Memorial Day Moling

[BamaMoose]

The OP is a nice reflection on the meaning of Memorial Day and a pleasant reminder that Europe still remembers the US WWI and WWII dead.

GoneOffShore (17,351 posts)

Memorial Day thoughts from France.
Today is not a holiday in France. The memories of World War One and World War Two are not as distant here, because it is still possible to see the evidence of those times in certain places. VE Day - 8 May is celebrated, as is Armistice Day - 11 November. The sense of being closer to those conflicts is ever present. These are solemn occasions, not marked with 'Armistice Day Specials!' in stores or 'VE Day Sales'.
A friend of mine, living in Paris, yesterday went, along with other American veterans, members of the American Legion's Paris Post 1, to various American war cemeteries to honour their fallen comrades. He went to the Aisne-Marne cemetery, which sits at the foot of the WWI Belleau Wood battle site and contains the remains of 2,289 American war dead, and the nearby Oise-Aisne cemetery, which contains the remains of 6,013 American war dead.
At the Aisne-Marne cemetery, the tradition is to take the Paris Post 1 wreath and place it on the grave of one of the fallen.

The Eric Bogle song, No Man's Land (Green Fields of France) is appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VD84SLW8I&t=99s

But then some serious moling occurs:

Leland Ray (6 posts)

1. Memorial day is white supremacy.

WWII was white supremacy. Obviously Germany murdering jews and invading other nations. And the US attacking Japan. All white supremacy.

All wars can be traced to white supremacy.

Shiny Happy Person (1 post)

2. Look deep and see that this is correct

It might be easy at first to dismiss the OP as making a facile generalization in saying that "all" wars can be traced to white supremacy. But it's pretty much spot-on. Of course, MAGA types will immediately go racial and point out wars like the civil war in Rwanda. But right below the surface of even that war you'll find toxic whiteness being enacted by Hutu and Tutsi alike, both in their privileging of white militarism over long-standing peaceful indigenous conflict resolution strategies, and in the overt support given by white colonialists whose interests were served by the genocide of a people.

Memorial Day should be a time of land acknowledgment wherever whites gather for a holiday barbecue. It is important to remember that their barbecues are taking place on land that was not only stolen from indigenous people, but also has been repurposed as a tool of continuing oppression of BIPOC and LGBTQIA2S+ persons. For shame!

Whoever made these posts has obviously been reading DU for a while and found out just how many of them hate our military (and our country).  They got America bad, white man bad, but they missed orange man bad.  But I'm sure WWI and WWII were Trump's fault somehow.  I wish they had saved for these posts for one of the other OP's bashing the US, because this OP was remarkably respectful.  This response is delusional:

pfitz59 (10,473 posts)

4. Your first post is a sweeping generalization along racial lines?

Blanket condemnations and generalizations get short shrift on DU. We try to stick with facts, not feelings. Occasionally DU gets 'disrupters' who like to stir up the hive mind. They are usually found out, post haste

Racist generalizations?  Blanket condemnations? Feelings, not facts?  That covers about 99% of the posts on DU.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218980863

[Old n Grumpy]

13 replies and they haven’t blamed Trump 

[Patriot Guard Rider]

13 replies and they haven’t blamed Trump 

Patience grasshopper, patience..

[SVPete]

Concur. The DU OP was a thoughtful post. There also are areas in France that are still off-limits to civilians due to unexploded WW1 ammunition and contamination. That also is a reminder of the wars for France.

But a DU-Noob had to go full-stupid with race-baiting:

Leland Ray (6 posts)

1. Memorial day is white supremacy.

WWII was white supremacy. Obviously Germany murdering jews and invading other nations 1.. And the US attacking Japan 2.. All white supremacy.

All wars can be traced to white supremacy. 3.

1. French, Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Russians, and Ukrainians are POC? Who knew?

2. Ummmmmmm ... the attack on Pearl Harbor ... two battlships and several other ships destroyed ... ~2400 Americans killed, including scores or hundreds of POC.

3. Ummmmmmm ... OK. Try reconciling that claim with the First and Second Sino-Japanese Wars. Try reconciling the claim with the many Pre-Columbian inter-tribals wars in North, Central, and South America. Etc., etc., etc., ...

[SVPete]

pfitz59 (10,473 posts)

4. Your first post is a sweeping generalization along racial lines?

Blanket condemnations and generalizations get short shrift on DU. We try to stick with facts, not feelings. Occasionally DU gets 'disrupters' who like to stir up the hive mind. They are usually found out, post haste

Not being omniscient, I cannot say that the two Noobs cannot be moles. But it is far more likely that they are Proggier-Than-Thou race-baiters. IOW, they are just a little more extreme than mal or Cyanose.

[USA4ME]

Duers get upset when some noob comes along and says out loud what most of them also believe but are only willing to say in a coded message.

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