27 buses carrying migrants arrive in Chicago since Saturday as city moves forwar

[Texacon]

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Eugene (58,886 posts)


27 buses carrying migrants arrive in Chicago since Saturday as city moves forward with tent plan

Source: Chicago Tribune

27 buses carrying migrants arrive in Chicago since Saturday as city moves forward with tent plan

Nell Salzman and Alice Yin, Chicago Tribune
Wed, September 27, 2023 at 9:48 PM EDT·5 min read

CHICAGO — Osvalgo Montilla, 57, got off a charter bus in Chicago’s West Loop Wednesday afternoon after trekking thousands of miles from Venezuela, thinking about his wife of 25 years who was in a detention facility in Del Rio, Texas.

Montilla, a pharmacist in his home country with three grown children, had traveled to the United States and sat on a bus for 20 hours. But he was most worried about his wife, who he hadn’t seen in five days. When the couple entered the U.S. on Sept. 22, his wife, like thousands of other migrants, was arbitrarily selected to be put in a detention facility.

“Here there is employment. I want to grow — economically and personally,” he said in Spanish. “But my biggest worry is finding my wife.”

He wasn’t sure when or how he would reconnect with her.

Montilla is just one of the hundreds of new migrants who have arrived in Chicago in the past week with an uncertain future, as the number of asylum-seekers has surpassed 15,000 with the arrival of 27 buses since Saturday, including seven on Wednesday. With the city running out of room to house them — as thousands sleep on police station floors and at airports awaiting shelter placement — Mayor Brandon Johnson on Wednesday defended his administration’s decision to contract with a private security firm to help place the new asylum-seekers in base camps before winter.

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Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/27-buses-carrying-migrants-arrive-014800940.html

Brand new thread.  I just want to park this here so I can check on it later.

Interesting ... sounds like the Biden administration is *gasp* separating families!!  Plus I've read there are thousands of kids missing!  Not to mention, I'm hearing that Chicago is yet another blue city that is busing these illegals to other towns while decrying Texas busing them to Chicago.

I'm thinking no one will touch this thread, but we'll see.

KC

[Old n Grumpy]

Just another tear jerker story to make you feel bad for the invaders 

[Texacon]

I found this paragraph in the article interesting.

New York has seen surging numbers sent by the Texas governor, overwhelming the city’s homeless shelter system. Denver has resorted to buying one-way Greyhound and Amtrak tickets to other cities for recent arrivals.

KC

[67 Rover]

Growing poppies and making Fentanyl does not make you a Pharmacist.   

[Ralph Wiggum]

If the Republican Party was any good at speaking, one of the candidates should start calling places such as Chicago, Washington D.C., Philadelphia, Los Angeles, et al as "Biden-villes". Even Sharter Joe likes to come up with portmanteau's such as Bidenomics and Ultra-MAGA.

[SVPete]

 

El Paso has been getting 2000 illegals a day! Every day! Suck it up and put your $$ and shelters where your mouth is, virtue-signalling sanctuary cities!

[Old n Grumpy]

They need to start using the trains buses can’t move enough of them fast enough.

[Texacon]

As expected, that thread dropped like a rock!

They absolutely don’t want to talk about the problems unless they can figure out a good way to spin it. They can’t find it on the border issues.

KC

[enslaved1]

From the article.

Meanwhile, Montilla paced up and down on the sidewalk, waiting to board the yellow school bus to spend the night at a police station.

“Venezuela used to be such a rich country — in oil, tourism, health care, everything,” he said. “Chicago reminds me of a Venezuela of the past.”

[USA4ME]

“Chicago reminds me of a Venezuela of the past.”

HA! Hugo Chavez has nothing on Democrats. If you saw misery in Venezuela, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

.

[SVPete]

As expected, that thread dropped like a rock!

They absolutely don’t want to talk about the problems unless they can figure out a good way to spin it. They can’t find it on the border issues.

KC

A day later, still just 1 Reply. I think at least some DU-folk "get" the hypocrisy of whining, and others realize that the fact that there are illegals to be bused contradicts LIEden Administration and other Dems' claims that the border is under control.

[Old n Grumpy]

contradicts LIEden Administration and other Dems' claims that the border is under control.

It’s under control, just not our control 

[Ptarmigan]

Eugene (58,886 posts)


27 buses carrying migrants arrive in Chicago since Saturday as city moves forward with tent plan

Source: Chicago Tribune

27 buses carrying migrants arrive in Chicago since Saturday as city moves forward with tent plan

Nell Salzman and Alice Yin, Chicago Tribune
Wed, September 27, 2023 at 9:48 PM EDT·5 min read

CHICAGO — Osvalgo Montilla, 57, got off a charter bus in Chicago’s West Loop Wednesday afternoon after trekking thousands of miles from Venezuela, thinking about his wife of 25 years who was in a detention facility in Del Rio, Texas.

