Judge says former President Donald Trump and two of his children must testify

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Star Member CaptainTruth (4,269 posts)


BREAKING: Judge says former President Donald Trump and two of his children must testify
Just reported by Associated Press

BREAKING: Judge says former President Donald Trump and two of his children must testify in the New York attorney general's investigation of his business practices.

Link added:

Trump must testify in New York investigation, judge rules

 

Star Member Nevilledog (32,996 posts)

3. Must sit for depositions. Not testify.

Star Member CaptainTruth (4,269 posts)

36. I thought "A deposition is a witness's sworn out-of-court testimony" per Cornell Law

I don't have a law degree, I'm just trying to understand all this stuff. I understand it's different than in-court testimony & different rules of evidence apply, but thought a sworn deposition was still a form of testimony. I rely on Cornell a lot for things like this as they seem to be accurate but if I'm mistaken please let me know, I'm just trying to learn, thanks!!!

Cornell Law:

A deposition is a witness's sworn out-of-court testimony. It is used to gather information as part of the discovery process and, in limited circumstances, may be used at trial. The witness being deposed is called the "deponent."

Star Member Nevilledog (32,996 posts)

46. I *do* have a law degree, so.....

A deposition is under oath, but the person being deposed has their attorney next to them who they can consult with before answering. That attorney can also lodge objections, and if necessary, can ask a judge to rule whether the question is allowed. A deposition is also more wide-ranging and lots of questions are asked that wouldn't be allowed in a trial setting.

That's obviously different than testifying in court.

Star Member Nevilledog (32,996 posts)

57. They will be appealing it.

First, they'll try State appeals, and then try moving it to Federal court. They won't be deposed anytime soon.

But I'd love to be wrong.

sakabatou (38,671 posts)

4. I wonder what will happen if they refuse.

Hopefully an arrest.

 

superpatriotman (5,772 posts)

9. Not going to happen

I will not hold my breath.

Star Member Emile (2,083 posts)

56. I just want to see that lying POS under oath!

lagomorph777 (28,338 posts)

12. Ruh-roh.

Looking forward to him pleading the 5th (and seeing his comments about only gangsters pleading the 5th).

I think SCROTUS, despite their current depravity, has generally agreed that he has to cough up subpoenaed information. So I would guess they'll go along with the lower court when he goes whining to SCROTUS.

Mike Nelson (8,612 posts)

15. Hmm...

... my Prediction: They will refuse, negotiate, refuse, agree, back-out, negotiate, agree, get sick, negotiate, agree to lawyer questionnaires, lie, Lie, and LIE.

Star Member SoonerPride (10,673 posts)

21. They have 21 days to file an appeal.

It'll be at least 2 more years before he is deposed on this.

If ever.

Book mark this to prove me wrong should it happen sooner.

Star Member barbtries (25,606 posts)

29. can they be arrested

when they don't show up? please say yes.

will they be? i sure hope so.

Star Member Botany (62,694 posts)

30. Doesn't A.G. James has it set up if TFG doesn't show up she can put a lien on all his NY properties?

Star Member lindysalsagal (16,348 posts)

48. "must answer questions under oath"

Former President Donald Trump must answer questions under oath in New York state’s civil investigation into his business practices, a judge ruled Thursday.

Judge Arthur Engoron ordered Trump and his two eldest children, Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr., to comply with subpoenas issued in December by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

Trump and his two children must sit for a deposition within 21 days, Engoron said.

"Under oath" is the game changer. You can lie to just about anyone any time, except a judge under oath. It's his lying about everything that ultimately will undo his house of cards.

Star Member lpbk2713 (40,536 posts)

69. Trump is a criminal and a traitor.

Being a former president affords him no protection.

 

[DefiantSix]

Wait until they discover that Trump has a fifth amendment right (just the same as everyone else) and doesn't have to provide answers to any questions from any agent of government...

 

[freedumb2003b]

Star Member Nevilledog (32,996 posts)

57. They will be appealing it.

First, they'll try State appeals, and then try moving it to Federal court. They won't be deposed anytime soon.

But I'd love to be wrong.

Amazingly accurate for a DUmmie.  However you left out Executive Privilege.  When obozo extended that penumbra over holder that pretty much made it everlasting elastic.  Once again the democrats arrogate something to themselves only to have it used against them.

[Drafe Hoblin]

Never going to happen. 

Trump & Co. can lead James' office around by a nose-ring for years.  Request Mar-A-Lago.  Negate it.  Request NYC.  Negate it.  Request it be taken by telephone.  Negate that....  et cetera

Close 'Discovery'.  Then open it back up.  Make various claims about the evidence obtained, to date.  Revisit the same arguments over and over.  Ironically, the GOP has been pursuing tort reform for decades, which would shut-down a lot of these shenanigans, but Dems keep being successful in fighting it.

[SVPete]

[Wineslob]

Must have stayed at a Holiday Inn.

[Rebel]

Civil trial he'll win hands down. Your crusty, wrinkled old bitch princess is about to go through a real trial. A criminal trial. You're getting your asses handed to you in the midterms. How many democrats are stepping away so far? 30?

[freedumb2003b]

Never going to happen. 

Trump & Co. can lead James' office around by a nose-ring for years.  Request Mar-A-Lago.  Negate it.  Request NYC.  Negate it.  Request it be taken by telephone.  Negate that....  et cetera

Close 'Discovery'.  Then open it back up.  Make various claims about the evidence obtained, to date.  Revisit the same arguments over and over.  Ironically, the GOP has been pursuing tort reform for decades, which would shut-down a lot of these shenanigans, but Dems keep being successful in fighting it.

And the hammer of exec priv is always there. After obozo misused it so badly the precedent was set.