Are there any ads reminding Americans about the Slobfather's lies about Covid an

[Texacon]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217244625


Boy, here's a brilliant idea.  This OP shows just how informed DUmmies are.

malaise (248,822 posts)


Are there any ads reminding Americans about the Slobfather's lies about Covid and the deaths

that followed.
Asking for a friend

Yeah, that will work great!  Do it.  Look up the numbers.  How many died when Trump was president, with no vaccine, and how many have died since Biden took office and the vaccine available.

KC

[ADsOutburst]

Oh look, another DUer pondering why democrats don't adopt their brilliant strategy.

[FlaGator]

How about replaying the video of Nancy Pelosi telling everyone that Covid was nothing to worry about and inviting them to Chinatown in SF?

[SVPete]

Lies about Covid? Oo! Oo! Let me help!!!

Did Trump Take Covid-19 Seriously - Trump Actions and Donkey Brayings

I'm going to give a chronology of Trump Administration actions in the context of things Democrat officials - local and national - did and said. I'll include a few items that give the context of what was known when. I'll let actions demonstrate who was or was not serious about Covid-19.

December 31, 2019 - WHO found a translation of a Chinese news report on ProMED about the outbreak in Wuhan; WHO's China office found a Wuhan Municipal Health Commission media statement about the outbreak in Wuhan; https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/29-06-2020-covidtimeline

January 4, 2020 - CDC Director Robert Redfield offers to send technical experts to China: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/03/how-much-pressure-did-trump-put-china-access-concerning-coronavirus/ (behind paywall)

January 6, 2020 - CDC issued a Level 1 travel notice for Wuhan, China; https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/01/cdc-issues-level-1-watch-travel-notice.html

January 8, 2020 - CDC alert to clinicians to ask patients with "severe respiratory illness" whether they had traveled to Wuhan; https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00424.asp

January 11 and 12, 2020 - Covid-19 coronavirus DNA sequence communicated to WHO; https://www.who.int/csr/don/12-january-2020-novel-coronavirus-china/en/

January 15, 2020 - Nancy Pelosi signed impeachment articles and doled out impeachment pens; https://apnews.com/3cd46ae3f694b21c0cf83af3f0c4f1c7

January 17, 2020 - The US started screening arriving passengers from China; JFK, SFO, LAX https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1 ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson
January 22, 2020 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/

January 20, 2020 - Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health working developing a vaccine for coronavirus; https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/health/coronavirus-nih-vaccine-development/index.html

January 20, 2020 - CDC activated its emergency operations center; https://emergency.cdc.gov/recentincidents/index.asp?cid=EPR-homepage

January 20, 2020 - First acknowledgement by China and WHO of human-human transmission of coronavirus; https://abcnews.go.com/Health/human-human-transmission-coronavirus-reported-china/story?id=68403105

January 20, 2020 - First confirmed coronavirus case in the US announced; https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0121-novel-coronavirus-travel-case.html

January 22, 2020 - Pharmaceuticals company Moderna working with US government to develop vaccine; https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html , https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-funding-award-cepi-accelerate-development

January 26, 2020 - While warning that the coronavirus would come to NYC, New York City Health Commisioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot advised people, "We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives and suggest practicing everyday precautions that we do through the flu season," and, "We are very clear: We wish New Yorkers a Happy Lunar New Year and we encourage people to spend time with their families and go about their celebration"; https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/nyregion/new-york-city-coronavirus.html

January 27, 2020 - US CDC issues highest-level travel health notice, Level 3, recommending that travelers avoid all nonessential travel to China; State Department raises its own travel advisory for all of China to Level 3 of 4, urging U.S. citizens to “reconsider travel”, while retaining its Level 4 travel advisory for Hubei Province; https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0128-travelers-avoid-china.html , https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/travel-alert-level-4-do-not-travel-to-hubei/

January 29, 2020 - White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force; https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480627-white-house-announces-task-force-to-monitor-coronavirus

