DUmmy Poll: Who do you think won the debate?

[fatboy]

Polybius (15,838 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 11:38 PM
Who won tonight's debate?
Who do you think won the debate?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219069885

The real question isn't "who thinks Biden won", rather it's which DUmmies that give the thumbs up to President Trump that matters ....enjoy...

Trump won
10 (9%)
Hemi426, HogCaller98, TexasDem69, UniqueUserName, brooklynite, Polybius, Dougal Crans, Shrek, nonconformist, Tribetime

[SVPete]

Just looked, 12 gave the nod to Trump, but I'm not allowed to see names.

brooklynite is among the least insane in DU, and is a political insider. He understands that being unrealistic leads to unpleasant outcomes.

[FlaGator]

Sounds like a ban trap

[Tess Anderson]

brooklynite is among the least insane in DU, and is a political insider. He understands that being unrealistic leads to unpleasant outcomes.

yes, this guy - he is the polar opposite of dummies like TEB/Duncanpup (drunk, angry, irrational) and malaise (emotional to a fault and always wrong).

can't find a post:

https://www.facebook.com/chris.bastian.90
https://twitter.com/chrisbastianbkl

or at the dump - his opinion on how to go from here really matters, he is dem establishment and a big donor

[67 Rover]

I am actually rethinking my 2024 vote.

Only one of these two actually beat Medicare and is definitely going to put a stop to all those awful sister rapes.

We also need to stick it to those thousand billionaires to get us out of debt.

The most eye opening event of the night was that I did not see Trumps wife assist him off the stage last night while saying, “Don! You answered all the questions!”

Tough decision. 

[fatboy]

yes, this guy - he is the polar opposite of dummies like TEB/Duncanpup (drunk, angry, irrational) and malaise (emotional to a fault and always wrong).....

My question to brooklynite is "what is a dazzling old brooklynite doing in a DUmp like this"?

Personally I think he knows they are all mental patients and he gets a superiority complex kick out of annoying them with facts.


REVISED POLLING: Coloradan4Truth, Hemi426, HogCaller98, TexasDem69, UniqueUserName, brooklynite, Polybius, Jspur, TheFarseer, newdayneeded, Trashman272, Dougal Crans, fescuerescue, Shrek, nonconformist, GumboYaYa, Tribetime

[CollectivismMustDie]

There are a lot of DUmmies hiding their vote under 'they were both terrible'.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Sounds like a ban trap

Thought the same thing, which we don't see at the DUmp like we used to.

Brooklynite is one who has enough cred and he's arguing his point thusly:

brooklynite (95,877 posts)
17. "won" in the context of debates is a qualitative term.
Reply to Polybius (Original post)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:01 PM
Trump "won" because he was able to moderate his craziness for the sake of the undecided voter audience.

republianmushroom (14,887 posts)
23. Which side your on determines what side won.

brooklynite (95,877 posts)
24. Nope.
Reply to republianmushroom (Reply #23)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:47 PM
I’m on Biden’s side and he lost in the context of achieving his debate goals.

republianmushroom (14,887 posts)
28. Yup, ask any republican who won.
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #24)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:55 PM
They will tell you the convicted felon did. Ask any Dem who won and they will tell you Biden did.
Neither, any Dem or a republican will change there vote after this debate and an independent is still confused
as who they will vote for declaring neither "won".

brooklynite (95,877 posts)
30. Plenty of Democrats here who don't feel that way.
Reply to republianmushroom (Reply #28)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:59 PM
My mother doesn't feel that way.

People in my Democratic funding circle don't feel that way.

A mailing list of journalists I'm on don't feel that way.

Flash poll of viewers had 67% said Trump won. The pool certainly includes Democrats.

One things I've always done to center my political activity is to accept reality. Biden had an incredibly bad night.

republianmushroom (14,887 posts)
31. Nov. is a long time coming.
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #30)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:09 PM
And is your mother going to vote for the convicted felon and are these others who think the convicted felon "won" is that enough to change their vote or will they not cast a ballot, now ?

brooklynite (95,877 posts)
32. Biden didn't lose any committed voters, but they weren't the audience...
Reply to republianmushroom (Reply #31)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:11 PM
He likely didn't gain any undecided or soft-D voters which he needs to supplement the base.

republianmushroom (14,887 posts)
36. Your mother wasn't a committed voter and soft-D voters will vote for Biden.
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #32)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:27 PM
They are not as dumb as republicans who will vote for the convicted felon.
The choice between the two is staggering. One only has to remember what the trump presidency was like to vote Biden.

brooklynite (95,877 posts)
37. There are a lot of Democratic base voters I know who disagree with you about what the Soft-D voters will do.
Reply to republianmushroom (Reply #36)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:30 PM
A good number of them are here.

republianmushroom (14,887 posts)
38. Well like your mother they have one or two choices.
Reply to brooklynite (Reply #37)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:41 PM
The choice is up to them. But if they think about it there is only one choice.
But then again there are some damn dumb so called Dems that may vote for the convicted felon.
Did you ask your mother who she is now going to vote for and why ? Sounds like she as these soft Dems you speak of are closet republicans.

brooklynite (95,877 posts)
39. OF COURSE SHE'S STILL VOTING FOR BIDEN
Reply to republianmushroom (Reply #38)
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 01:46 PM
She was always voting for Biden. All my friends and political contacts are voting for Biden.

