51 year member of UAW and

[CC27]

multigraincracker
51 year member of UAW and
the local that is now walking the picket line.
Lots of memories of standing on Michigan Ave, in the cold, warming up around the burn barrel. All of those car driving by giving us a honk. Some folks stopping by with a box of donuts for us. Can’t tell you how much that would raise our spirits.
I retired from my job, with a defined pension over 21 years ago.
No more retirement like I had. Still the same pay rate I had back then.
Companies have record profits this year and can afford massive stock buy backs that benefit large stock holders, like CEOs. All while the workers are stuck with 2002 compensation. How much have the prices of cars gone up in that time?

If you happen to drive by a picket line, at least honk your horn and pump a fist. Drop off some food and encouragement.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/111714320

51 year mooch is more like it.

[Old n Grumpy]

What they don’t understand is that paying all the retirement benefits costs a bunch of money. And it’s not like years ago when they didn’t have competition from foreign car manufacturers.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Was going to post this on Labor Day, but appropriate given this strike:

**** UNIONS!!!

A once necessary function of employees (never call them "workers", that's a Communist term) had outlived its usefulness. Less than 10% of Americans are union members and a giant proportion are government employees.

Have you read the UAW's demands? Pay raises up 46% and a 32 hour work week. Pathetic losers.

Screw these greedy sycophants who leech off of society. If you're so lacking in intellect that you can't negotiate your own salary or hourly rate, you don't deserve a higher wage.

[SVPete]

Looks like the UAW's new business plan is to drive a car company into bankruptcy, get WashDC to bail out the company, and then get a cut off the to of the bail-out. DU-folk will go         and see nothing.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Looks like the UAW's new business plan is to drive a car company into bankruptcy, get WashDC to bail out the company, and then get a cut off the to of the bail-out. DU-folk will go         and see nothing.

Additionally, all these goober-mint edicts are essentially forcing the car manufacturers into making more EV's when the public doesn't want them, there is no infrastructure to charge EV's, and the manufacture of such vehicles requires less union workers to make them.

I'm not opposed to electric vehicles in principle, but our country should be more rational in rolling out the infrastructure gradually and not at this pie in the sky warp speed they're trying to shove down Americans collective rectums.

[zeitgeist]

Breitbart had a great article which I read this morning. I will post a link below for lurking DUmmies who may not normally read such articles:

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/09/14/uaw-to-strike-all-big-three-automakers-at-the-same-time-for-first-time-in-history/

Embrace the suck DUmmies. Lunch bucket Joe don't give two  about ya.

and if you have time (or a family member who can read) try this one too:

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/09/14/breitbart-business-digest-the-uaw-is-fighting-bidenomics-and-bidenflation/

[FlaGator]

Since they are not working at the moment, fire them all and then hire back the ones who realize that money to buy groceries is more important than a 32 hour work week.

[SVPete]

Similarly (to Ralph's comment), I am not opposed to electrical vehicles per se, but what gooberment has been subsidizing for a decade or more and is trying to ram down Americans' throat is markedly inferior in usability, safety, and economically usable lifetime. Subsidies divert money and resources from developing something that is a fully viable and fully functional replacement for gasoline and diesel fueled vehicles into producing inferior vehicles.

[67 Rover]

Additionally, all these goober-mint edicts are essentially forcing the car manufacturers into making more EV's when the public doesn't want them, there is no infrastructure to charge EV's, and the manufacture of such vehicles requires less union workers to make them.

I'm not opposed to electric vehicles in principle, but our country should be more rational in rolling out the infrastructure gradually and not at this pie in the sky warp speed they're trying to shove down Americans collective rectums.

Jennifer Granholm has none of the issues with infrastructure and charging that you describe, maybe you are doing it wrong. 

[Old n Grumpy]

That’s a point I never thought of that the union donates big money to the democrats, so yeah keep voting for them democrats stupid 

[Texacon]

So the OP from DU states the auto workers are working with wages from 2002 …

I negotiate for myself and I’m working on wages from 2023.

Damn, sounds like being in a union absolutely SUCKS!

Come on DU, send your best Union rep over here to debate. They will leave in tears, I promise. Anyone who relies on a union to negotiate for you is a loser.

KC

[SVPete]

So the OP from DU states the auto workers are working with wages from 2002 …
...

Unsurprisingly, the DU OPer lied. Much as I wish I could find a chart of UAW wage rates since 2000, I had a hard time finding even this:

Summary of UAW‐UW 2021‐2024 Collective Bargaining Agreement

https://hr.uw.edu/labor/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2021/05/UAW-2021-24-CBA-Summary-Chart_Final_2.pdf

Article 33 – Wages

Updates: The parties agreed to base rate and minimum ASE hourly rate market adjustments of 3% on July 1,
2021, 3% on July 1, 2022, and 3% on July 1, 2023.

So UAW workers received 3% increases this year and in each of the previous 2 years. Regardless of what was done in 2002-2020, DU member multigraincracker lied ((s)he's a UAW insider, active or retired, so I do not believe the false claim was due to ignorance). FWIW, when I took a survival job at the end of the 2000-2002 dot-bomb, it was a $12K-$13K pay drop. It took from 2002 to 2009 or 2010, including a lay-off and new job, to get back to where I was in 2002. I'm not complaining at all, that was just real life. Did UAW workers ever take pay cuts while they drove GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy in 2009? While forcing the car companies to move production of the high gas mileage cars the gooberment forces them to  sell outside of the US?

[CollectivismMustDie]

That’s a point I never thought of that the union donates big money to the democrats, so yeah keep voting for them democrats stupid 

Yup. Like our 'friends' over on DU, they vote against their own best interests. Democrat union leadership is failing them bigtime and they continue to vote for more of the same.

[jukin]

Woke leftist unions strike against woke leftist corporations. I hope they both lose and lose big.

[Old n Grumpy]

I negotiate for myself and I’m working on wages from 2023.

Same here, I never belonged to a union and got ahead by working harder than anyone else around me.

It may sound stupid but it works