When someone says Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Biden became president...

[dutch508]

Ohioboy (2,256 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216399968

When someone says Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Biden became president...
Correct their narrative by saying "Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Trump lost reelection and incited January 6th".

The "big lie" has done more to weaken American democracy and the world view of America than anything else in recent history. Biden and the Democrats had nothing to do with that, except to beat Trump in the election. The "big lie" falls right into the playbook of Putin, and don't think he didn't notice.

Then, after you've explained that, tell them to shut up and start supporting America and her current president who is trying to fix what Trump screwed up.

Thank you.

 

Star Member AZSkiffyGeek (5,941 posts)

1. I think it was Germany's new chancellor that sparked it

He would’ve made his move sooner if it was because of Biden.

Star Member brush (39,875 posts)

3. Spot on. Putin miscalculated. He thought trump was going to win again and he could take...

Ukraine whenever he wanted once trump followed up on his promise to pull out of NATO. When trump lost and could no longer pull out of NATO, Putin probably realized he had blown his opportunity to take Ukraine during trump's time in the WH.

He probably started planning this invasion soon after trump lost. Massing troops and equipment from across Russia's 11 time zones took months of logistics prep.

It's also rumored that Putin is sick and doesnt have much time in his quest to re-form the Soviet Union or Russian Empire, whichever it is, so had to attempt to take Ukraine now. He will regret it as the invasion has strengthened NATO and the Ukrainians are offering more resistance than Putin thought they'd be able to.

It would be nice if the west pours in more arms, anti-tank and anti-aircraft, into the country as we can't dispatch troops as Ukraine has not yet been able to join NATO, which Putin is definitely afraid of.

 

[fatboy]

When someone asks: Whats that crashing sound... just tell them "that's Brandon's approval ratings being updated".

 

[Zathras]

There go the DUmbasses once again, sailing down that big river in Egypt that passes the Pyramids near Cairo.

[DLR Pyro]

Why did Putin have to wait for Trump's 2 term to take Ukraine?  If Trump really was a puppet of Putin,  it would have made sense to take Ukraine during his first term rather than take the chance the democrats would steal the 2020 election.

[ADsOutburst]

When someone says "Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Biden became president", it is followed either by silence, or by endless rationalizations for Biden's foreign policy failures. Remember weeks ago, when morons at DU were praising Biden for calling Putin's bluff? Turns out, it was no bluff.

Look DUmbshits, it is simple: Obama as president saw Putin take Crimea. Trump as president saw Putin take nothing. Biden as president is seeing Putin take Ukraine. Get it? Biden could have kept Putin in check if he was half the foreign policy guru you imagine him to be.

He probably started planning this invasion soon after trump lost. Massing troops and equipment from across Russia's 11 time zones took months of logistics prep.

Err, Russia already has large numbers of troops stationed its four military districts, for exactly the reason you mentioned. He probably didn't need to move much, if anything, across the whole of Russia.

Morons.

[Ralph Wiggum]

The "big lie" has done more to weaken American democracy and the world view of America than anything else in recent history.

Correction, DUmb-ass.  The big lie has nothing to do with January 6th, the actual BIG LIE was that President Trump colluded with Russia.  It defines the angry left and always will.

[USA4ME]

 

The Ohioboi primitive would be too scared to even attempt this face-to-face, which makes it especially funny.

I have noticed the primitives are starting to make the statement “You’re either with us or against us” which they skewered as being anti-American during the Iraq conflict. Since they’re using it, they once again are telling on themselves.

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[jukin]

When someone says Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Biden became president...

Shut up and leave because they are correct.... but you won't you will feel a great need to demonstrate your ignorance and spout of your stupidity.

[BannedFromDU]

I have noticed the primitives are starting to make the statement “You’re either with us or against us” which they skewered as being anti-American during the Iraq conflict. Since they’re using it, they once again are telling on themselves.

Every time I get fed up with the rank hypocrisy over there, I remind myself that the median age has got to be at least 55 if not older, and they have absolutely no power whatsoever. They're just old, sick, and mostly poor monkeys banging away at their Trump cymbals.
Then I become encouraged, knowing they're going to start dying off a lot faster over there.