You're missing the point that while THEY are voting for Biden, they're all worried that OTHER people won't vote for Biden and Trump will take back the White House.

[fatboy]

8PM on the east coast update.
Those voting that Biden won:

Biden won
47 (30%)
Rincewind, liberaldiva, Rhiagel, roamer65, Emile, DarthDem, Ex Lurker, ornotna, BenRun, ismnotwasm, suegeo, madashelltoo, JohnQFunk, farmboy, Lithos, LuckyCharms, standingtall, cadoman, nancyfladem, jO456, LetMyPeopleVote, Greybnk48, Eko, 2naSalit, ananda, valleyrogue, WA-03 Democrat, applegrove, Akacia, krawhitham, ems50, SarasotaDem, royable, gopiscrap, DemocraticPatriot, Omaha Steve, Patton French, fierywoman, Lancero, RandomNumbers, ClaireF, obamanut2012, cayugafalls, musette_sf, lpbk2713, RussBLib, Chakaconcarne

Those voting that both were terrible:

They both were terrible
73 (46%)
JadedHippie, SheilaAnn, Stuckinthebush, chillfactor, Itchinjim, Johnny2X2X, nevergiveup, Fearless, LonePirate, Imperialism Inc., Sneederbunk, Raven, LearnedHand, Tree Lady, Metaphorical, Joe Cool, stumpysbear, Dave Bowman, LiberalLoner, ForgoTheConsequence, In It to Win It, Menehuna, RiverStone, beaglelover, Ping Tung, Unitedsquadron, pfitz59, True Dough, nolabear, Green Line, Cattledog, kcoates, mollie8, maveric, LexVegas, demmiblue, gay texan, RJ_MacReady, kcr, Fiendish Thingy, Island Blue, kirby, yourout, kansasobama, Tom Kitten, crazylikafox, Takket, broiles, Groundhawg, BeerBarrelPolka, hedda_foil, ariadne0614, Daveigh, Elessar Zappa, Irish_Dem, rsdsharp, XanaDUer2, Funtatlaguy, Celerity, holka22, Jsmitty79, Jersey Devil, Wavelight, Homoudont, Disaffected, LuckyDude, BajaDoll, Tumbulu, Vinca, Ontheboundry, orange jar, karynnj, Blaukraut


I guess DUmmy republianmushroom got he/him/it so wrapped up in debate with DUmmy brooklynite it forgot to vote.

[SVPete]

Since DU folk HATE Trump, those "Both ..." votes actually mean, "Biden lost and I hate Trump."

[Ralph Wiggum]

Since DU folk HATE Trump, those "Both ..." votes actually mean, "Biden lost and I hate Trump."

I've noticed in the past 36 hours that the collective media, elected democrats, and DUmmies/leftists in general are all over the map in the five stages of grief.

There is denial in that some are still claiming that Joe can solve quadratic equations in his spare time. Some are angry at CNN for not interrupting Trump enough, that the debate even happened, or even their rules (which the Biden camp negotiated). Those in the bargaining and acceptance phases are ones who are rational enough to realize it is time to take away Joe's car keys.

Most are stuck in the depression part, which of course is all the more pleasurable for us to revel in the schaudenfreude.

[FunkyZero]

I've noticed in the past 36 hours that the collective media, elected democrats, and DUmmies/leftists in general are all over the map in the five stages of grief.

There is denial in that some are still claiming that Joe can solve quadratic equations in his spare time. Some are angry at CNN for not interrupting Trump enough, that the debate even happened, or even their rules (which the Biden camp negotiated). Those in the bargaining and acceptance phases are ones who are rational enough to realize it is time to take away Joe's car keys.

Most are stuck in the depression part, which of course is all the more pleasurable for us to revel in the schaudenfreude.

I haven't been rounding the internet much, mainly just the DUmp...  but over there, they've done their usual at this point and fallen back on  what they always do, which is whistling past the graveyard and blaming everyone from CNN to Pedo-Joe's prep team.

[Old n Grumpy]

Even all the pro Biden pundits on the mainstream media are admitting he’s toast. It’s really fun watching them eat crow.

[Old n Grumpy]

I think the real winner was Kennedy, he didn’t have to waste several hours of his life on that silly event.

[Rebel]

applegrove (119,719 posts)
10. He beat Trump because he told the truth all along.

Really? So he took over a huge problem with inflation? That huge ass 1.4% he inherited? He "created" millions of jobs when those were jobs recovered after HIS directed lockdowns? Lost no troops under his watch? The Border Patrol Union endorsed him?