January 31, 2020 - In reference to Lunar New Year celebration activities, Barbara Ferrer, Los Angeles County Department of Public Health Director, said, "There is no need to panic and there is no need for people to cancel their activities."; https://mynewsla.com/hollywood/2020/01/28/health-official-says-coronavirus-is-no-need-for-panic-in-los-angeles-county/

January 31, 2020 - Trump declared a public health emergency; https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-suspends-us-flights-china-amid-coronavirus/story?id=68666037

January 31, 2020 - State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel; https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/

January 31, 2020 - People entering the US from China forbidden; Announced January 31, effective February 2; https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html This effectively ended flights from and to China, for obvious reasons.

January 31, 2020 - Biden referred to "Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia - hysterical xenophobia - and fearmongering" while criticizing Trump's China travel restrictions; https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481028-biden-slams-trump-for-cutting-health-programs-before-coronavirus-outbreak

February 1, 2020 - The day after Trump announced the China travel shutdown Joe Biden Tweeted, "Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering"; https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1223727977361338370?s=20

February 2, 2020 - NYC Health Commissioner Dave A. Chokshi encouraged New Yorkers, "As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC,... there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus; https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1224043155852537863

February 4, 2020 - Rep. Ami Bera claimed Trump's China travel restrictions would "create prejudices" and cause people to "harbor anxieties toward" Chinese people; https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/02/04/coronavirus-quarantine-travel-ban-could-backfire-experts-fear-1258757

February 5, 2020 - First House of Representatives hearing about Covid-19; https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/05/watch-us-house-panel-holds-hearing-on-the-coronavirus-outbreak.html

February 5, 2020 - Rep. Eliot Engel claimed Trump's China travel restrictions would "stoke" "discriminatory" and "racist" responses; https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/2020/2/engel-statement-at-coronavirus-outbreak-subcommittee-hearing

February 7, 2020 - NYC Health Commisioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot advised people, "So we’re telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life, but practice everyday precautions"; https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-nyc-health-commissioner-urged-new-yorkers-gather-p (the link includes context of her advice and video of her comments)

February 9, 2020 - NYC Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot encouraged New Yorkers, "I want to remind everyone to enjoy the (Lunar New Year) parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about #coronavirus."; https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1226508570646269954

February 11, 2020 - HHS expands partnership with Janssen Research & Development for vaccine development; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/02/11/hhs-janssen-join-forces-on-coronavirus-vaccine.html

February 18, 2020 - HHS to work with Sanofi Pasteur to develop coronavirus vaccine and treatment; https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/18/sanofi-announces-it-will-work-with-hhs-to-develop-coronavirus-vaccine/

February 24, 2020 - Nancy Pelosi invited Californians to "come to Chinatown"; https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/02/24/coronavirus-speaker-house-nancy-pelosi-tours-san-franciscos-chinatown/

February 25, 2020 - An NIH clinical trial of Remdesivir begun; at University of Nebraska Medical Center, https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-remdesivir-treat-covid-19-begins

February 26, 2020 - Nancy Pelosi referred to Trump's China travel shut down as, "scare tactics about people coming back to our country"; https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1232717882020245504

February 29, 2020 - Level 4 travel advisory to Italy, South Korea; https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/02/29/coronavirus-trump-adds-travel-restrictions-italy-south-korea/4914822002/

February 29, 2020 - Iran travel ban announced; https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/29/trump-administration-expands-coronavirus-travel-ban-to-include-iran/

March 4, 2020 - In a press conference, NYC Health Commisioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot advised "So, there's no indication that being in a car, being in the subways with someone who's potentially sick is a risk factor ..."; https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/118-20/transcript-mayor-de-blasio-new-yorkers-city-s-covid-19-preparedness

March 5, 2020 - City of New York Mayor de Blasio encouraged residents to "get out on the town"; https://twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1234648718714036229