Montilla, a pharmacist in his home country with three grown children, had traveled to the United States and sat on a bus for 20 hours. But he was most worried about his wife, who he hadn’t seen in five days. When the couple entered the U.S. on Sept. 22, his wife, like thousands of other migrants, was arbitrarily selected to be put in a detention facility.

“Here there is employment. I want to grow — economically and personally,” he said in Spanish. “But my biggest worry is finding my wife.”

He wasn’t sure when or how he would reconnect with her.

Montilla is just one of the hundreds of new migrants who have arrived in Chicago in the past week with an uncertain future, as the number of asylum-seekers has surpassed 15,000 with the arrival of 27 buses since Saturday, including seven on Wednesday. With the city running out of room to house them — as thousands sleep on police station floors and at airports awaiting shelter placement — Mayor Brandon Johnson on Wednesday defended his administration’s decision to contract with a private security firm to help place the new asylum-seekers in base camps before winter.

-snip-

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/27-buses-carrying-migrants-arrive-014800940.html

Chicago said they were a Sanctuary City. How is that working out, eh?

[Texacon]

Pharmacist pay in Chicago just dropped to $30k/year. 

KC

[Old n Grumpy]

Chicago reminds me of a Venezuela of the past.”

I didn’t know Venezuela had gangs of “youths” shooting and looting at will.

[Old n Grumpy]

  This is the F*ing richest nation in the world

surely we can do better than THIS!

Yes we can,build the freaking wall and let them sleep in their own bed in their own country 

[jukin]

This is the F*ing richest nation in the world

surely we can do better than THIS!

DUmbass DUchebag let me introduce yu to basic accounting and what a balance sheet is.  we are the most in debt nation. Not the richest nation. DUmmys proving they are DUmb.

[BamaMoose]

Anyone remember the good ole days when the Chavistas were all over the DUmp.

Peace Patriot Donating Member(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore  Sun Dec-27-09 12:04 PM
Response to Original message

5. The business leaders' view. When do the workers get quoted? Oh, yeah, a lot of them are dead,

or in prison, or fired from their jobs, or suffering injuries (beatings, rape, torture), or mourning loved ones slaughtered by the military, the police and their death squads.

They don't get a viewpoint in "business." They get shot, beheaded, SILENCED.

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This Facusse bastard sure has Chavez on the brain...

"'Foreign businesses often have a fear of investing in Latin America because of the problems that have resulted from someone like Hugo Chávez nationalizing businesses,'' said Adolfo Facusse, president of the National Association of Honduran Industry.

"'What Honduras has demonstrated is that we're not going to follow in the political path of Chávez,'' Facusse said. 'Many business owners will look at what happened here, will note our elections and see Honduras as a more stable place where the government will not try to take over your business.''"

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Reminds me of the Honduran coup general who said that, by their coup, they were "preventing communism from Venezuela reaching the United States" (quoted in a report by the Zelaya government-in-exile).

Communism = doubling the minimum wage (Zelaya policy)

Communism = joining a regional trade group (ALBA) by which Honduras can get cheap oil from Venezuela and thus lower the price of bus tickets for poor workers (Zelaya policy)

Communism = lunches for poor school children (Zelaya policy)

Communism = listening to labor unions and grass roots groups all over Honduras, on the need for fundamental reform of Honduras' putrid political system (Zelaya policy).

And in Venezuela, communism = universal health care, universal free education through college, wiping out illiteracy, maximum citizen participation in government and politics, local community power on the use of government development funds, and many other DEMOCRATIC policies, as well as spectacular economic growth over the previous five years, 2003 to 2008, averaging 10%, with the most growth in the private sector (not including oil)!

If that's "communism," we could use some here--so I am not at all happy with this Honduran coup general and his cronies who took it upon themselves to "prevent communism from Venezuela reaching the United States." And you gotta wonder who's feeding him, Facusse and their ilk these lines. 

Peace Patriot Donating Member(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore  Sun Dec-27-09 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #6

7. You are way exaggerating these problems, and inventing some, and you can't give

the Chavez government ANY credit for ANYTHING. They are just bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad! They are "ruining the country"!

Criminy, WHO needs "a reality check"?

"GDP is falling at about 3 % per anum, is projected to fall in 2010 at a similar rate."