Tell me you're a partisan piece of shit without telling me.

[SVPete]

Really? So he took over a huge problem with inflation? That huge ass 1.4% he inherited? He "created" millions of jobs when those were jobs recovered after HIS directed lockdowns? Lost no troops under his watch? The Border Patrol Union endorsed him?

Tell me you're a partisan piece of shit without telling me.

Don't forget the Charlottesville Lie that even Snopes, years late, https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/ , admitted is a lie.

[Delmar]

Don't forget the Charlottesville Lie that even Snopes, years late, https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/ , admitted is a lie.

And not just Snopes, but moderator Jake Tapper himself.  He sat there in silence knowing Biden was lying and let him get away with it.

CNN’s Jake Tapper Admits: Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis ‘Very Fine People’ in Charlottesville

CNN anchor Jake Tapper admitted Friday that President Donald Trump did not refer to neo-Nazis or white supremacists as “very fine people” in his remarks about the Charlottesville, Virginia, riots in 2017.

The admission came as Tapper and his CNN panel discussed former vice president Joe Biden’s campaign launch video, released Thursday, in which Biden explicitly claimed that Trump had referred to the neo-Nazis as “very fine people.”

Tapper described that portion of the press conference: “Now, elsewhere in those remarks, Trump did condemn neo-Nazis and white supremacists. So he’s not saying that the neo-Nazis and white supremacists are very fine people.”

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/04/27/cnn-jake-tapper-admits-trump-did-not-call-neo-nazis-very-fine-people-in-charlottesville/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1XwhYo17V1r6oXvUcdjBwh-cYLlPH7A-2CtP-CTuLqcRPqqgX0ru4zcDk_aem_G9zWXxhO3boiwDTSG4stdQ

[Ralph Wiggum]

And not just Snopes, but moderator Jake Tapper himself.  He sat there in silence knowing Biden was lying and let him get away with it.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/04/27/cnn-jake-tapper-admits-trump-did-not-call-neo-nazis-very-fine-people-in-charlottesville/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1XwhYo17V1r6oXvUcdjBwh-cYLlPH7A-2CtP-CTuLqcRPqqgX0ru4zcDk_aem_G9zWXxhO3boiwDTSG4stdQ

Have been finding the whole aftermath absolutely ****ing amusing. Immediately the typical print suspects (NY Slimes/WA Po) were deflecting from Joe's shitstorm of a performance and his volumes of lies to about how many "lies" that President Trump supposedly uttered. When everything they claim to be a lie has been debunked if one were to veer away from leftist media.

And this damn pearl clutching over January 6th is getting WAY too tiresome. Bringing that subject further into public discourse just placates the leftist sycophants and doesn't win new voters who actually have a brain and a pulse. We all know that a bunch of rabble rousers got out hand on 1/6/21, and shouldn't have done so. Trump didn't order them in, he requested those who do participate do so peacefully.

If you were to ask a garden variety lib how many police officers were killed on January 6th, 2021, they'd probably say 5 or 6 or 70 rather than the actual total of ZERO point ZERO. Pretty much the same uninformed libs who think that thousands of unarmed black men are killed by the police every year, rather than the 6-12 in actuality.

[SVPete]

And not just Snopes, but moderator Jake Tapper himself.  He sat there in silence knowing Biden was lying and let him get away with it.
...

To be fair to Bash and Tapper, they didn't factcheck Trump or Biden, as CNN said in advance they would not do. DU-grade Progs were POed before the debate that Trump would not be singled out for "factchecking", and even more so after, even though most Trump "lies" were opinions Progs disagree with, reasonable hyperbole, or sarcasm Progs dishonestly claimed was literal. Of course, those same Progs are too ignorant or confirmation-biased to recognize LIEden's whoppers.

[Delmar]

To be fair to Bash and Tapper, they didn't factcheck Trump or Biden, as CNN said in advance they would not do. DU-grade Progs were POed before the debate that Trump would not be singled out for "factchecking", and even more so after, even though most Trump "lies" were opinions Progs disagree with, reasonable hyperbole, or sarcasm Progs dishonestly claimed was literal. Of course, those same Progs are too ignorant or confirmation-biased to recognize LIEden's whoppers.

You're right about that but you'd think that somebody from CNN would've warned Biden to ixnay on the Arlottesville-chay for just one night.

I'm sure Biden will do better in the next debate--but I'd suggest that this time he takes two weeks off from his job to prepare for it.

[DefiantSix]

You're right about that but you'd think that somebody from CNN would've warned Biden to ixnay on the Arlottesville-chay for just one night.

I'm sure Biden will do better in the next debate--but I'd suggest that this time he takes two weeks off from his job to prepare for it.

SpongeBrainShitPants is so far gone, that it wouldn't have done a bit of good to warn him what not to say. That would have just been the next thing he went off script to harp on...