March 5, 2020 - Barbara Ferrer, director of the Los Angeles County Public Health Department, said, "The public can continue to enjoy all that L.A. County has to offer, including the Los Angeles Marathon"; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-07/coronavirus-cancels-many-events-but-l-a-marathon-and-coachella-still-on-here-is-wh

March 11, 2020 - Trump suspended travel from Europe; https://news.yahoo.com/trump-suspends-travel-from-europe-for-30-days-as-coronavirus-cases-continue-to-grow-014314635.html

March 13, 2020 - Trump declared National Emergency; https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-trumps-emergency-declaration-over-coronavirus-means-for-arizona/ar-BB11a6RO

March 14, 2020 - European travel ban extended to include the UK and Ireland; https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/14/white-house-adds-uk-ireland-to-travel-ban-129470

March 16, 2020 - Testing begins of Moderna's experimental coronavirus vaccine; at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute, https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-news/news-2020/kaiser-permanente-launches-coronavirus-vaccine-study-seattle

March 19, 2020 - State Department global level 4 health advisory, avoid all international travel; https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/travel-advisory-alert-global-level-4-health-advisory-issue.html

Note: the above was written in August 2020.

[SVPete]

The contrast above suffices to show that Trump and his administration took Covid seriously and acted almost literally from the day China announced its existence to the world. The list above of Trump administration actions is a small sample of what I knew, sufficient for context and contrast. I have much longer lists of Trump administration actions done in January and February. Were I to post those lists the posts would be obnoxiously long. The Dems claim Trump ignored and downplayed Covid in the first couple of months - i.e. January and February 2020 - and those months, therefore, were wasted. As my post above proves, it was Dem pols and public health officials in Dem-governed major cities that ignored and downplayed Covid in January, February, and March 2020.

Not being a DU member, I can't use whatever Search function DU dinosaurian RYO forum SW has, but I wonder what DU-folks were saying about Covid in January and February 2020. Were they warning each other about it or claiming Trump was exaggerating it? Were they agreeing with Trump's China travel shutdown or denouncing it as racist and xenophobic?

[RuralNc]

Not being a DU member, I can't use whatever Search function DU dinosaurian RYO forum SW has, but I wonder what DU-folks were saying about Covid in January and February 2020. Were they warning each other about it or claiming Trump was exaggerating it? Were they agreeing with Trump's China travel shutdown or denouncing it as racist and xenophobic?

Yeah. Unfortunately without a "star membership", searching the site is nearly impossible. Nice scam they have going there. That, or they really dont want the average nosy person snooping around too much.

Not to mention, you can only go back about 30 pages before you run into another roadblock.

[Texacon]

SVP, you might want to dig around in here;  https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=archives&date=2020x1

And if you want to change months/years

site:democraticunderground.com january 2020

That's the search term I used.

Enjoy!

KC

[RuralNc]

Well, well, well.

I found a way to access the archives. Grant it, it takes a little searching, outside of the DU site itself, but its possible. You can look day by day, then simply "control F" and type in your search term. Its a little clumsy but it works. I wont post publicly how. I wouldnt want any lurking Monkeys in on it. 

But heres a blast from the past, until I have time for more searching.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212938505

Zolorp (1,115 posts)

 
FINALLY, Recoveries exceed deaths in 2019-nCoV (Wuhan Coronavirus) Outbreak

12,024 Cases
259 Deaths
287 Recovered

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Sounds like they've locked in effective treatment. I expect the overall death rate to drop now.

7 cases in the US, there was another in California. Shows it is mostly contained here and with flights to and from China stopped, the spread will likely die down in the U.S with only one person to person transmission being recorded in the US.

I see this entire outbreak as having somewhat of an upside now because it is preparing the world for how to react when a worse outbreak comes, and if the history of medicine teaches us anything it teaches that eventually, there will be a worse disease outbreak eventually.

[RuralNc]

SVP, you might want to dig around in here;  https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=archives&date=2020x1

And if you want to change months/years

site:democraticunderground.com january 2020

That's the search term I used.

Enjoy!

KC

Well fine, have it your way Texacon.. 