"...is falling...". Yup, this year, like everybody else. "...is projected to fall..." is a conveniently passive word construction. WHO is "predicting" this? The government itself--with a VERY conservative budget based on only $40 a barrel for oil (revenues from which make up only one third of Venezuela's budget) predicts 0.05% growth for the next year, while FULLY funding social programs and after a SIZZLING growth of 10% for the five previous years (most of it in the private sector, not including oil). Numerous countries are hurting after the Bushwhack Financial 9/11. Venezuela, and the other Bolivarian countries, are in fact doing very well in these circumstances.

There is an electric power shortage because there is a DROUGHT. It has nothing to do with Chavez government management. They are in fact far better managers of the Venezuelan government and economy than the looting and plundering "neo-liberal" assholes who ran the country into the ******* ground in every way imaginable, before Chavez.

As for health care, the Chavez government has been trying to provide health care for EVERYBODY--for that vast poor majority that the previous assholes didn't give a frig about! Instead of praising that very difficult and essential project, and all the new community health centers that have been built, staffed and are up and running, in numerous areas that were never before served by government, and never before had health care of any kind, you dwell on the problems in big hospitals, where doctors complain of not making enough money!

"...my workers' paradise." "...my darling Chavez." Did I say those things? Did I say that Venezuela is a "workers' paradise"? Did I say that Chavez is a "darling" or express any such sentiment? These gross mischaracterizations of what I said are exemplars of what you are doing to the Chavez government--gross exaggeration.

Every country has problems of one kind or another. If you ONLY mention the problems--and if you invent problems--you are like one party to a marital divorce hating the other party for leaving the toothpaste uncapped, not closing the toilet seat, failing to pay a bill and incurring late fees, having relatives who fart at the Thanksgiving dinner table, and leaving scratches on your CDs, in addition to marital infidelity. You are PILING ON. And you are as ridiculous as divorcees sometimes are. Years later they can maybe laugh at themselves. In the high heat of the moment, the other party is evil personified. Nothing they ever did is good. We see this in the parties to a contested will, as well--siblings conceiving insane hatred for each other, such that nothing good that the other person ever did can be remembered. It's emotional blindness.

Chavez is not all bad, and not all good. But the Chavez government is a lot better for most Venezuelans than any prior government, and it inherited vast malfeasance from the previous one--the kind of malfeasance that cannot be remedied in a decade, the kind of malfeasance that Bush/Cheney just inflicted on us here in the U.S. We may never recover. Even if we were able to elect a new FDR--whom Chavez resembles more than any other politician--we may never get out of the vast hole that Bush/Cheney plunged us into.

The Chavez government has done extremely well in these circumstances--with unremitting hostility from the U.S., from Venezuela's own, selfish, unproductive, whiny rich elite who want the U.S. to come in and install them in power again, and from global corporate predators like Exxon Mobil and the corpo-fascist press. The Chavistas are NOT "ruining the country"--far from it; they have brought the benefits of Venezuela's oil to the vast majority, and have led the country and the continent in a new thought: That resources, and economies, should benefit everyone, not just the rich and the corporate. And even if they make mistakes, they are, by and large, doing what they were ELECTED to do--in elections that are far, far more transparent than our own. They have the approval of their people, in big numbers, in most respects.

Try a little love and charity, Braulio. Try thinking about that crippled, arthritic old lady with heart problems, who worked as a maid all her life in some rich Venezuelan's house, to be able to feed her children--worked for pittance wages, had no other skills because she was displaced from her little farm by big rich landowners, and could never afford school--and now has a pension, provided from the oil revenues via the Chavez government, and now has a medical clinic down the street that she can walk to, and can now READ, because of the Chavez government literacy programs, and maybe even has a part-time job, and a sense of usefulness, cooking her favorite recipes with other old ladies in the neighborhood, in the Chavez program for providing homemade lunches to local laborers on government construction projects.

It's Christmas, Braulio--a time for reflections on kindness and generosity, a time for forgiveness and renewal. A time for new thoughts. You are stuck on this thought that Chavez is bad, bad, bad. He is not. Nor are those who support him--the vast majority of Venezuelans. 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x28511

Of course, they would readily declare the current economic fiasco in Venezuela is all the United States fault.

[jukin]

Anyone remember the good ole days when the Chavistas were all over the DUmp.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x28511

Of course, they would readily declare the current economic fiasco in Venezuela is all the United States fault.

And it is. Every single democrat went to bat for the communist Chavez AND the same vote machine companies that put the criminal and traitorous kiddie ****er in as president put the criminal traitorous communist (& I suspect kiddie ****er) Chavez in charge of Venezuela.