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Offline CC27

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I've been very depressed about Issue 1 here inn Ohio
« on: August 01, 2023, 11:21:16 AM »
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I've been very depressed about Issue 1 here inn Ohio

From my signs being stolen at the end of my street to a fight with neighbor over it.
Really tired of Republican's trying to turn what’s left of Ohio into a one party dictatorship.
Born and raised here. I’ve never been this sad.
Someone give me some encouraging news…anything!

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Re: I've been very depressed about Issue 1 here inn Ohio
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2023, 11:37:07 AM »
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I’m a blue speck in a sea of red in this small Arkansas town. People were stealing Biden/ Harris signs during the 2020 election. I hot glued 4 mousetraps to the back of my sign. Made me feel better.

They must have big mice in his neighborhood, I never knew mice stole signs  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:
Life is tough and it’s even tougher when you’re stupid

Basking in the glow of my white Privilege and toxic masculinity while I water the Begonias with liberal tears!

I will give up my guns when the liberals give up their illegal aliens

We need a Bull Shit tax to make the Democrats go broke!

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Re: I've been very depressed about Issue 1 here inn Ohio
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2023, 11:50:31 AM »
From https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/05/read-the-official-arguments-for-and-against-ohio-state-issue-1-the-60-constitutional-change.html :

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What would State Issue 1 do?
State Issue 1 would require future proposed amendments to get a 60% supermajority in a statewide vote, compared to the current 50% simple majority standard that’s been in place for more than a century. However, State Issue 1 itself only would need a simple majority to pass.

It also would make it harder for citizen-proposed amendments to qualify for the ballot by tightening the preliminary signature-gathering requirements groups proposing amendments must meet.

Right now, amendment campaigns must collect 412,591 valid voter signatures, or a number equal to 10% of the votes cast in the most recent election for governor, to get their proposal before voters. Those signatures must come from at least 44 of Ohio’s 88 counties. Within each county, the number of signatures must be equal to at least 5% of the votes cast in that county in the most recent election for governor.
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If State Issue 1 passes, amendment campaigns would have to collect the same amount of overall signatures. But they would have to collect them from all 88 Ohio counties, instead of only 44 counties, in an amount equal to at least 5% of the votes cast in that county in the most recent election for governor.

It also would eliminate the 10-day cure period, meaning amendment campaigns only would have one shot at meeting the statewide and county-by-county signature numbers. If they fall short, they would have to start the whole process over again.

 :mental: A 60% super-majority requirement is "turning Ohio into a one party dictatorship"? :mental: Several states already have super-majority requirements for ballot initiative constitutional amendments, https://ballotpedia.org/Supermajority_requirement or other hurdles beyond a simple majority.

 :mental: To qualify an initiative for the ballot, significant numbers of signatures would have to be collected in all 88 counties? Not just 44 counties? This would "turn Ohio into a one party dictatorship"? :mental:

 :mental: Initiative signature campaigns that fail to gather enough signatures and meet the counties requirement would have to start over instead of having a 10-day extension would "turn Ohio into a one party dictatorship"? :mental: samplegirl doesn't know that this is how the process works in Deep Blue California? :mental:  :thatsright:
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Re: I've been very depressed about Issue 1 here inn Ohio
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2023, 12:55:15 PM »
From https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/05/read-the-official-arguments-for-and-against-ohio-state-issue-1-the-60-constitutional-change.html :

 :mental: A 60% super-majority requirement is "turning Ohio into a one party dictatorship"? :mental: Several states already have super-majority requirements for ballot initiative constitutional amendments, https://ballotpedia.org/Supermajority_requirement or other hurdles beyond a simple majority.

 :mental: To qualify an initiative for the ballot, significant numbers of signatures would have to be collected in all 88 counties? Not just 44 counties? This would "turn Ohio into a one party dictatorship"? :mental:

 :mental: Initiative signature campaigns that fail to gather enough signatures and meet the counties requirement would have to start over instead of having a 10-day extension would "turn Ohio into a one party dictatorship"? :mental: samplegirl doesn't know that this is how the process works in Deep Blue California? :mental:  :thatsright:

I’ve seen the yard signs. The “save democracy!” hysteria is in full swing.

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Re: I've been very depressed about Issue 1 here inn Ohio
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2023, 01:34:49 PM »
I’ve seen the yard signs. The “save democracy!” hysteria is in full swing.

DU-grade Progs birthing howling yowling devil-kittens over fake poutrage is so predictable that it is unsporting to factcheck them, even with a mediocre search engine like DDG.
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Re: I've been very depressed about Issue 1 here inn Ohio
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2023, 11:43:37 AM »
The vote on this is today (8/8). Hopefully it passes. Constitutions should not be amended by a simple 50%+1 vote. The writers of the US Constitution set a very high bar for amendments, and so should states.
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