classic primitive doesn't understand people

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=281x1000

Oh my.

This is an old bonfire, but it's still smoldering.

classicfilmfan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 03:15 PM
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Do any of you just not understand people?
   
I'm a fairly quiet person, don't speak out too often and don't really like to stir up sh*t. But for the past few years I have been having trouble with hostile people at my workplaces. These people are loud, yell at me for doing things that others do with no problems. In most cases they are much younger than me (20s, I'm in my early 40s). I feel I'm back in school with the f*cking bullies all over again!

The always-helpful hypochondrial frog primitive:

HypnoToad  (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-05-06 01:40 PM
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1. I have difficulties understanding people.
   
Body language (though improving)

I'm pretty fair with enunciation and inflection at this point\

I still take everything literally, so I often miss jokes.

I still often look at others to get a cue as to the apropos emotional response and then mimick it.

Being an Aspie does have its drawbacks.

As your situation is recent and not stemming as far back as early development, you may have some sort of depression or anxiety problem. I do not know.

raccoon  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-07-06 03:00 PM
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2. Sounds like there's a possibility you are a target of workplace bullying. (Swedes call it workplace mobbing.) Specially since you're older than the rest of the crowd.

Document document document all this shit. And keep the documentation at your house.

Research workplace bullying on the Internet. There's a lot of info.

mainegreen  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-08-06 12:04 PM
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3. Usually the other way round for me.
   
Often I'll say something that makes perfect sense to me, and all I get is blank stares.

Your work environment sounds awful. Perhaps you have bad managers there? Can you switch jobs or to a new dept?

Yeah, usually telling bouncies and stretchies does cause blank stares in other people.

LWolf  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-13-06 02:12 PM
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5. I concur.
   
I understand other people; I don't necessarily relate, but I understand.

They don't understand me.

Nay  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 07:07 PM
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14. Same here, LWolf. I understand others only too well. It's why I'm a loner, actually. They don't understand me, that's for sure. I don't buy into much of the prevailing culture, and am still considered a FREAK for not watching every inane TV show that comes by. Yeah, I like a couple of shows (Dexter, Sopranos, X-files, Rome) but most of it is drek.

franksolich doesn't buy much into the prevailing culture either, and franksolich is rarely lonely.

supernova  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-14-06 04:05 PM
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6. I can relate
   
I get a lot of blank stares and as I've grown older I've made more of an effort to explain my thinking, but it's not easy and really drains me.

As for other people, there are some social rituals I find hard, like flirting for example. I'm much more aroused by sincere discussion of the arts or politics or just metaphysical stuff.

smirkymonkey  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-24-06 08:50 PM
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8. Same here - the older I get, the less I can tolerate "small talk" and "flirting" - it always seems somehow manipulative to me. Like you aren't truly relating to each other, but engaging in some sort of "social dance" for which I have increasingly little tolerance.

I think that's my problem with most people - they don't really want to relate and most of them are perfectly happy with platitudes and shallow acquaintances (that they call "friends") - I just find that unless I am really connecting with someone, they aren't worth the effort of having to engage in discussion.

Oh.  So the classic primitive's a telemarketer:

classicfilmfan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-09-06 10:49 PM
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4. Update
   
After working a week at the new job, things are a little better. I've made friends with most of the younger people who are not bosses, and they are not cool with the guy and his bullying (to be fair, I've witnessed him doing the same thing to them since my own troubles. It ticks them off just as much). I imagine that I've also been given a reprieve since I answer the most phone calls and make this self-proclaimed two-time Bush voter look better than the others with no call center experience. I also only see him three days out of five, so as long as he mostly leaves me alone, I'm going to stay.

Skittles  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-16-06 10:51 PM
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7. I read people like books
   
grew up as a GI brat, moved constantly.....knowing people makes me want to be alone

amandae  (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-07-06 03:02 PM
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10. Except for the GI brat thing, ditto.
   
The more I know about people, the less I want to be around them.

One suspects the more people know about the amoeba primitive, the less people want to be around her.

[Carl]

As always the complete story has been left out so as to focus on the "woe is me" tale.