I used a slightly different search term. Yields the same result. 

[SVPete]

Opinions expressed based on very limited information sometimes fare poorly. For example, from the DU-thread RuralNc linked:

malaise (248,830 posts)

7. Someone who is supposed to know about these matters

told me things will be back to near normal by Feb 9

                                                                    

[Texacon]

Yeah, I poked around at some of those posts and they were an interesting read.  I was going to bring some over, but I'm knee deep in some numbers for a job.

KC

[Ralph Wiggum]

How about a montage of liberal mouthpieces declaring that "if you get the vaccine, COVID stops with you"?  Like most liberals, that didn't age well.

[RuralNc]

Well. I did some searching. Here I believe is the 1st reference to the China-Virus at the DUmp. Dated Jan 10th, 2020. Im reasonably certain this is it. I Went back to the final week in Dec of 19, nothing. I then worked thru January, with the search terms "China", "Virus", and "Wuhan".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/114222379

There is only a couple responses, and one is already blaming Trump. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Well. I did some searching. Here I believe is the 1st reference to the China-Virus at the DUmp. Dated Jan 10th, 2020. Im reasonably certain this is it. I Went back to the final week in Dec of 19, nothing. I then worked thru January, with the search terms "China", "Virus", and "Wuhan".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/114222379

There is only a couple responses, and one is already blaming Trump. 

Every media outlet called it the Chinese Wuhan virus until the head honchos of the Democrat party realized the Chi-Coms were funding them and they conveniently changed their talking points.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/

[RuralNc]

Just for funs, and since it appears to be a slow night at the Island of the Damned, I was curious. Much like SVPete, what was said in the early days of the China-Virus?

Specifically, how about Masks? What wisdom did the cretins have to offer? We know how they still feel to this day. But... well lets take a look.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212912655

hlthe2b (93,427 posts)

3. Surgical facemasks won't protect you. You need N-95 HEPA filter masks.

FYI

That said, you are jumping to conclusions right now. Right now, flu is more likely to infect you.

frazzled (18,357 posts)

7. People are right, they don't protect you. But if you really want one

Go to a hospital, if you can gain access. There are usually dispensers around that have face masks for you to take.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212910375

Baclava (11,377 posts)

7. Paper masks are not much good against airborne viruses, but good for keeping hands away from mouth

Handwashing is always the best prevention against contagious diseases, thats my 2 cents

redstatebluegirl (12,035 posts)

13. Wash your hands, those masks are not worth much.

spinbaby (14,684 posts)

18. Get a flu shot

You’re far more likely to die of the flu and you can do something to prevent that. Get a flu shot, wash your hands often, and keep your hands away from your face.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213030396

CousinIT (7,396 posts)


U.S. Surgeon General: STOP. BUYING. MASKS.
Link to tweet


Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!

They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-treatment.html

cwydro (47,897 posts)

58. Feel safer where?

Are you seriously going to walk around with a mask everyday?

I’m involved with vulnerable elderly folks quite frequently. No one is wearing masks - at the doctor offices, the dialysis centers, the senior centers - I’ve seen them nowhere.

I went to vote today. Many, many people there - not a mask in sight.

Are you sick? If so, yes, then wear a mask to protect others.

Miles Archer (18,547 posts)

4. They won't protect you. It's that simple.

I wish I could remember the name of the guest who was on MSNBC yesterday, but she said that the respirator masks that DO work, that are used in areas where people are being tested and treated, are also custom-fitted. The over the counter dust masks DO NOT protect people.

CousinIT (7,396 posts)

25. Nope. Leave them for the healthcare workers or only if you are sick yourself.

CDC’s recommendations for using a facemask.

CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.

Facemasks should be used by people who show symptoms of COVID-19 to help prevent the spread of the disease to others. The use of facemasks is also crucial for health workers and people who are taking care of someone in close settings (at home or in a health care facility).

