trolls have taught me something interesting: The Northwest is a dystopian hell

[dutch508]

Star Member Aristus (62,316 posts)
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Right-wing trolls have taught me something interesting: The Northwest is a dystopian hellhole.

Who knew?

All I ever knew is that we have beautiful scenery, wealthy, progressive cities, a well-educated populous, fairly good weather (sure, it rains a lot, but that's significantly better than it not raining a lot.) and job opportunities that people leave other parts of the country for.

Do we have our problems? Sure. What part of the country doesn't have it share of problems? Including and especially homelessness. But homelessness here is for the same reason it is anywhere: the wealthy business owners don't want to pay a living wage for the labor they get rich on.

I guess the right-wing media has painted us as Mad Max or something. Which is really unfair. I-5 isn't always like that.

google crime stats for Portland and Seattle...

Star Member mopinko (67,147 posts)

2. same w chicago.

i get so sick of it.
i will say, tho, my 1st hub’s family lived in coure d’alene for a few yrs and always wanted to get back. they’d be trump voters if they were still around. the ex told me about the gun nuts back then. 70’s.

 

Star Member Ocelot II (108,530 posts)

3. Hey, I'll see your dystopian hellhole and raise you our crime-ridden wasteland!

Ever since Antifa vandalized some stores and burned down a police station here in the People's Republic of Minneapolis to protest George Floyd's murder (oh, wait, I guess they arrested some white kids from the suburbs for that, but never mind), we've been picking our way over burned-out hulks of stolen Kias and fighting off drug-crazed panhandlers on our way to the boarded-up grocery stores to buy crudités and artisanal cheeses and to visit all those taxpayer-money-sucking parks, lakes, and bird sanctuaries. It's terrible. And now we've become a legal sanctuary for trans people and women's health care on account of our woke legislature and even woker governor. The horror, the horror....

Antifa is white kids from suburbia...

inthewind21 (3,215 posts)

17. When a right wing

loon starts babbling about the hell holes that are New York and California I always respond with "Huh, why do you suppose the largest portion of the population chooses to live there?" And don't even get me started on the claims (EVERY SINGLE TIME housing prices come up) that housing is through the roof because "all those people from California" flooding in to oh, about 45 states and driving up all the prices! California should be about empty by now what with all it's residents fleeing and flooding the rest of the country.

 

Mysterian (3,792 posts)

6. The Southeast is the true dystopia

The Southeast has higher crime, more poverty, worse health care and lower quality of life. How do they explain all that?

maxsolomon (30,458 posts)

11. Homelessness isn't ALL because living wages aren't paid.

The crisis is fueled by mental illness and drug addiction, specifically opiates, and the homeless come from all over the PNW, many times from extremely red states (I'm looking at you Montana).

Many homeless are simply unemployable now.

Also, look up Martin v Boise for an explanation of the West Coast's intracatable street camping issues.

 

Star Member vercetti2021 (9,130 posts)

16. Yeah its a common talking point

Listen I live in Amarillo, TX. One of the shittiest parts of Texas IMO. We have one of the most corrupt city governments in modern day history, they bow to one rich asshole of the city that wants no progress on anything. We have severe homelessness, drugs, thefts, vandalism on the daily. Mind you we are a city of 200k+ people, and yet we are probably the most conservative city in the state,

Amarillo is proof that the blue cities are nothing but a dystopian shit hole is a lie. Amarillo is a conservative ran city and its extremely shitty to live here. Living in a corrupt, lawless place where religion rains supreme is not a place I want to be.

Hassler (2,880 posts)

20. Funny how MAGA towns are dying because the young flee as soon as possible to

Those hellhole cities of Portland, Minneapolis etc-- where all the jobs are. Why can't Republican run towns in nowhere Kanas create jobs? Why is it the liberal run places that create jobs?

 

[ADsOutburst]

Some states are wealthier than others, and DU seems to fancy that this is because of their politics.

[USA4ME]

Talk about purposely(?) missing the point. Dem cities are what they are because of their leftist policies, not because the rich aren’t paying enough. These big cities and states have high taxes, yet they continue to have problems that conservative areas simply don’t and won’t have.

And that Amarillo is anywhere close to having issues on a scale like leftist run cities is too ridiculous to be addressed.

They try so hard to prop themselves up as being superior while falling so short when it comes to reality.

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[SVPete]

Quiz time, Aristus:

In which major city has the PO stopped delivery in a zip code due to thefts and violence?

A. Waco, TX

B. Jacksonville, FL

C. Seattle, WA

D. Portland, OR

E. All of the above

[SVPete]

The SF Bay Area has scenic beauty that rivals or exceeds WA and OR. Violence still plagues SF and Oakland and threatens to spread to other cities. The same is true of Seattle and Portland. The dystopia is the violent humans and the gooberments that champion them rather than restraining them.

[DUmpDiver]

I had no idea that greedy rich business owners had been electing Democrats into office in Portland and Seattle for decades. Why haven't those elected Democrats been socially responsible enough to impose draconian taxes on successful people so that everyone can be addicted to drugs and live in a tent in the rain?

[Old n Grumpy]

Since all they see is a beautiful city, I guess the garbage, the drug addicts , the human turds and miscellaneous, homeless and crazies. It’s normal to them.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[enslaved1]

Memory serves me seeing some people posting on social media during the "summer of love" riots in Seattle, taking pictures of their neighborhoods claiming nothing was wrong, all those reports must be fake, ignoring that it's a big city and you can't see what's going on across the whole thing.

Same vibes here, putting on blinders with rosy pictures painted in them to convince themselves that everything is fine. 

[Old n Grumpy]

You have to remember the left only sees and hears what it wants to. All the rest is just misinformation 

[Rebel]

Mysterian (3,792 posts)

6. The Southeast is the true dystopia

The Southeast has higher crime, more poverty, worse health care and lower quality of life. How do they explain all that?

Only in democrat-controlled, shithole cities. Outside of said cities it's paradise. ...but do tell your leftist friends to stop ****ing coming here. We're being inundated on the Florida panhandle.