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If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« on: July 25, 2024, 07:59:01 AM »
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219234801


FINALLY!  A real ballistics expert weighs in.  This should put this whole debate to rest.

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If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?

His ear would have been a dangling mess and moreover he wouldn’t be alive! Period! The guy behind him was killed! The only logical explanation for the blood was flying glass!

I know what damage that caliber of bullet can do. I was in a field artillery company in the Army. I drove a truck yes, but I move ammunition around to the different areas of Ft Benning, GA. I saw the damage done to targets with only one shot!

The only thing that might have happened for Trump to have a bloody ear? When they Secret Service agents jumped on him? They could have cut his ear? End of story!

Yes, he was shot at and they right and media are talking about is how the bully was shot!


Damn.  I didn't realize they shot Trump with a 105mm!!  Holy hell.

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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2024, 08:16:46 AM »
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A bullet of that caliber?

Are we back into exploding hogs, lungs being blown out and penetrating an engine block BS again?
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2024, 08:27:36 AM »
Needs more cinder blocks and chicken wire.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2024, 08:43:11 AM »
I guess DU-folk just can't handle the reality that Trump survived a very real assassination attempt. Admitting that tends to lead to their 9+ years of demonizing Trump inspiring the attempt, I guess, something they dare not admit, especially to themselves.

5.56 mm is a high velocity load and the human ear is pretty thin (1/4"? a bit less?). I think Trump's injury is not inconsistent with those basics. Maybe a wild hog trapper could rig up a test with a dead hog and a 5.56 mm caliber rifle at 130 yards (i.e. a relatively realistic, chicken-wire-free, test).
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2024, 09:31:04 AM »
I never knew the strength of my targets.

A bullet of that caliber 5.56, 62gr at 100 yards using red dot (Holosun 510C)
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2024, 09:43:07 AM »
Quote from: Crazy Horse on July 25, 2024, 09:31:04 AM
I never knew the strength of my targets.

A bullet of that caliber 5.56, 62gr at 100 yards using red dot (Holosun 510C)

But they would still explode a pig in the DUniverse.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2024, 09:47:31 AM »
A bullet didn't hit him, he was grazed by a bullet. Happens all the time.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2024, 10:38:33 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on July 25, 2024, 08:27:36 AM
Needs more cinder blocks and chicken wire.

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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2024, 01:12:56 PM »
What flying glass? :o
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2024, 01:15:54 PM »
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The only logical explanation for the blood was flying glass!

Flying glass from what? What and where is the source of that "flying glass"?
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2024, 01:44:44 PM »
Ahh, a graduate of the maloney-mccarthy school of firearm education weighs in...
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2024, 03:48:31 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on July 25, 2024, 01:15:54 PM
Flying glass from what? What and where is the source of that "flying glass"?

Early on, they - the MSM bullshit artists - were saying that the bullet struck the glass panel of a Telly-prompter and the flying glass from that is what wounded OrangeManBad.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2024, 04:09:01 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on July 25, 2024, 03:48:31 PM
Early on, they - the MSM bullshit artists - were saying that the bullet struck the glass panel of a Telly-prompter and the flying glass from that is what wounded OrangeManBad.

This article has a slide show of pix from that day (ignore the moronic hoplophobic article), https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/criminologist-shooting-at-trump-rally-yet-another-reason-to-focus-on-assault-weapons/ar-BB1qCQhc#image=4 . The slides show two things: 1. Trump had two teleprompters that day; 2. after Trump was shot, both teleprompters were intact.

This illustrates why facts are Reich-Wing! :-) :tongue:
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2024, 04:57:46 PM »
Let’s look at the facts,
1. He drove a truck
2. He moved ammunition around ft. Bennington Ga.  ( I hope he didn’t hurt himself)
3. A man was killed.
4. 2 others were seriously injured. (By bullets)
5. The assassin allegedly fired 8 rounds.
6. Nothing glass was broken in the vicinity.