There is no doubt in my mind that these folks who whine about how they get blank stares and mistreated are simply ravening loons who spout off troofer conspiracies,never quit talking about how the 2000 and 2004 election was stolen and so on.
They make no attempt to hide their contempt for all around them,proclaiming them as stupid for not agreeing whole heartedly with the politics they work into every conversation or discussion.

DUmmies will never fit into normal society because they are not.
Inevitably they return to the island to spin their tales and pat each other on the back.

[FlaGator]

One suspects that they are intentionally making the relationship thing more difficult than it actually is in order to feel like they are being marginalized. It's like a reversed case of 'delusions of grandeur'. They think little of themselves so they what to believe that others do to. It's their own little way of feeling special.

[JohnnyReb]

The work place can be hell when you're the oldest burger flipper in the joint.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The work place can be hell when you're the oldest burger flipper in the joint.

To most folks, working in a call center is a rung or two below burger-flipper.  Bosses in such operations are notorious assholes regardless of their politics, it kind of goes with the line of work.  Can't imagine why a 40+ year old hasn't figured that out yet. 

[jukin]

Take solace that you have stumbled on to almost 5000 people just as screwed up as you are.

[Uhhuh35]

The OP classic primitive sounds like a wimp who has never stood up for himself.

[GOBUCKS]

Wow. If  one harbors any doubt about the DUmp being a collection of weirdos, wackos, dropouts, losers and loners, one needs only to scan this thread. Then consider that this many misfits stumbled onto this thread in a remote, sparsely populated corner of the refuse heap. It's sort of unsettling to realize that, out in the open expanses of the landfill, where the bulldozers and seagulls make their living, the teeming, squirming hordes of DUmmies are no more balanced.

Good catch, Coach.

[EastFacingNorth]

The work place can be hell when you're the oldest burger flipper in the joint.

To most folks, working in a call center is a rung or two below burger-flipper.  Bosses in such operations are notorious assholes regardless of their politics, it kind of goes with the line of work.  Can't imagine why a 40+ year old hasn't figured that out yet. 

Possibly he's good at it.  I've worked in call centers, both sales and technical support.  Tech support is a job I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy, but when I was telemarketing, I was living pretty damn conmfortably for someone with nothing but a high-school diploma.  If you can make the sales, and if you can live with yourself, telemarketing is an okay job.

[Chris_]

   Allow me to call bullshit on this:

How does:

classicfilmfan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-04-06 03:15 PM
Original message

Do any of you just not understand people?
   
I'm a fairly quiet person, don't speak out too often and don't really like to stir up sh*t. But for the past few years I have been having trouble with hostile people at my workplaces. These people are loud, yell at me for doing things that others do with no problems. In most cases they are much younger than me (20s, I'm in my early 40s). I feel I'm back in school with the f*cking bullies all over again!

Jive with this:

classicfilmfan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-09-06 10:49 PM
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4. Update
   
After working a week at the new job, things are a little better. I've made friends with most of the younger people who are not bosses, and they are not cool with the guy and his bullying (to be fair, I've witnessed him doing the same thing to them since my own troubles. It ticks them off just as much). I imagine that I've also been given a reprieve since I answer the most phone calls and make this self-proclaimed two-time Bush voter look better than the others with no call center experience. I also only see him three days out of five, so as long as he mostly leaves me alone, I'm going to stay.

WTF?  Is this guy following you around from job to job?  Or is he just typical of the type you engender hostile feelings within?

Got news for ya dipshit.  If you can roam from job to job and still run into the same problem, chances are it's you.

[JohnnyReb]

The work place can be hell when you're the oldest burger flipper in the joint.

To most folks, working in a call center is a rung or two below burger-flipper.  Bosses in such operations are notorious assholes regardless of their politics, it kind of goes with the line of work.  Can't imagine why a 40+ year old hasn't figured that out yet. 

Possibly he's good at it.  I've worked in call centers, both sales and technical support.  Tech support is a job I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy, but when I was telemarketing, I was living pretty damn conmfortably for someone with nothing but a high-school diploma.  If you can make the sales, and if you can live with yourself, telemarketing is an okay job.

Uh-oh! You're probably one of the thousands I've hung up on.......or dropped in the trash can.