[freedumb2003b]

Ohioboy (2,256 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216399968

When someone says Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Biden became president...
Correct their narrative by saying "Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Trump lost reelection and incited January 6th".

Counter the truth with a non-sequitur lie.   SOP for DUmmies.

[USA4ME]

Counter the truth with a non-sequitur lie.   SOP for DUmmies.

Yep. Might as well say “Putin didn’t invade Ukraine until after Valentines Day.” It means nothing. Biden is where the buck stops, so it’s all on him.

Even Lord Marblehead tried to deflect today. He’s so stupid he thinks it will work. Skinner found a sucker when he sold the site to EarlG.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216403734

 

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[CollectivismMustDie]

Dear DUmmies:

Nero (Locutusofborg) says:

'If it happened on a Presidents watch, that President OWNS IT'





 

[SVPete]

Hey Soihioboi! Here's a thread for you superior wisdom, https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216386642 .

[Ptarmigan]

Biden's Putin Appeasement Has Been Years in the Making
https://townhall.com/columnists/davidharsanyi/2022/02/25/bidens-putin-appeasement-has-been-years-in-the-making-n2603753

"One small thing to be thankful for is that DJT is not in the White House as the Ukraine crisis unfolds. He'd side with Russia," tweeted Francis Fukuyama, author of "The End of History and the Last Man." The headline on Eugene Robinson's Washington Post column reads, "With Biden standing firm, Putin must wonder: Where's Trump when I need him?" You could find similar sentiment from foreign-policy experts strewn across social media.

Surely, even former President Donald Trump's most passionate antagonists must be slightly curious as to why Russian President Vladimir Putin, the real villain of this tale, didn't move on eastern Ukraine after successfully installing the orange man as an alleged infiltrator in the White House. What better time could there have been for an invasion or annexation? Why now and not then?

Then again, the notion that President Joe Biden has shown firmness or deftness on foreign policy is at odds with not only recent events -- most notably the disastrous pullout from Afghanistan -- but also 50 years of his history. On the issue of Putin, Biden has been relentlessly wrong.

In 2009, Biden went to Munich and delivered the Obama administration's first major foreign-policy speech, arguing that it was "time to press the reset button" after eight years of purported American antagonism toward Russia. It was Biden who then spearheaded the effort to reward Moscow by giving Russia access to the World Trade Organization: He told nominal Russian president Dmitri Medvedev that Russia's access to the WTO was "the most important item on our agenda." At the time, a Reuters headline announced, "Biden backs Russia WTO bid, praises Medvedev."

Biden's Putin appeasement has been years in the making.

[dandi]

DUmmies having a "when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor" moment.

[Delmar]

Our enemies are going to keep on taking advantage of the frail, doddering old fool in the White House.  Biden still has nearly three years to go and the democrats think they can just explain away every single one of his myriad screwups with a barrage of protective lies.  It's going to be a long three years for all Americans but especially for democrats who have to keep lying for this failed old man who is clearly in way over his head.  Convince him to resign, it wouldn't be too hard--just put it on the teleprompter and he'd almost certainly go right ahead and blurt it all out, even if he did mangle it up some he'd still get the point across eventually--at this point the addled old fool probably doesn't even understand what he's saying, anyway.

The clock is ticking, do it before the worthless old sack of shit runs this country irretrievably into the ground.

[Drafe Hoblin]

Appears that Ohioboy will be DU's go-to guy when someone says Xi didn't invade Taiwan until Biden became President. 

[jukin]

Every time I get fed up with the rank hypocrisy over there, I remind myself that the median age has got to be at least 55 if not older, and they have absolutely no power whatsoever. They're just old, sick, and mostly poor monkeys banging away at their Trump cymbals.
Then I become encouraged, knowing they're going to start dying off a lot faster over there.

That is the mean IQ. The mean age is more like 73. The mean net worth is in the four digits.

[Mr Mannn]

When someone says Putin didn't invade Ukraine until Biden became president..

Just repeat the tired old talking point your NPC masters gave you. Then stomp your feet, and hold your breath until you are blue. That'll teach em!