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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2008, 08:44:36 AM »
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.   

It's a common phrase.   This reminds me of something that happened on NU.  A ROC poster through out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"  after an LOC asked a loaded question.   The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!".   There was a callout in the Fight Club.   It was crazy.

The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is started to sound like "hands off the girl".   It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.   

There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.

Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works.   Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.

I tend to agree but the only part that bothers me about it was how the people reacted.  They thought he was talking about Palin (in my opinion), he got a standing ovation. 

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2008, 09:11:29 AM »
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.   

It's a common phrase.   This reminds me of something that happened on NU.  A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"  after an LOC asked a loaded question.   The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!".   There was a callout in the Fight Club.   It was crazy.

The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl".   It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.   

There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.

Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works.   Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.

Hmmmmm I don't know about the 'old' saying.  As it was handed down where I grew up it was "You can put a dress on a pig but it is still a pig".

With 'O' using the word lipstick it seemed more like a jab to me.  Maybe it is more a regional thing and how you were raised with the saying.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2008, 09:14:07 AM »
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.   

It's a common phrase.   This reminds me of something that happened on NU.  A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"  after an LOC asked a loaded question.   The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!".   There was a callout in the Fight Club.   It was crazy.

The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl".   It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.   

There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.

Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works.   Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.

Hmmmmm I don't know about the 'old' saying.  As it was handed down where I grew up it was "You can put a dress on a pig but it is still a pig".

With 'O' using the word lipstick it seemed more like a jab to me.  Maybe it is more a regional thing and how you were raised with the saying.

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I've always heard it with lipstick, not dress.  *shrug*
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2008, 09:17:12 AM »
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.   

It's a common phrase.   This reminds me of something that happened on NU.  A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"  after an LOC asked a loaded question.   The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!".   There was a callout in the Fight Club.   It was crazy.

The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl".   It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.   

There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.

Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works.   Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.

Hmmmmm I don't know about the 'old' saying.  As it was handed down where I grew up it was "You can put a dress on a pig but it is still a pig".

With 'O' using the word lipstick it seemed more like a jab to me.  Maybe it is more a regional thing and how you were raised with the saying.

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I've always heard it with lipstick, not dress.  *shrug*

I've heard it both ways.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2008, 09:19:51 AM »
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.   

It's a common phrase.   This reminds me of something that happened on NU.  A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"  after an LOC asked a loaded question.   The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!".   There was a callout in the Fight Club.   It was crazy.

The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl".   It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.   

There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.

Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works.   Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.

if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?

yep.  national uproar.  allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)).  a call for john mccain's head on a pike.  2 weeks of MSM outrage.  look, politics ain't always fair.  I say run with it.

not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.


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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2008, 09:29:57 AM »
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.   

It's a common phrase.   This reminds me of something that happened on NU.  A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"  after an LOC asked a loaded question.   The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!".   There was a callout in the Fight Club.   It was crazy.

The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl".   It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.   

There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.

Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works.   Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.

if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?

yep.  national uproar.  allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)).  a call for john mccain's head on a pike.  2 weeks of MSM outrage.  look, politics ain't always fair.  I say run with it.

not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.



Did he really say that?   :o

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2008, 09:31:39 AM »
if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?

yep.  national uproar.  allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)).  a call for john mccain's head on a pike.  2 weeks of MSM outrage.  look, politics ain't always fair.  I say run with it.

not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.


Oh I agree if McCain did something like that the outrage would not be contained.  Someone on another board said what if McCain said "Monkey see, Monkey do" about Obama marching in lock step with the dems.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2008, 09:32:38 AM »
if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?

yep.  national uproar.  allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)).  a call for john mccain's head on a pike.  2 weeks of MSM outrage.  look, politics ain't always fair.  I say run with it.

not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.


Oh I agree if McCain did something like that the outrage would not be contained.  Someone on another board said what if McCain said "Monkey see, Monkey do" about Obama marching in lock step with the dems.

Good analogy.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2008, 09:48:48 AM »
It was an incredibly stupid metaphor to use but I don't think Obama intended to call Palin a pig.   

