DUmp all pissed that Brandon blew up Nordstream

[BannedFromDU]

speak easy (5,749 posts)

Tucker Carlson: The U.S. blew up the Nord Stream pipelines (?)

(much DU bullshit whining)

Wow, maybe this time Tucker has gone too far! Oh, wait...hang on a sec...


YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR SAID HE WOULD TAKE NORDSTREAM OUT HIMSELF. ON VIDEO.



Good thing DUmmies don't matter.

[enslaved1]

So, this story is pretty buried in my feeds, and like anything about Russia/Ukraine, what happened depends on who you ask.  So I ask the folks here, what did happen?  Was the pipeline sabotaged?  Was it an accident?  Is there any reliable information on this?  Did Biden think it would raise Hunter's Ukrainian energy stocks and his "10% for the big guy"?

[BannedFromDU]

So, this story is pretty buried in my feeds, and like anything about Russia/Ukraine, what happened depends on who you ask.  So I ask the folks here, what did happen?  Was the pipeline sabotaged?  Was it an accident?  Is there any reliable information on this?  Did Biden think it would raise Hunter's Ukrainian energy stocks and his "10% for the big guy"?

It was almost certainly sabotaged. The point is that Biden publicly threatened it, yet it is supposedly treason to remind anyone that he threatened it. On video.

[sunsettommy]

I think these questions needs to be asked:

Who benefits the most from the Pipeline destruction?

Who is hurt the most from the pipeline explosion?

[67 Rover]

It was almost certainly sabotaged. The point is that Biden publicly threatened it, yet it is supposedly treason to remind anyone that he threatened it. On video.

Agreed but it was not just Brandon who threatened.

Victoria Nuland in January.
“If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another there will be no Nord Stream 2.”

The only thing that gives me some small doubt is that the same clown that said “The best way to protect yourself from a hurricane is to get vaxxed.”  and giving shout outs to dead reps could actually be capable of being involved in this successful mission. 

[67 Rover]

It was almost certainly sabotaged. The point is that Biden publicly threatened it, yet it is supposedly treason to remind anyone that he threatened it. On video.

Phew.  Well at least the things listed below are now off the table otherwise it could have gotten ugly. 

President Biden told reporters Wednesday he gave President Vladimir Putin a list of 16 critical infrastructure entities that are "off limits" to a Russian cyberattack.

Those entities include energy, water, health care, emergency, chemical, nuclear, communications, government, defense, food, commercial facilities, IT, transportation, dams, manufacturing and financial services.

[SVPete]

LIEden would do something that decisive?

Russia would burn their bridges to EuroLand to that degree?

I don't know, but to me it seems slightly more likely that crazy Warmistas would try to take out a natural gas pipeline than either of the above.

[sunsettommy]

A son of the new American revolution

WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!!
27 September 2022 by Larry Johnson

Excerpt:

On the very day the world learns about the sabotage of Russia’s Nordstream 1 and Nordstream 2, guess what else happened? Well, Ukrainians from the Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporhyzhia and Kherson oblasts voted in overwhelming numbers to become Russians. While that is a game changer that is not what I had in mind.

How about this–Poland on Tuesday inaugurated a new pipeline that will transport gas from Norway through Denmark and the Baltic Sea? That is it!!! What a coincidence!! Or is it?

https://sonar21.com/what-a-coincidence/

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Don't be too sure it was America who blew it up since the fall out might be too damaging if Germany believe it was done by hypocritical UA.

[67 Rover]

A son of the new American revolution

WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!!
27 September 2022 by Larry Johnson

Excerpt:

On the very day the world learns about the sabotage of Russia’s Nordstream 1 and Nordstream 2, guess what else happened? Well, Ukrainians from the Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporhyzhia and Kherson oblasts voted in overwhelming numbers to become Russians. While that is a game changer that is not what I had in mind.

How about this–Poland on Tuesday inaugurated a new pipeline that will transport gas from Norway through Denmark and the Baltic Sea? That is it!!! What a coincidence!! Or is it?

https://sonar21.com/what-a-coincidence/

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Don't be too sure it was America who blew it up since the fall out might be too damaging if Germany believe it was done by hypocritical UA.

Occam's razor.

Most likely White Supremacists or the USA but I repeat myself.

[Old n Grumpy]

Actually Trump did it to take the attention off of the NyAg lawsuit  

[DefiantSix]

Occam's razor.

Most likely White Supremacists or the USA but I repeat myself.

I'll guarantee it wasn't the Biden Regime's US Military that did it. They didn't spend nearly long enough arguing on Twatter what the pipeline's pronouns were first.

[FlaGator]

Aquaman.

[jukin]

Means, Motive, and Opportunity

Means: What countries have the Means: USA, France, Great Britain, Germany, Russia. These was a very deep pipelines.

Motive: What countries from above would want to sabotage the pipelines? Germany certainly didn't and neither did France. Great Britain might but I can't see why. Russia has no motivation as they could keep the infrastructure and just turn the pumps off and attain the same result and they lose leverage. That leaves the USA but why? Well the German government had huge protests of their citizens that did not want to freeze this winter nor empty their bank accounts. Germany might have been willing to break with the USA on backing Ukraine all the way. So only the USA had the motivation... oh did I mention another $12 billion to Ukraine in the stopgap funding bill today?

Opportunity: What countries had the opportunity? The USA has been in that area running navy drills over the past few weeks. No other country that I know of. Also the US navy has been bragging about new underwater drones.

Add this to the open threats from Biden and his junta to these pipelines and it puts Biden's America at the top of the suspect list.

No one here wants to think of the USA as rogue nation but it sure looks like we are under democrat control. The democrat party is using NAZI style tactics to take over domestically and now NAZI style tactics to start world war III.

I'm open to hear and debate anybody's rational and supported argument that I am wrong but I don't think you will convince me that the USA did not perpetrate this act of war.

I just found this youtube so added it on edit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF8wwTxyMNQ

[Aristotelian]

Great Britain might but I can't see why.

If we did it, it would have been based on orders from Washington...

[SVPete]

Russia's Baltic Fleet has bases in Baltiysk (Kaliningrad Oblast) and Kronstadt. Fleet assets range from at least one SSK to multiple surface warships to various specialized auxiliaries. Russian ships would be cruising the Baltic with some frequency.

I don't see any clear reason the US would sabotage/attack the pipelines. Russia has cut off the flow of gas, and domestic energy supply would not be diminished. I have a hard time imagining PINO Biden doing anything so decisive.

OTOH, while Russia is obviously using its natural gas to armtwist EuroLand, I see no reason Russia would destroy that leverage. I guess a false claim that the US did it could be used to create a siege mentality in Russia, but .

Similarly, I don't see why any Baltic country - Poland, the Baltic states, Finland or a Scandinavian country - would sabotage/attack the pipelines. They all rightly fear Russia, but the pipelines lack military value, and this would be likely to antagonize Russia and lead to retaliatory attacks.

I seriously wonder if it was done by non-state actors, specifically Enviros, wanting to cut off EuroLand from the evil fossil fuel, natural gas. I'm persuadable, as evidence surfaces.