So,my logical conclusion is you are a mental midget that cannot comprehend truth or reality and should keep your stupid opinions to yourself.  :thatsright: :mental: :loser: :loser: :loser:
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2024, 12:15:53 AM »
Quote from: Texacon on July 25, 2024, 07:59:01 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219234801


FINALLY!  A real ballistics expert weighs in.  This should put this whole debate to rest.


Damn.  I didn't realize they shot Trump with a 105mm!!  Holy hell.

 :rotf:

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No way that clown served in the Army. I served in the Infantry and saw just as many paper targets get hit. It tells you nothing about what a bullet will do to a human body, nor will any other object shot on a rifle range. Ballistic gelatin on the other hand will show a wound channel and possibly still have the bullet in the gel depending on the bullet and the range it was fired from.  Look at the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtJA9xuzAFE&t=14s

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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2024, 10:35:56 AM »
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He's a bit of a gun aficionado and has serious doubts about the cause of the convicted felon's ear boo boo. He agrees that something like a glass shard is the likely cause. of the ear abrasion.

I'd be curious to hear that conversation.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2024, 10:39:18 AM »
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He's a bit of a gun aficionado and has serious doubts about the cause of the convicted felon's ear boo boo. He agrees that something like a glass shard is the likely cause. of the ear abrasion.

Let me guess. This "therapist" AKA your dealer  is the one who prescribed "medical MJ" right?
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2024, 11:30:02 AM »
This USA Today article, published and updated before Assassination-Denialism became a Dem-Prog-MSM thing, has an annotated aerial pic of the area where the shooter, the stage, and the rally crowd were relative too each other, https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/07/14/trump-shooting-what-happened/74399097007/ . It demonstrates several things:

1. Had the shooter been aiming at the rally crowd to produce mass casualties, Trump would not have been hit. At. All.

2. Had the shooter been aiming at the Trump supporters on stage, for ???? reason(s), Trump would not have been hit unless the shooter's aim was off by several yards.

3. Trump. Was. The. Target. Period. It was an assassination attempt.

4. Further, pictures in the slide-show here, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/criminologist-shooting-at-trump-rally-yet-another-reason-to-focus-on-assault-weapons/ar-BB1qCQhc , prove, as noted above, that while Trump did have two teleprompters, both were still intact after Trump was shot. Trump was not hit by shrapnel from anything close to him.

That these news articles with pictures and diagrams can be found in less than 5 minutes using a mediocre search engine demonstrates how moronically STOOOOOPID these Dem-MSM Assassination-Denialism theories are.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2024, 12:23:30 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on July 26, 2024, 11:30:02 AM
...That these news articles with pictures and diagrams can be found in less than 5 minutes using a mediocre search engine demonstrates how moronically STOOOOOPID these Dem-MSM Assassination-Denialism theories are.

But then, if there were any group of "people" who could be more perfectly suited as the dictionary illustration of "moronically stoooooopid" than the DUmp'Rats, I have yet to encounter them.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2024, 03:53:59 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on July 25, 2024, 03:48:31 PM
Early on, they - the MSM bullshit artists - were saying that the bullet struck the glass panel of a Telly-prompter and the flying glass from that is what wounded OrangeManBad.

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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2024, 03:54:40 PM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on July 26, 2024, 10:39:18 AM
Let me guess. This "therapist" AKA your dealer  is the one who prescribed "medical MJ" right?

Color me shocked that a leftist DUmmy sees a therapist. :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2024, 04:32:34 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on July 26, 2024, 03:54:40 PM
Color me shocked that a leftist DUmmy sees a therapist. :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

Wait until November!  :-)
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2024, 05:22:34 PM »
After I saw Wray's testimony I started to wonder what his DU name is.
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2024, 05:43:42 PM »
Quote from: DUmpDiver on July 26, 2024, 05:22:34 PM
After I saw Wray's testimony I started to wonder what his DU name is.

IHatesTrumpses? FBIPartisan1111?
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Re: If Trump was hit by a bullet of that caliber?
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2024, 06:41:01 PM »
Well, the fbi confirmed today that what struck President Trumps ear was a bullet, whether whole of in pieces.


Dear DUmmies:

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