It's a common phrase.   This reminds me of something that happened on NU.  A ROC poster threw out the question "Have you stopped beating your wife lately?"  after an LOC asked a loaded question.   The LOC poster went ballistic saying "HOW DARE YOU BRING MY FAMILY INTO THIS???!!!!!!".   There was a callout in the Fight Club.   It was crazy.

The thing that bothers me about this strategy is that, it is starting to sound like "hands off the girl".   It's like the right taking a page out of the lefty book, let's look for offense anywhere we find it.   

There is a lot for the McCain/Palin campaign to be upset about, with regard to the crap about Palin's family and even going over all the expense records with a fine tooth comb, but this phrase is not really one of them.

Now I'll argue out of the other side of my mouth.. :-)
Apparently with FOX and others picking up on this, it could be a strategy that works.   Because it is a play straight out of the lefty play book, it's hard for them fight against it.

if the roles were reversed, and john mccain had made a lipstick on a pig comment 6 days after hypothetical democratic vice presidential nominee hillary clinton had made a lipstick remark in reference to herself in a major, nationally televised speech, what do you think would be happening right now?

yep.  national uproar.  allegations of everything from sexism to pigism ( :-)).  a call for john mccain's head on a pike.  2 weeks of MSM outrage.  look, politics ain't always fair.  I say run with it.

not to mention the fact that The BarackStar!'s "sweetiegate" remarks, and his observation that hillary might nuke pakistan because she was PMSing, all give the broader conversation a bit of resonance.



Did he really say that?   :o

he made some remark about her judgment being effected when she was "feeling sad and blue".  but no, it wasn't specifically about nuking pakistan.  i was exaggerating a little bit.   :-)

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2008, 09:56:06 AM »
he made some remark about her judgment being effected when she was "feeling sad and blue".  but no, it wasn't specifically about nuking pakistan.  i was exaggerating a little bit.   :-)


I hope he keeps on this attack vector for the rest of the campaign.  Teh BarackStar! has focused on Sarah Palin to the exclusion of all else, even the fact that SHE ISN'T RUNNING AGAINST HIM.  MCCAIN IS

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2008, 10:07:58 AM »
he made some remark about her judgment being effected when she was "feeling sad and blue".  but no, it wasn't specifically about nuking pakistan.  i was exaggerating a little bit.   :-)


I hope he keeps on this attack vector for the rest of the campaign.  Teh BarackStar! has focused on Sarah Palin to the exclusion of all else, even the fact that SHE ISN'T RUNNING AGAINST HIM.  MCCAIN IS

OhnoesBama is what happens when a DUmmy comes out of momma's basement to run for office.   :-)

he can't win for losing.  yesterday, he tried to change the subject from his "Sarah Obsession" to education, and the mccain campaign jacked him up with ad ad about sex education for kindergartners.  I posted the youtube video in this forum.


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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2008, 10:11:59 AM »
Did you see him on O'Reilly, saying about Bill Ayers - "What he did was 40 years ago".
Like that makes it ok.

Yeah, and the f***er still gets his jollies off thinking about it.
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2008, 02:40:55 PM »
Ok we all know about the pig reference, but lets go onto the bolded line. Remember that Todd Palin was a commercial salmon fisherman, if thats pointed out it destroys osamabamas excuse that he wasn't talking about her.  :thatsright:

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2008, 02:45:55 PM »
Oh, Barack Hussein Obama meant it, it was one of his ha-ha-ha inside jokes he tells to his suck-up buddies in the MSM. He sure didn't seem sorry that some took this remarks that way, you think he'd at least say he was misunderstood and claify what he really meant.

But he did his predictable thing and whined some more. This is amateur politics done by an amateur. President McCain, VP Sarah Palin.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2008, 03:08:04 PM »
The McCain ad on this is so quiet.  Just Her, him, and a comment from a MSM type about how tough it is for women to be respected.   

