Four words from my brother that breaks my heart.

[dutch508]

Cartoonist (6,908 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216440340

Four words from my brother that breaks my heart.

I stand with Russia.

He changed his Facebook photo to the Russian flag, and his profile picture to the Russian coat of arms.

He used to be a liberal. He was a Bernie supporter who felt that Hillary cheated. He didn't vote for Trump, but he's gone full Q since.

 

Star Member andym (4,866 posts)

1. Seems Qanon is under at least some Russian influence. Good to know NT.

JasonMain (75 posts)

12. QAnon is a Russian mind control organization

You are correct.

 

Star Member Hokie (4,245 posts)

2. Good lord, that's awful

You have my sympathies. I think this pro-Russia perversion was definitely fomented by Trump.

 

Star Member Bettie (12,809 posts)

5. I'm sorry, I have a friend like that

Jimmy Dore seems to be his only information source and he's all on the "Putin is right, Ukrainians are nazis" train.

 

Tetrachloride (1,712 posts)

9. I have not yet met a Trump or Russia supporter in my family

I am sorry for your experience.

Star Member Phoenix61 (11,864 posts)

11. I'm so sorry. I haven't spoken to mine in years.

He went hard-right, born again Christian, Trumpster.

Star Member elias7 (3,161 posts)

16. And he thinks he's pwning the libs, maybe even you personally

My brother may be doing the same. I don’t feel like reaching out at the moment

 

Star Member mainer (11,489 posts)

18. Anti-vaxxers are going pro-Putin in Holland

There seems to be a great deal of alignment between the two movements. Russia's disinformation campaigns have created zombie stupids around the world.

 

betsuni (18,783 posts)

20. Steve Almond, in his "Bad Stories," tell about an early-twenties friend who, like him, was

a Bernie supporter. Almond was impressed by his political engagement and how he talked about economic injustice, but his rhetoric changed, began linking to anti-Clinton pieces from strange websites. Almond first thought this was some sort of unconscious resentment toward the guy's mother, a Clinton supporter, with whom he still lived. But no, another victim of Russian agitprop designed to appeal to Bernie supporters. It was never about policy or reality, goal is distrust and cynicism, false equivalence breeding apathy and depressing turnout.

"The Russians made a calculated bet that a guy like Jon, if sufficiently goaded, would shift from an agenda driven by progressive goals to one driven by animus toward Clinton. ... He also participated in group chats ... Here, too, his logic was tough to follow. 'This country can't survive another Clinton presidency,' he wrote to his chat group, who all happened to be female Clinton supporters. 'Clinton will lead us into war. She'll create a corporatist controlled police state.' When another member of the group asked him about the dangers of electing Trump, he replied, 'Why are you stuck on fear mongering?' ... 'A vote for hillary is a vote for trump,' Jon wrote a few weeks before the election, which is how you know he isn't a person of color, or a Muslim, or an immigrant.

"He spent hours upon hours online, absorbing agitprop aimed at him, and that he turned away from from issues of economic uplift and committed himself, with increasing vigor, to trashing Clinton and agitating her voters. This is why he felt elation at the election result: it had served as a final rebuke to his mother and all those other Hillary **** too dumb to recognize the folly of genuine political belief. Over the course of a single campaign, his immersion into internet culture had transformed him from an American idealist into a Russian bot."

 

[USA4ME]

Bettie

Jimmy Dore seems to be his only information source and he's all on the "Putin is right, Ukrainians are nazis" train.

I disagree with Jimmy Dore on 99% of what he says, but this is a lie. I will say this for him; he a lib who’s consistent.

Dore has correctly pointed at that Ukraine signed a treaty to stop their war with Russian nationalists in Eastern Ukraine, but they never did. That’s not saying that Putin is right, that’s just stating fact.

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[dandi]

I disagree with Jimmy Dore on 99% of what he says, but this is a lie. I will say this for him; he a lib who’s consistent.

Dore has correctly pointed at that Ukraine signed a treaty to stop their war with Russian nationalists in Eastern Ukraine, but they never did. That’s not saying that Putin is right, that’s just stating fact.

Thank you. Dore is as Left as they come, but since his feud with The Young Turks I've enjoyed occasionally watching him expose the lies of "Russiagate" and the real history of this current conflict. I've checked his sources and done the research. He is not lying. Putin is a criminal but a lot of other people have dirty hands in this whole affair.

[Mr Mannn]

Cartoonist (6,908 posts)

I stand with Russia.


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Said no one ever. No one sides with tyrants against the little guy. This isn't even believable. DU, you guys are morons to think that anyone would ever side with Russia apart from a real commie and you can find those in YOUR ranks, not mine.

[jukin]

Four words from this DUchebag.

THIS. IS. A. LIE.

[Zathras]

Four words from this ANY DUchebag.

THIS. IS. A. LIE.

FIFY.

[SVPete]

Cartoonist (6,908 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216440340

Four words from my brother that breaks my heart.

I stand with Russia.

He changed his Facebook photo to the Russian flag, and his profile picture to the Russian coat of arms.

He used to be a liberal. He was a Bernie supporter who felt that Hillary cheated. He didn't vote for Trump, but he's gone full Q since.

If anything in this is factual, that last sentence is not, unless the brother lives in a Progressive conspiracy-theory-centered mental world (very mental). And, yeah, HilLIARY and the Dem Party ed The Bern. If the brother went full-CT, that very real conspiracy may have been what sent him there.