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Offline dutch508

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We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« on: March 24, 2022, 08:27:48 AM »
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We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.

The Peoples faith in the American justice system is being ripped to pieces. That is extremely dangerous.

If Trump, his family, his corrupt enablers, are not held accountable for the countless crimes they have committed, our constitution will become a worthless piece of paper.

One day the Republicans will win back the Whitehouse. Today in America, all a president has to do is hire a corrupt AG, he is then free to commit crimes. That is the precedent being set right now.

What happened in the New York criminal case against Trump was a travesty. Something is very wrong. Believe it or not a trump voter said this to me about a month ago. He said Trump will not be indicted in New York because a lot of rich people are doing what Trump did with his financial records, taxes. If you indict Trump, it would open the door for many other indictments of rich, powerful people. I do not know if this Trump voter is right, but it does seem possible.

The only way we can protect, save ,the American justice system is to indict Trump and his enablers for the crimes they have committed. They are guilty, we all know it. Anything less will cause great harm to the rule of law.

I hope the American people understand what is at stake.

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Star Member kentuck (104,623 posts)

1. I started to post on this same subject...

Can America continue to exist with the myth that "no one is above the law"?

The "Left" would likely have a more difficult time accepting it than would the "Right". Perhaps so?

To be honest, I never expected NY State to do anything about the criminal acts. After all, Trump was from NY. He operated and did his "business" there for several decades. "Everything Trump touches dies," to paraphrase Rick Wilson, A Republican comedian...but honest.

I would not expect New York to escape unscathed. I never fully expected to see any prosecution of Trump or his Trump Foundation. Too many politicians have been bought. Do we need to mention any names?

The old Constitutional axiom that "all men and women are equal", is not what we thought it was.

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Star Member gab13by13 (8,735 posts)

4. Letitia James, the New York AG, is getting ready to cripple the Trump Organization.

Mark Pomerantz was all set to send the criminal case to the grand jury, one person stopped him, Alvin Bragg.

The fact that Trump did business in NY has nothing to do with what Alvin Bragg did, even former DA Cy Vance, told Pomerantz to take the case before the grand jury.

I still have a little hope that another prosecutor will take this case, hello Tish James, hello Mimi Rocah.

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Star Member Scrivener7 (41,439 posts)

12. Vance had no intention of doing anything himself. (Just like his father before him.)

He successfully kicked the can down the road to Bragg and Bragg, for no discernible reason, will not prosecute.

Tfg has ALWAYS been untouchable in NY. My family had a small NY construction company until the 90s. I am personally aware of people tfg ruined by not paying them for no reason other than he could get away with it. His crimes were easily provable and he was never prosecuted for any of them. He is tied into organized crime, and someone in NY protects him.

The only question now is how high does that influence go? The trajectory of tfg over the years shows us the shadows of the networks that actually run things. Why they would back him is anyone's guess, but I suspect Putin has a hand in that.

I have no hope for Garland, but some for Tish. It is a question whether she can withstand the pressures that have sent everyone else running for the hills.

But what I am learning from this is that our Democracy is largely a front. If you can buy or extort your way into these networks of influence, you are untouchable.

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8. I agree with you completely

and want to add that I think WE ARE ALREADY THERE. Just take a look around at the discrepancies between the haves and the have nots in regard to crime and punishment. You see crime in the light of day and nothing happens if you are in the club. A reset is way past due.

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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2022, 08:42:21 AM »

     I wonder if there are any other examples of powerful people in this country who are allowed to do whatever they want with no consequences, and if you get too close to them, they'll have you killed.

     One of them has really wide ankles. The other has beg ears and his wife appears to have been a man before, but I am no biologist.
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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2022, 08:45:16 AM »
How many scores or hundreds of threads are there on DU calling for jailing Trump and family, but cannot name one actual crime (statute please!) it can be proven (evidence please!) he committed?

Meanwhile, Prog-DAs in many/most states are refusing to prosecute thefts and potentially deadly assaults and releasing no-bail, multi-offending thieves and attackers. And with no DU-outrage.
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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 09:39:08 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on March 24, 2022, 08:45:16 AM
Meanwhile, Prog-DAs in many/most states are refusing to prosecute thefts and potentially deadly assaults and releasing no-bail, multi-offending thieves and attackers. And with no DU-outrage.

 We were told those people steal to pay for baby formula because they're poor. Is that not the case?
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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 09:43:45 AM »
A lawless nation?

Yeah, look at what authorities are doing in the Whitmer kidnapping trial, the 1/6 protestors cases, and the James O'Keefe fiasco. If the public more widely knew about those cases, it would pretty much erase whatever faith is left in the legal system.
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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2022, 02:47:59 PM »
Hillary is thankful for lawless Comey.
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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2022, 03:07:46 PM »
Quote from: DUmpDiver on March 24, 2022, 02:47:59 PM
Hillary is thankful for lawless Comey.

Thankful??

I'd bet the mortgage that if Comey ain't bought and paid for by the Klinton Foundation, it's only because his file was part of the 900+ FBI files that turned up missing during the Klinton regime, and Kankles owns his ass even more thoroughly than if she'd paid cash for it.
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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2022, 03:16:24 PM »
I as what crimes has Trump committed and where is the proof?
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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2022, 07:39:11 PM »
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4. Letitia James, the New York AG, is getting ready to cripple the Trump Organization.

Mark Pomerantz was all set to send the criminal case to the grand jury, one person stopped him, Alvin Bragg.

Probably a white supremacist, and Putin lover:

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Re: We are on the verge of becoming a lawless nation.
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2022, 10:05:04 PM »
Sometimes DUmmies let it slip:

"Today in America, all a president has to do is hire a corrupt AG, he is then free to commit crimes. That is the precedent being set right now."



Oops.

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