I think Fred Thompson is helping with the ads.  His were pretty high class.
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2008, 03:26:15 PM »
I didn't have a problem with the old adage that the Obamassiah used. What's more funny (odd) is that the people he was speaking to thought it was actually ABOUT Palin. That just goes to show how stupid the Dems are. They have ZERO knowledge about old sayings. They take it in the context they want to assume it's meant. It WAS quite stupid for Obama to use that adage at the moment, even though he may have thought it was appropriate.
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2008, 05:19:14 PM »
I didn't have a problem with the old adage that the Obamassiah used. What's more funny (odd) is that the people he was speaking to thought it was actually ABOUT Palin. That just goes to show how stupid the Dems are. They have ZERO knowledge about old sayings. They take it in the context they want to assume it's meant. It WAS quite stupid for Obama to use that adage at the moment, even though he may have thought it was appropriate.

Before Obama was even able to finish the stupid comment...the people in the back were applauding and standing.  They CLEARLY thought the comment was about Palin and Barrack was smirking..he could very well justify the statement by claiming it was not what he meant.  He's too stupid to retract it or stay he misspoke...that would require integrity.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2008, 05:37:54 PM »
I didn't have a problem with the old adage that the Obamassiah used. What's more funny (odd) is that the people he was speaking to thought it was actually ABOUT Palin. That just goes to show how stupid the Dems are. They have ZERO knowledge about old sayings. They take it in the context they want to assume it's meant. It WAS quite stupid for Obama to use that adage at the moment, even though he may have thought it was appropriate.

Before Obama was even able to finish the stupid comment...the people in the back were applauding and standing.  They CLEARLY thought the comment was about Palin and Barrack was smirking..he could very well justify the statement by claiming it was not what he meant.  He's too stupid to retract it or stay he misspoke...that would require integrity.


At least it would have been more believable than what he did say... ::)
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2008, 05:59:10 PM »
Isn't it funny how the media crowed over every minor mistake Pres. Bush made, but is deaf, absolutely deaf, when Obama opens his mouth and shoves both feet in?   ::)
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2008, 06:04:54 PM »
Isn't it funny how the media crowed over every minor mistake Pres. Bush made, but is deaf, absolutely deaf, when Obama opens his mouth and shoves both feet in?   ::)

The :suckup: bestowed on the annointed one is being noticed by more and more Americans.  Eventually, they'll have to come up for air and realize the rest of the world is not as enamoured.
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2008, 06:47:15 PM »
After listening to the whole clip over and over again - Im pretty sure it was intentional - Listen for the Pause. after he delivers the put lipstick on a pig' line, he waits for the reaction - and then finishes off.

Ive also been observing "Teh Messiah", and he has a tell. When he may be at risk he wipes his brow. Watch his speeches where he makes a comment that he may be called on later - his hand goes right to his forehead.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2008, 07:36:39 PM »
I'd be a little disturbed if anyone here was truely shocked at Teh Obamessiah's calling Sarah Palin a pig.  After all, Marxists have been reserving that term of endearment for thier opponents for almost 150 years. Sarah is among honored company.
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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2008, 08:19:49 PM »
After listening to the whole clip over and over again - Im pretty sure it was intentional - Listen for the Pause. after he delivers the put lipstick on a pig' line, he waits for the reaction - and then finishes off.

Ive also been observing "Teh Messiah", and he has a tell. When he may be at risk he wipes his brow. Watch his speeches where he makes a comment that he may be called on later - his hand goes right to his forehead.

the pause could have been an "oh, shit" moment, where he realized that he probably just stepped in it, but couldn't (or didn't know how to) extricate himself from the problem that his mouth had gotten him into.

not arguing that it wasn't intentional, that's just an alternate explanation.

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Re: Obama on Palin: Lipstick on a pig is still a pig
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2008, 08:27:21 PM »
After listening to the whole clip over and over again - Im pretty sure it was intentional - Listen for the Pause. after he delivers the put lipstick on a pig' line, he waits for the reaction - and then finishes off.

Ive also been observing "Teh Messiah", and he has a tell. When he may be at risk he wipes his brow. Watch his speeches where he makes a comment that he may be called on later - his hand goes right to his forehead.

the pause could have been an "oh, shit" moment, where he realized that he probably just stepped in it, but couldn't (or didn't know how to) extricate himself from the problem that his mouth had gotten him into.

not arguing that it wasn't intentional, that's just an alternate explanation.

To come back angry and pissy pretty much tells us what the messi-uh is tinking.
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