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-treatment.html

PoindexterOglethorpe (23,372 posts)

47. Because people are dumb enough to think the masks will do something,

and rather spend ten minutes with each and every person explaining why they are not needed, it's easier to put out masks that do nothing at all but give people a false sense of security.

Good times folks. And DUmp, thank you for the entertainment and the receipts. 

[landofconfusion80]

They never seem to see the irony in that "asking for a friend" bit

[Texacon]

Just for funs, and since it appears to be a slow night at the Island of the Damned, I was curious. Much like SVPete, what was said in the early days of the China-Virus?

Specifically, how about Masks? What wisdom did the cretins have to offer? We know how they still feel to this day. But... well lets take a look.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212912655

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212910375

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213030396

Good times folks. And DUmp, thank you for the entertainment and the receipts. 

 

Good digging!

KC

[RuralNc]

 

Good digging!

KC

I needed a shower after that. 

[RuralNc]

Oh my..... Oh....

From Sept 1st of 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142574387

CatWoman (77,407 posts)

1. i'm not your ****ing guinea pig

i talked to a co worker this morning and this subject came up.

even former CDC officials said if they were black they wouldn't take this unproven vaccine.

End Of The Road (1,397 posts)

7. I'll submit to a hasty vaccine.... at gunpoint. Nt

bluestarone (14,011 posts)

10. With these ****ing people it wouldn't surprise me if

They forced this on kids, In order to attend school! Use Kids as their guinea pigs.   

Funny how things changed. Including, but not limited too the Dems wanting to force kids to take the jab to attend school. 

Oh my. This is a treasure trove.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Oh my..... Oh....

From Sept 1st of 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142574387

Funny how things changed. Including, but not limited too the Dems wanting to force kids to take the jab to attend school. 

Oh my. This is a treasure trove.

Great job!!!

One thing which is nearly impossible to research is what DUmmyville thought of Donald Trump say circa 2005. IIRC, a lot of DUmmies were fans of his show "The Apprentice" and the celebrity version.

[Zathras]

No. Next question please.

[ADsOutburst]

I’ve heard that narcissists can forget things they said previously. That could explain leftists doing 180s on masks and Trump.

[RuralNc]

Great job!!!

One thing which is nearly impossible to research is what DUmmyville thought of Donald Trump say circa 2005. IIRC, a lot of DUmmies were fans of his show "The Apprentice" and the celebrity version.

I took the challenge...

Heres the first thing I found. June 9th, 2005

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3820557

dxdem Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore   Thu Jun-09-05 12:52 PM
Original message
Trump on FOX
Donald Trump was just on DaySide, on FOX, and he spoke out very clearly against Bush and the War in Iraq. He also said that he thinks America is ready for a female president.

Funny: When the female host asks him about Guilianni running vs. Hilary, he said it would be an interesting race. She said, in typical fox news "some people say" fashion, something to the extent of "don't you think he's got skeletons in his closet." He promptly answered "do you?!"

cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore   Thu Jun-09-05 01:18 PM
Response to Original message
1. Good for him.
That's interesting.

Typical DUmp fashion. They like him when it fits. 

[SVPete]

Just for funs, and since it appears to be a slow night at the Island of the Damned, I was curious. Much like SVPete, what was said in the early days of the China-Virus?

Specifically, how about Masks? What wisdom did the cretins have to offer? We know how they still feel to this day. But... well lets take a look.
...

I wasn't just DUpipo making such comments about masks. Up until April 2020, public health people, in the US and internationally, were recommending against healthy people wearing masks. Somehow DUpipo missed that reversal and just parroted whatever line was current.

[SVPete]

Oh my..... Oh....

From Sept 1st of 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142574387

Funny how things changed. Including, but not limited too the Dems wanting to force kids to take the jab to attend school. 

Oh my. This is a treasure trove.

More good digging, but forum SW won't let me immediately give another ! Untested/Hasty Trump Vaccine was the Dem Party Line in September 2020. In late October or November the Dem Party Line changed to silence, and then in January-February it changed to LIEden's there were no vaccines when I came into office.