMC, ELCA, Episcopal, etc. - mainline Protestants denominations that went full-on Lib/Prog - members have been backing Kammie since she ran for DA of San Francisco. What DU-folk do not realize is that these denominations have been leaking members for decades to the point of bordering on self-destruction.

The Christians DU-folk despise and hate as" "Christian Right" and " Christian Nationalists" are actually trying to be faithful to Christian teaching and practice, including practices DU-grade Progs deem and/or practice as sacred. Most, IMO, of these Christians are going to find Kammie's policies and actions something they oppose. tulipsandroses is wishing for rainbow-pooping unicorns plus backwards-flying black swans.
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2024, 11:43:40 AM »
I don’t understand how a church can welcome gays and other perverts into their church unless they want to repent and live a normal lifestyle. You may increase attendance with them, but you will drive others away.
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2024, 02:37:05 PM »
I don’t understand how a church can welcome gays and other perverts into their church unless they want to repent and live a normal lifestyle. You may increase attendance with them, but you will drive others away.

The denominations I listed above (and a few others) do not accept the Bible as authoritative, except for the few passages that suit their feeeeeeeelings. Some do not require that their clergy believe in a god more personal than rocks-and-trees pantheism.
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2024, 03:27:37 PM »
Well then I don’t think they would qualify as Christian’s. I guess they are the ones that will vote for the democrats
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2024, 09:06:59 PM »
I'm sure plenty of UCC, UMC, ELCA, Episcopal, etc. - mainline Protestants denominations that went full-on Lib/Prog - members have been backing Kammie since she ran for DA of San Francisco. What DU-folk do not realize is that these denominations have been leaking members for decades to the point of bordering on self-destruction.

The Christians DU-folk despise and hate as" "Christian Right" and " Christian Nationalists" are actually trying to be faithful to Christian teaching and practice, including practices DU-grade Progs deem and/or practice as sacred. Most, IMO, of these Christians are going to find Kammie's policies and actions something they oppose. tulipsandroses is wishing for rainbow-pooping unicorns plus backwards-flying black swans.

Mainline Protestants has been in decline for decades. How about since 1950s?

This is still news? Mainline Protestantism, once central in U.S. culture, keeps collapsing
https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2023/9/27/this-is-still-news-mainline-protestantism-once-central-in-us-culture-keeps-collapsing
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2024, 09:22:08 AM »
Mainline Protestants has been in decline for decades. How about since 1950s?

This is still news? Mainline Protestantism, once central in U.S. culture, keeps collapsing
https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2023/9/27/this-is-still-news-mainline-protestantism-once-central-in-us-culture-keeps-collapsing

Think the numbers peaked in the 1960s, probably the first half of the decade. Getting numbers for some denominations in that time period is a little complicated because of mergers, like what became the United Methodist Church and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. Giving reasons for the decline is not, IMO, one single thing.

Compromising on and rejecting Scriptural authority and teachings is part of it, and almost every denomination has had their own path. The two exceptions I know of are the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod and the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. That I know of, WELS never started down the compromise road, while the LCMS started but had a small but noisy split in the 1970s when they did a hard U-turn. The UCC was already well down the road toward rejecting Scripture by the mid 60s, while ELCA's path became confirmed with its 1988 merger of two major Lutheran bodies and a liberal splinter off the LCMS, and more theologically conservative congregations splitting off around that time and soon after.

I think there are general cultural trends in the US that have contributed to mainline decline. Mainline Protestant churches tend to be liturgical and US culture has drifted away from formal ceremony. Many/most mainline Protestant churches have strong centralized authority, while US culture has trended away from conforming to centralized authority. Fancy expensive buildings (Edifice Complex) and vestments don't play well anymore, and even suits and ties not so much. IIRC, the LCMS and WELS are declining very slightly, where other mainline Protestant churches have declined much more significantly, but in a nation whose population is growing, holding steady is the cousin of decline.

On the Evangelical side of US Protestantism, it gets fuzzy. On one hand, the Southern Baptist Church has declined some, while the Assemblies of God denomination has grown some. But what is harder to measure but growing, possibly significantly, is independent Evangelical churches. Much of that growth is transfers from denominations like the SBC, some from Catholicism, some from mainliners, and some who are new believers. Getting stats from independent Evangelical churches is not easy, and some don't really track some stats very closely.
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2024, 04:04:31 PM »
Speaking of drag queens, isn't it ironic that the Ministry of Truth (mainstream media) for the dems has issued "weird" as the word of today for Vance? When I heard the spy shagger Swalwell call Vance "weird and creepy" I laughed so hard coffee came out of my nose.
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2024, 04:15:48 PM »
Like bug eyes, pencil neck adam lying shiftless isn’t creepy  :thatsright:
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Re: Primitive worried drag queen demographic isn't going to be enough
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2024, 04:21:52 PM »
Like bug eyes, pencil neck adam lying shiftless isn’t creepy  :thatsright:

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