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Offline dutch508

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It goes back to Reagan
« on: February 19, 2022, 05:51:12 PM »
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It goes back to Reagan

so many things we have to deal with goes back to Reagan ****ing things up.

Trickle Down Economics bullshit (or give the Rich all the money)
Let's destroy Unions and keep wages permanently low
Get rid of the Fairness Doctrine and bring on Faux News
Making Racism cool again
War on Environmentalism
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Feel free to add to the list of how this evil SOB started the decline of the U.S.A.

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MOMFUDSKI (606 posts)

2. My daughter, to this day,

talks about raygun classifying ketchup as a VEGETABLE for school lunches. My best friend from high school was a UNION flight controller earning great money with a promised comfy retirement. They went on strike and raygun blackballed the lot of them. That was the beginning of union busting and look around at all the strong unions we have in this country now. I remember my ex-husband who was a Teamster Union member coming home to tell me they were going out on strike but only certain trucking companies in town. The others would continue to work. I said WHAAA? What the hell kind of a strike is THAT? Well, there you go.

The ketchup as a vegetable controversy refers to proposed United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food and Nutrition Service (FNS) regulations, late in the Presidency of Jimmy Carter and early in the presidency of Ronald Reagan, that intended to provide more flexibility in meal planning to local school lunch administrators coping with National School Lunch Plan subsidy cuts enacted by the Omnibus Regulation Acts of 1980 and 1981.[1][2] The regulations allowed administrators the opportunity to credit items not explicitly listed that met nutritional requirements. While ketchup was not mentioned in the original regulations, pickle relish was used as an example of an item that could count as a vegetable.

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Despite the fact that ketchup was not explicitly referenced as a vegetable substitute in the regulations,[3] the condiment became an easy visual for skeptics to cite when criticizing the Reagan Administration and the proposed regulations.

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Star Member leftieNanner (11,852 posts)

3. Mental Health Systems

As Governor of California, he demolished the entire state public health system for mental healthcare. I think you can link a lot of homelessness to that.

When exactly did Reagan “close all the mental health facilities?”

Turns out, this is a huge myth that liberals have been high-fiving themselves over for decades.

In 1967, the California legislature passed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (LPS), which allowed local, private (i.e., non-state) mental facilities to accept more patients—particularly those with more treatable or milder forms of mental illness.

Governor Reagan signed the bill into law; in his view, this was a win-win: mental health patients would receive treatments, and in turn the funding to state mental facilities could be reduced. Of course, the state facilities cried foul at the cut in funding, even though in theory they were not being under-funded. Of course, with a lower case load, treatments improved; however, some facilities reduced headcount.

Despite the bipartisan plan, unforeseen consequences developed. Without a requirement that all mental health patients go to public facilities, many borderline individuals simply refused private treatment as was their right. The upshot was that many individuals who could have benefited from treatment simply did not get any at all; they wound up as functioning members of the public. And sometimes, problems occurred.

Later, the Carter administration signed into law the Mental Health Systems Act of 1980, which largely promoted the same idea for national facilities. In 1981, when both parties in Congress agreed to the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981, President Reagan signed that into law. One of it many provisions was to eliminate federal funding for community services and thereby transfer funding back to individual funding or state-funded efforts. Had Reagan even been aware of that part of the Act, he would have immediately realized the Act was negating the disastrous effects of the LPS he experienced as governor of California.

In other words, the State needs more funding control over mental health facilities, whether local, community, or state. Serious cases could still be funded through Medicaid, creating a virtual federal funding pool of money. This was formalized in the Mental Health Planning Act of 1986.

In effect, bipartisan policies recommended that the Federal government transfer government funding of community mental health facilities back to the states. State-funded facilities as well as privately-funded facilities were not affected by that policy. Reagan signed the bill into law as part of an overall spending cut package. As he would have known, complete state funding of facilities resulted in terrible mental healthcare, but state governments had an obligation to provide for this. However, in 1986, he also signed into a law another bipartisan solution to have Medicaid assist with funding. The laws closed not a single facility.

Ergo, to the liberals, REAGAN CLOSED THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES. The fact that states closed some facilities and let staff go at others due to their own budget issues is unimportant because, of course, liberals hated Reagan. And still do.


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4. HRC's declaring of a "vast right-wing conspiracy" seemed to have brought it all back to the surface again. They did not want their ugly agenda dragged into the light of day. From Smedley Butler to the Powell Memo to the latest CRT histrionics --they'd like us all to just not see. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

They thought Trump would be their latest "auto-pen" President, like Reagan and the Bushes. Taxes are for saps! Rules and regulations are for the rubes!

The "drown big government in a bathtub" crowd has been revealed for what they actually are.

fascist Nazis

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Star Member spanone (129,623 posts)

6. Republicans screwed their constituents and they blamed it all on the Democrats....

Re****licans

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Star Member turbinetree (22,070 posts)

11. And Ronny also went after the two year free college in California that Pat Brown had put in place

The California Master Plan for Higher Education of 1960......

And he went after the air traffic controllers in the 1980's .....

And he started his presidential campaign in Philadelphia Mississippi just to say more racists memes .....

he really was a asshole.....

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Star Member jalan48 (12,611 posts)

13. I agree. Hard to believe we got a right wing President only a few years after the public disgrace

of Nixon's corruption and removal from office.. Reagan was good at reading cue cards and delivering a line. The real dirty work was done behind the scenes by Bush Sr. and his crew of neo-cons.

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14. Illegal deal with Iran on the hostages

helped.

But 2 years after Bush and the GOP almost brought down the global Economy, voters put the Repukes back in charge of Congress.

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Re: It goes back to Reagan
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2022, 09:24:14 PM »
The DUmmies should be glad the mental health facilities were closed. If they were still open, they would all be permanent inpatients.

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Re: It goes back to Reagan
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2022, 09:47:58 PM »
But just yesterday you primitives were telling us it all goes back to the racist, misogynistic, homophobic Founding Fathers. I do wish you would decide.

But, of course, it was just yesterday that Dems were telling us democracies were evil and that the USSR was the model economy of the future. They still believe those things, but it’s not to their advantage to admit it at the moment.

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Re: It goes back to Reagan
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2022, 09:48:51 PM »
The DUmmies should be glad the mental health facilities were closed. If they were still open, they would all be permanent inpatients.

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You say that as if Skinner's Island of Misfit **** Ups wasn't an assylum established by the Dim'Rats to keep the incurable lunatics in their midst contained and off the streets.

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Re: It goes back to Reagan
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2022, 07:42:37 AM »



Or in DU's case, the usual bogeymen.
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Re: It goes back to Reagan
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2022, 10:12:08 AM »
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2. My daughter, to this day,

talks about raygun classifying ketchup as a VEGETABLE

And forty years from now leftists will still be saying that President Trump said that nazis were very fine people.
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Re: It goes back to Reagan
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2022, 10:48:25 AM »
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