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Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« on: March 22, 2022, 08:23:11 AM »
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Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?

Or did he keep the evil tendencies of Vladimir Putin at bay? Was Putin afraid of Trump? Did he think he was too unpredictable to challenge? And that is why he waited until Joe Biden was President until he decided to invade Ukraine? He saw Joe Biden as weak?

No doubt, this is what many Trump supporters believe. However, the reality paints a different picture.

Vladimir Putin has terribly miscalculated. He may have thought that NATO had been weakened to the point they would never oppose him? He may have thought the Ukrainians would have welcomed his troops with kisses and flowers? He may have thought the war would be short and he would continue his dominance over the Russian people?

But, he forgot one small item. Everything Donald Trump touches dies. His association with Donald Trump will be his downfall.

He may have thought Donald Trump and his followers were in charge of America and they were on the side of Putin and Russia?

He has made a blunder of historic proportions.

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Star Member Walleye (13,056 posts)

1. I think he held out hope that Trump would be reinstated through violence

He didn’t understand our politics and electoral system. When obviously Trump was out for good, Putin decided to attack, thinking NATO would be at its weakest

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Star Member C_U_L8R (41,829 posts)

2. Probably handed him intel

Perhaps the CIA wasn't giving Trump the real stuff, fooling both those clowns.

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Star Member gab13by13 (8,675 posts)

3. Putin groomed Donald Trump,

Trump is a Russian asset. All one needs to do is replay the Helsinki summit where Trump cowered before his puppet master.

Trump may have given Putin bad information about president Biden mistakenly believing that he was weak, that he wouldn't be able to unite NATO, but make no mistake, Putin has been grooming Trump for a very long time. Those pee tapes are also probably real.

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7. 100% believe some MAGA mouth was in Putrids ear before he attacked UKR saying US wont ...

... do anything to stop him

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18. COVID intervened in Putin's plan to overthrow Ukraine while Trump was president.

Why do you think Putin installed Trump in the first place? As it turns out, Russian troops were enduring a wave of COVID while amassing in Belarus, but they needed to get ahead of the ground thawing in the north of Ukraine. Then another unpredicted event intervened, global warming thawed the ground before they invaded.

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Star Member Mr. Ected (8,236 posts)

21. Or maybe Putin knows that dirty tricks will lead to Trump's return

And he's just getting started on destroying democracies and installing his vision of corruption knowing that Trump will join him pulling the levers of authoritarianism in due time.

Nightmare scenario, yes. Likelihood pending review.

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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2022, 09:27:47 AM »
14 months later this is all on the senile old corrupt pedophile, Joey Shitshispants. And I believe the Biden junta wants this war to force misery, pain, and death on Americans.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2022, 09:57:03 AM »
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Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?

Here's a clue, kt. Putin didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was President.

Here's another clue, kt. Putin didn't even prepare for invading until Trump was out of office.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2022, 10:22:01 AM »
I'm still waiting fr an explanation as to how Trump "weakened NATO". He encouraged them to rearm (Which I believe they are now doing). That is the opposite of weakening.

Oh and, COVID stopped them? Please. The Russians don't seem to give a liquid shit how many of their soldiers die. I'm guessing a viral illness isn't going to stop them.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2022, 10:32:52 AM »
Did President Trump also encourage lil Kim as well? 

Rocket man fired off more ballistic missiles in one Brandon year than all four years of President Trumps.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2022, 12:06:26 PM »
OP seems to have confused Trump with Biden.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2022, 12:27:15 PM »
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He saw Joe Biden as weak?

So close. The dimwit gave the correct answer, but for no logical reason refused to believe it.

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However, the reality paints a different picture.

No it doesn’t. Not even close.

It’s more than obvious that both Russia and China view Biden as weak. More than obvious unless you have a vested interest in not wanting to believe it, that is, which the bluegrass primitive has. In the meanwhile, normal people see Biden as weak. What the left wants to believe has no bearing on anything.

The bluegrass primitives post reeks of uncertainly and a lack of confidence by him. Not that he had a lot to begin with, but this posting is a definite scream of feeling inferior and scared. And it didn’t need to be that way but for his TDS (and BDS from 2001-2008). They do this to themselves.

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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2022, 02:35:43 PM »
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18. COVID intervened in Putin's plan to overthrow Ukraine while Trump was president.

Why do you think Putin installed Trump in the first place? As it turns out, Russian troops were enduring a wave of COVID while amassing in Belarus, but they needed to get ahead of the ground thawing in the north of Ukraine. Then another unpredicted event intervened, global warming thawed the ground before they invaded.

This one really is pretty special.

Covid stopped the invasion - perhaps we should give the lab scientists in Wuhan the Nobel Peace Prize.

Then Global Warming thawed the ground - that wretched pesky global warming which we used to call 'spring'.

Do they ever stop to read their messages before sending them?
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2022, 04:38:45 PM »
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18. COVID intervened in Putin's plan to overthrow Ukraine while Trump was president.

Ummmmmmmm ... no. Trump became President in 2017. There was no Covid in 2017, but Putin didn't invade.

There was no Covid in 2018, but Putin didn't invade.

There was no Covid in 2019, but Putin didn't invade.

Covid hit the world outside of China in 2020 (basically).

Biden was in augurated in 2021, obviously, and in 2021 Putin did his preparation to invade Ukraine. If one looks here, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/ , according to data reported by Russia, much of Putin's preparation and then the invasion happened in the midst of a huge surge of Covid. Covid surged in late 2021 and early 2022, and Putin was not hindered by Covid.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2022, 08:32:47 PM »
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3. Putin groomed Donald Trump,

Trump is a Russian asset. All one needs to do is replay the Helsinki summit where Trump cowered before his puppet master.

I remember Trump yanking Putin in with a handshake. Trump has never been anyone's puppet. Biden has ALWAYS been a puppet to whomever is paying the most.

These idiots are living in clown world.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2022, 08:41:48 PM »
President Biden stood before the world and declared that, “I think what you’re going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do, et cetera.”https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/a-gift-to-putin-bidens-disastrous-response-on-ukraine/

There aint no walking that shit back.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2022, 06:44:00 AM »
feckless joe invites conflict through glaring weakness.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2022, 07:30:09 AM »
This whole "Trump is a Russian asset" thing is SOOOO stupid.  These people forget that President Trump is and was a multi-Billionaire.  Even a billion dollars is more money than most people can imagine and certainly more than they could spend.

After you enter that exclusive club it is no longer about money. Money is just a score keeper.  It is about what you can DO with money and frankly, Trump topped them all.

Trump does not need Putin or anyone.
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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2022, 11:50:28 AM »
Good find! There's a heaping helping of DUmmie stooped in that thread. :rotf:

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19. Second term trump would have taken us out of NATO.

Trump promised puketin

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Re: Did Donald Trump encourage and embolden Vladimir Putin?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2022, 02:19:57 PM »
Quote from: CollectivismMustDie on March 29, 2022, 06:44:00 AM
feckless joe invites conflict through glaring weakness.

^ This right there is what has me very worried.

I imagine Putin would wait for the optimal time between 2:30pm to 9:30am to launch a nuclear strike on the continental US.

Brandon is sure to be asleep at both times and the SS would be unlikely to arouse him and have him be coherent enough to be briefed and make any decisions on a counter strike.

Our missiles would sit unused in the silos after the first strike.

The subs would be safe but who would give the launch order given that General sunflower Milley would not have his racially and transgender-diverse crew in place with the proper pronoun training to respond.

Don't count on heel up Harris getting her hair ready in the 5 min it will take for the first strike on Washington either.
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