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A misdemeanor for Trump sounds crazy, right? Let's explore why, and why not.

Deadline WhiteHouse has a legal blog that I am enjoying. I tend to agree that even a misdemeanor conviction for TFG could be useful.
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Charging Donald Trump with a misdemeanor would be totally insane, right?....

So while it’s unlikely, given the myriad federal and state probes into the former president, that his criminal fate will come down to a misdemeanor or nothing, it’s worth thinking about why we might be inclined to disregard anything called a misdemeanor as insufficient. I think that inclination is misplaced, for two reasons — one philosophical and one practical.

First, if Trump isn’t above the law, then no charge is too small for him, especially the sort of charge that people around the country face every day. If a misdemeanor winds up being the crime, or one of the crimes, he’s guilty of, then so be it, just as it would be for the rest of us.

Second, the practical difference between misdemeanor and felony charges can be smaller than one might think, as the hush money situation illustrates. The felony charge of falsifying business records in the first degree sounds quite serious — and any criminal charge is serious — but it’s the lowest level felony in New York, called an “E” felony, which, like the misdemeanor charge, can result in relatively brief incarceration. So the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony, at least for falsifying business records in connection with the hush money, could be minimal when it comes to potential incarceration.

And, again, I don’t expect Trump’s nationwide criminal exposure to come down to a misdemeanor or nothing, but it’s worth understanding why the idea is less absurd than it sounds at first blush, if the point is to treat Trump like the rest of us.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217643868


A misdemeanor conviction could be useful?? You morons are insane.

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A misdemeanor conviction could be useful?? You morons are insane.

Semantics.  If somehow there's a misdemeanor conviction, the moonbats get to slap the title "CONVICT Trump" on him every whip-stitch.
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Letmypeoplevoteillegally has been at this, and been consistently wrong, since long before they closed Discussionist.


It is a raving far left loon.
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Semantics.  If somehow there's a misdemeanor conviction, the moonbats get to slap the title "CONVICT Trump" on him every whip-stitch.

True, but on the other hand, no matter what happens to Trump legally, the moonbats will be beside themselves that he didn't get something worse.

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Letmypeoplevoteillegally has been at this, and been consistently wrong, since long before they closed Discussionist.


It is a raving far left loon.

LetMyPeopleCheatAndVote50Times; aka "Gothmog" is completely incapable of original thought.  That one's posts are either cartoons, or "Cut N Paste" the thoughts of others. 

If I didn't want to burn an account, I'd hop over and inquire how the criminal arrest warrants are proceeding against George W Bush and Dick Cheney.

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Well then. Had no idea Discussionist was shuttered. Matter of fact, if you attempt it, it redirects to Black Lives Matter. Nice, huh.

Meanwhile, in the eyes of the Island Inhabitants, any conviction of Trump, anything, an unpaid trash bill from March of 1979, anything, is worth it. To those rats, all they hear, "he was found guilty!!!"

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Well then. Had no idea Discussionist was shuttered. Matter of fact, if you attempt it, it redirects to Black Lives Matter. Nice, huh.

Meanwhile, in the eyes of the Island Inhabitants, any conviction of Trump, anything, an unpaid trash bill from March of 1979, anything, is worth it. To those rats, all they hear, "he was found guilty!!!"

Yeah, DI got shut down a few years ago.  Blue has created Hide5 as a refuge for some of the DI 'bitter clingers'; Boadica for one.   IMO, place would be a lot nicer if "Nero" aka "JH4Freedom" wasn't spamming the board with bullshit.
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Yeah, DI got shut down a few years ago.  Blue has created Hide5 as a refuge for some of the DI 'bitter clingers'; Boadica for one.   IMO, place would be a lot nicer if "Nero" aka "JH4Freedom" wasn't spamming the board with bullshit.

Nero being gone would make it better, but it wouldn't change blue from a fake conservative who favors lefties, to a real one.who doesn't put up with their shit.

That forum is a perpetual trainwreck because of her 'management'.
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