Ask a Trumpie/Tea Bagger/RWNJ what a liberal is and you're likely to hear a

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Atticus (12,681 posts)


Ask a Trumpie/Tea Bagger/RWNJ what a liberal is and you're likely to hear a sterotypical
caricature that does not fit any liberal you know. They have created a "strawman" even real liberals would find disgusting and they have a long list of bumper-sticker talking points to insult us.

In my childhood, my family attended a mainline Protestant church. Sunday school class and "youth church" were a part of nearly every Sunday. Our minister openly opposed the Viet Nam war and made it clear that racism was "shameful". Mom and Dad were vocal Democrats. Mom was civil servant and Dad was a union member and precinct Committeeman. I grew up a liberal protestant.

Years later, in another town, I walked out of a church of that same denomination after years of attendance and have never returned. I began to understand that I was no longer truly welcome in those pews when I started hearing all of the anti-Clinton nonsense in the pre-service chatter around us. A couple of times when I or Mrs. A mentioned that we were Democrats, people remarked that they were shocked because we "seemed like good people".

Then, in quick succession, two events occurred which "broke the camel's back". First, a woman ( who I later learned packed a pistol ) posted an announcement in the church bulletin urging all "good Christian parents" to be sure their kids were present at a "Rally Round the Flag" anti-abortion event at their school before classes started. Then, when the son of a church member and his male fiance appeared in church to announce their engagement, the whole family was embarrassed by the reactions of several of the "good Christians" present.

We left---for good.

We were "good people" until we "admitted" to being LIBERAL Democrats. Now, we are "libtard snowflakes" and "communists".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216508147

That Church stuff never happened... I have never heard anybody being called out in all my years going to Mass.

[USA4ME]

He has a very active imagination.

Of course, if you are going to claim to be a follower of God, you might want to hold the same positions that God does on things like abortion and homosexuality, which is that it's a sin. God hates sin.

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[67 Rover]

First, a woman ( who I later learned packed a pistol )

Oh noes!! A pistol packing mama! 

[ADsOutburst]

If you ask a 'liberal' these days what a conservative is, you're likely to get an answer that makes conservatives seem inhuman.

[jukin]

TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TERMS, LIBERAL AND LEFTIST.

Liberals that are also democrats as a Venn diagram is just two non intersecting circles.

[freedumb2003b]

Mom was civil servant tax $ sponge and Dad was a union member and precinct Committeeman sponge with extras

Not stereotypes - you check EVERY box of the libtard checklist.

[SVPete]

Atticus (12,681 posts)

Ask a Trumpie/Tea Bagger/RWNJ what a liberal is and you're likely to hear a sterotypical
caricature that does not fit any liberal you know. ...

Physician heal thyself, . DUmmies' ludicrous stereotyping of people they hate has been a constant and reliable source of here in the Cave for longer than I've been around (>12 years). The third/fourth/fifth words of Flatus post are great examples of this.

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That Church stuff never happened... I have never heard anybody being called out in all my years going to Mass.

Is this individual posting on the same website that had a regular "item" featuring Bob Boudelang "American Patriot?

And, they want to talk about caricatures?   

 

[Karin]

I went to a protestant church.  There was never any "pre-service chatter."  People sat quietly, even kids.  There was no political discussion, certainly. 

[SVPete]

In my childhood, my family attended a mainline Protestant church. ... Our minister openly opposed the Viet Nam war and made it clear that racism was "shameful". Mom and Dad were vocal Democrats. Mom was civil servant and Dad was a union member and precinct Committeeman. I grew up a liberal protestant.

Years later, in another town, I walked out of a church of that same denomination after years of attendance and have never returned. I began to understand that I was no longer truly welcome in those pews when I started hearing all of the anti-Clinton nonsense in the pre-service chatter around us. A couple of times when I or Mrs. A mentioned that we were Democrats, people remarked that they were shocked because we "seemed like good people". 1.

Then, in quick succession, two events occurred which "broke the camel's back". First, a woman ( who I later learned packed a pistol 2.) posted an announcement in the church bulletin urging all "good Christian parents" to be sure their kids were present at a "Rally Round the Flag" anti-abortion event 3. at their school before classes started. Then, when the son of a church member and his male fiance appeared in church to announce their engagement, the whole family was embarrassed by the reactions of several of the "good Christians" present 4..

1. Some of this is pretty dubious. Pre-service chatter? Not likely, since people tend to be more occupied with things like dropping off kids in Sunday School or settling in where they are sitting. If "anti-Clinton" comments put off Flatus, maybe he should have realized that politics were too dominant in his life. The realization that Clinton's history of sexual antics and assaults and doing Monica in the Oval Office might get strongly negative reactions among people with strong moral beliefs seems to have eluded Flatus.

2. She was able to defend herself from a potentially deadly attack? Shocking! I guess Flatus wasn't listening when the congregation's pastor read Jesus' instructions to His disciples shortly before His death ... the part about carrying necessaries that even included a current technology weapon (a sword).

3. See You at the Pole (the correct name of the event) is not a specifically Pro-Life or "anti-abortion event". Not that facts matter to a DU-member like Flatus.

4. Acceptance of same-sex marriage among mainline Protestants is actually fairly recent, has caused splits among several (e.g. Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Methodists, and the one liberal Lutheran denomination), and the relatively liberal American Baptist Church still teaches that homosexual activity is incompatible with Scripture. With that as the context in which this happened (if it happened), the announcement of the "engagement" probably was an intentionally provocative act, and I doubt Flatus was so clueless as to be surprised by the less than positive reactions.

There may be a few factual elements in Flatus' anti-church , but many/most key elements are fictional or examples of Flatus being clueless about the people and beliefs in that church (or maybe Flatus embellished/lied for his DU-audience?).

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Atticus (12,681 posts)


Ask a Trumpie/Tea Bagger/RWNJ what a liberal is and you're likely to hear a sterotypical
caricature that does not fit any liberal you know.

That would require stepping outside your bubble/echo chamber and actually interacting with people not in the hive mind.  Meaning you have no clue how a non-moonbat would answer that question. 

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That would require stepping outside your bubble/echo chamber and actually interacting with people not in the hive mind.  Meaning you have no clue how a non-moonbat would answer that question.

More over, as submerged as they are in their echo chamber, they couldn't identify more than one or two acquaintances that might not be rabid moonbats (remember, these mouth breathers believe they're in an overwhelming majority), and despite tales to the contrary, don't have the first clue how to initiate such a conversation without getting throat punched by such "barbarians".

[CollectivismMustDie]

That's funny, coming from a member of the party that can no longer define what a woman is.