Star Member kpete (68,945 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216588391
Capitol Rioter Says Trump 'Authorized' Capitol Attack
“An attorney for a man who took a coat rack and a bottle of liquor during the U.S. Capitol attack argued to a jury on Tuesday that former President Donald Trump ‘authorized’ the Jan. 6 assault on the building by convincing ‘vulnerable’ people like his client that the election was stolen,” NBC News reports.
.....Shamansky argued, the "genesis" of the attack began months before Jan. 6, and responsibility fell at the feet of Trump, who "authorized this assault" on the Capitol.
"It was a plot, it was a scheme, it was a conspiracy... that began at the highest levels of our government," Shamansky argued.
Thompson and other "vulnerable" Trump supporters like him "believed the lies that were fed to them" in the months leading up to Jan. 6, Shamansky argued. Thompson was "predisposed" to "this lunacy," Shamansky said, but losing his job at the beginning of the Covid pandemic left him sitting at home to digest the "garbage" that Trump and his supporters were spreading.
Defendant claims someone else is at fault.
Star Member lindysalsagal (16,641 posts)
1. We knew this, because they're not bright enough to organize that mess alone.
Star Member Nevilledog (35,219 posts)
3. I fail to see how this qualifies as a legal defense.
It isn't.
hydrolastic (222 posts)
6. does it bother anyone that all of the trials are happening in secret
I mean really if it is so important that democracy depends on a good outcome. How come its all being done in secret?
Star Member kentuck (104,840 posts)
10. Ignorance of the the law is not a legal excuse.
If someone tells me that the bank downtown robbed my Grandpa of all his money and they want to get it back and they want me to drive the getaway car, and they pull the stockings down over their faces before they barge in, then it would be difficult for me to plead that I was "used" by the bank robbers...
No- that would be, "I didn't know I couldn't steal stuff from the Capitol Building..." The trespassing charges will be thrown out.
Star Member Emile (3,537 posts)
11. I don't understand why the DOJ didn't start with the guy who
orchestrated the insurrection. Instead he goes after these ignorant assholes!
Like.... who?
hydrolastic (222 posts)
12. Does it bother anyone else that all of the trials are happening in secret
I mean really if it is so important that democracy depends on a good outcome. How come its all being done in secret? meanwhile while we wait for someone to determine what we "can" hear, the Republicans are running roughshod all over us. Its been well over a year and we all saw the crimes as they were committed!!!! I am more than frustrated. Its clear he was trying to subvert the American public and stay in power any way possible.
Star Member TomSlick (9,272 posts)
16. What makes you think the trials are happening in secret?
The cases are all listed on the Court's docket which can be accessed on the internet if you know the defendant's name. Most hearings will be open to the public, for anyone willing to work through courthouse security.
The issue is that these low level cases are not being reported in the media, at least not until after any hearing or trial.
hydrolastic (222 posts)
21. Ok then where can I go to see this then ?
Is there a website tracking the trials? Can we hear witnesses. Who is on the stand? Thank you in advance.
[mic drop]
Star Member Kingofalldems (35,298 posts)
15. Trump should come and testify for these people.
Oh wait, he regards them as trash so that won't happen.
