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Offline Lauri

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Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« on: September 08, 2008, 03:26:07 PM »
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-08-08 03:03 PM
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Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
This is grade A flame material and I hope this can be rationally discussed. If people get too crazy I'm deleting this.

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In wikipedia it says that over 90% of fetus diagnosed with Down's Syndrome are aborted in the US.

Persons with Down's have reduced IQ, other health problems and reduced life expectancy. I don't think many around here would object to the choice to abort.

As it stand right now a woman in the first trimester can abort for any reason. Her body, her choice. The high percentage of Down's abortions is due to the burdens of caring for a special needs person as well as a perceived diminished life of a person with Down's (although, to be fair, those with Down's are probably happy they are alive).

So how do we get to aborting gay fetuses? Well if you (like me) think there is a genetic component to being gay. The science is right around the fringes of this right now but I would bet in ten years there will be genetic testing for the likelihood of a child being gay. (And realize that there are false positives and false negatives in all genetic testing). What would you think about a woman who chose to abort a fetus just because it was going to be gay? What if so many women made that choice that "gay culture" (such as that is) is greatly reduced? Should there be laws restricting genetic testing of these "gay genes"?

Where do I stand? Her body, her choice. And try to educate people not to hate. 

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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 03:31:14 PM »
This means the end of California as we know it. The state would lose half its electoral votes.
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 03:32:18 PM »
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muddleofpudd  (1000+ posts)      Mon Sep-08-08 07:08 PM
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3. You hope this can be rationally discussed? At DU? Rational discussion?
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 03:45:36 PM »
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Persons with Down's have reduced IQ, other health problems and reduced life expectancy. I don't think many around here would object to the choice to abort.


What a total POS. 
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 03:46:32 PM »
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-08-08 03:03 PM
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Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?


No such thing, no way to test it.  Even if there were a way to test for it, no. 
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 03:47:28 PM »
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Persons with Down's have reduced IQ, other health problems and reduced life expectancy. I don't think many around here would object to the choice to abort.


Object?  Hell, at DU it would be cause for celebration.
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 03:48:51 PM »
I'm glad as someone pro-life, I don't have conundrums like this to deal with. While I very much dispute the idea that at least ALL gay people have  genetic basis for being gay, I still think the portion that are and can be found out to be so early on, should be entitled to life like any other unborn child. I do think though that if this is indeed a genetic abnormality, there should be efforts made to CORRECT the abnormality of the parent wishes and research should be ongoing to this end. That would provide another sticky place for liberals: if gay can be corrected at a genetic level, should a viable cure be found...after all aren't gays telling us all the time they wouldn't choose to be gay? This to me implies that if they could change themselves at the core, they would. I have a feeling though that liberals would find any effort to change homosexuals as homophobic, even when there is scientific evidence of a mutation in the genes and that it is something that could indeed be treated.

This should get interesting. :popcorn:
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 03:52:06 PM »
The way that mole danced around that DU hot button subject, the mole should be on "Dancing With The Stars".
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 03:53:33 PM »
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-08-08 03:03 PM
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Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?


No such thing, no way to test it.  Even if there were a way to test for it, no. 

If ever they find the "gay gene," watch how quickly Roe V. Wade gets a bunch of new opponents.  :whatever:
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 03:57:39 PM »
People with Down's syndrome have tended to approach the level of expectations that their parents and teachers have for them, and these expectations have been based on marginally surmounting the upper limits of professional expectation in each generation.

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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 04:05:58 PM »
And they call us intolerant?
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 04:21:07 PM »
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cbayer  DU Moderator Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Sep-08-08 04:38 PM
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The OP correctly labeled this as flamebait.

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Just when it was really starting to blaze cbayer throws water on the fire.

I guess a "Gay lump of cells" is different than any other "lump of cells".

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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 05:24:46 PM »
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Just when it was really starting to blaze cbayer throws water on the fire.

I guess a "Gay lump of cells" is different than any other "lump of cells".



Of course it had to be locked.  If it had been allowed to develop, the 5 or 6 DUers who still have functioning brain cells might have had to actually think through a moral stance.  Can't have that!!!  ::)
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 07:01:30 PM »
Well color me shocked!
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 07:08:18 PM »
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Persons with Down's have reduced IQ, other health problems and reduced life expectancy. I don't think many around here would object to the choice to abort.


What a total POS. 

This should be re-framed as "should a liberal woman be allowed to abort any child?" 

I mean, children of liberals who grow up as liberals have an extremely low IQ and tend to be obese and have significant drug and alcohol problems.

We know they legally can, but this is a *gasp* MORAL question.

As always, moral equivalency works in the Conservatives' favor.
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Re: Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2008, 07:09:09 PM »
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)       Mon Sep-08-08 03:03 PM
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Should a woman be allowed to abort a gay fetus?


No such thing, no way to test it.  Even if there were a way to test for it, no. 


I know that women abort for all sorts of reasons, and this is one where I could certainly see that yes, they would.

After a lifetime of hearing from the GLBT crowd how 'hard' and 'scary' their lives are? WHY would we want to subject a child to that?

(only partially sarcastic on this one..)
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