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Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« on: September 06, 2008, 01:23:23 PM »
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tekisui  (1000+ posts)      Sat Sep-06-08 02:10 PM
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Obama Slams McCain, Palin
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TERRE HAUTE, Ind.--Barack Obama turned up the heat on John McCain and Sarah Palin at a rally here Saturday afternoon, accusing McCain of being surrounded by lobbyists and engaging in "Karl Rove-style" politics and charging that Palin, as governor of Alaska, accepted federal pork "when convenient."

At an event held in a barn on Wabash Valley Fairgrounds, Obama employed the strongest language he's used since McCain and Palin formally accepted the GOP nomination for president and vice-president. He also accused them of hijacking his message of change.

"SInce the beginning of this campaign, we've talking about change," Obama said. "That's been the theme of this campaign. We must be onto something because I've noticed everybody's talking about change now. Everybody's talking about change."

"John McCain has said that, "change is coming." Now think about this. This is from the party that been in charge for eight years. They've been running the show." Obama said. "And suddenly, he's the change agent."

Then Obama opened a fresh line of attack, one he hasn't used recently on the trail.

"He says I'm going to tell those lobbyists that their days of running Washington are over. Who's he going to tell?" Obama said. "Is he going to tell his campaign chairman (Charlie Black), who's one of the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington? Is he going to tell his campaign manager (Rick Davis), who was one of the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington. Is he going to tell all the folks running his campaign who are the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington?

"Who is he going to tell that change is coming?," he said. "I mean, come on, they must think you're stupid."

Both Black and Davis had lucrative careers as lobbyists before signing on with the McCain campaign. The Republican candidate has said that their background doesn't undercut his message of lobbying reform because both men have left the business.

"What are these guys talking about?" Obama said. "You think we haven't been paying attention for the last eight years?'

In Palin's case, Saturday marked the first time Obama has gone after her record directly. He cast her, like McCain, as a reformer only "when convenient," saying she had embraced earmarks earlier in her political career as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska and governor of that state.

"She's a skillful politician," Obama said of Palin, "but when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly, you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on. Words mean something. You can't just make stuff up."

Records have shown that Palin secured millions of earmarks for Wasilla as mayor. As governor, she just this year sent Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) a request for 31 earmarks totalling $197 million.

Last year, however, Palin stepped up her criticism of earmarks as the furor over the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere" in Alaska raged.

Obama also accused the McCain campaign of engaging in "Karl Rove-style" politics, which he defined as "about dividing people instead of bringing them together."
 

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tekisui  (1000+ posts)      Sat Sep-06-08 02:12 PM
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McCain Supportes Act Like Religious Cultists but Without the Ethics
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The values of the Republican Party lately seem to be "anti-values" and do not stand for anything positive. They have become real nihilists masquerading behind phony patriotism and reform. They intend neither.

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Is this the kind of President and Vice President McCain voters want? Two people who run an angry and derisive, insulting, lie-laced campaign? Ones who cover up and lie about their records and policies while distorting the stances taken by their opponents, instead of talking issues and differences of opinion? Do they want a repeat of these last eight years after all our coujtry has seen happen?


The only thing one can conclude is that McCain voters must be a political, quasi-religious cult, of knee-jerk, brainwashed followers who will use underhanded tactics, dirty tricks, savage attacks that tell the public lies in order to win by crook since they can't win on the strength of ideas. Their party is intellectually and morally bankrupt.

The Repubicans think they can have it both ways. They can talk loftily of bipartisanship, then allow their team to savage their opponents with things that aren't even true..


One would think they wouldn’t do this since this is precisely how Mr. Bush destroyed McCain’s candidacy in the 2000 primaries, with the help of the Karl Rove’s team that Mr. McCain now uses to run his own campaign. McCain voters don’t care if America continues to slide into bankruptcy and ruin and pariah status all over the world.


They put party first instead of America or they wouldn’t be trying to turn our national need to discuss real bread and butter issues into a carnival of partisan rancor. They refuse to simply debate differences of opinion or explain policies or define ideals, because they secretly want more of the same failure our country has been getting from George W.Bush. .

McCain people often comment that those who write posts against Sarah Palin "must be scared."

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Not just 2 threads that display the intense hypocrisy of DU, but 2 threads by the same poster!!!!   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 02:23:26 PM »
Classic example of liberal projection, and I mean on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama as well. Such as:
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"Since the beginning of this campaign, we've been talking about change," Obama said. "That's been the theme of this campaign. We must be onto something because I've noticed everybody's talking about change now. Everybody's talking about change."

A "change" theme is an old, old tactic that the messiah did not invent. :whatever:

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rosesaylavee  (1000+ posts)       Sat Sep-06-08 06:18 PM
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7. K & R
 Very very smart response. People don't like to think they are being used and taken for idiots.


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Then the double-entendre posts:

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ClarkUSA  (1000+ posts)      Sat Sep-06-08 06:21 PM
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9. We need to adopt these talking points and start writing LTTE (which older people read)
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That's a demographic where Barack could do better if they only knew the truth.

We are Obama's rear guard.
 
 

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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 02:28:23 PM »


Not just 2 threads that display the intense hypocrisy of DU, but 2 threads by the same poster!!!!   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Well thats one way to get your post count up.  :rotf:
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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 02:31:29 PM »
From the 740 million dollar earmark man?

If there was a real media that question would be brought up.
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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 03:22:47 PM »
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As governor, she just this year sent Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) a request for 31 earmarks totalling $197 million

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Ted Stevens to reveal requests for earmarks
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Published Wednesday, February 27, 2008


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“We have reduced the total number of earmark requests from 54 last year to 31,” Katz said. “The total amount of money requested has gone down from $550 million to less than $200 million.


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In an interview here on Saturday, Palin said the state’s congressional delegation needed to change with the times and significantly curb their use of congressional earmarks.

“We can either put our heads in the sand and ignore the reforms that are coming or we can be proactive and get Alaska in a position to be more productive, contributing more and become less reliant on the federal government,” Palin said

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Stevens, also a Republican, ranked second in the Senate in the number of earmarks he salted into spending bills in 2007. According to the nonprofit budget watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense, Stevens snagged $389 million in earmarks for projects back home.

Yeah, Palin was just horrible in her request.  It's a good thing people/reporters/Dims actually look up the facts before writing their smears.   ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 03:42:45 PM »
Between Obama's earmark record and the new problems with Hunter & James Biden - Does Obama really think its smart to bring up earmarks and lobbyists ?

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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 04:27:35 PM »
Obama really is in a box.  He can't use the experience angle.  He can't use the results angle.  He can't use the corruption angle.  He can't use the National Defense angle.  He can't use the conservative values angle.  He can talk about the economy, but the counter is automatically how much are these programs going to cost and where is the money coming from.  Going after the environment isn't going to yield a large number of votes, so chase away.
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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2008, 05:43:01 PM »


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Come on. Words mean something. You can't just make stuff up

says the guy who has delivered speeches that were essentially stolen from other people twice.  "words mean something" was a freaking hillary clinton campaign battle cry.  jeez, the nerve of this guy.

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Re: Obama Slams McCain, Palin
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 06:47:32 PM »
Lobbyists working on Obama's campain (a 30 second Google search): http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html

"Three political aides on Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) payroll were registered lobbyists for dozens of corporations, including Wal-Mart, British Petroleum and Lockheed Martin, while they received payments from his campaign, according to public documents.

The presence of political operatives with long client lists on Obama’s campaign contrasts with his long-held stand of campaigning against the influence of special interests. Obama has even refused to accept contributions from lobbyists or political action committees (PACs). "

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