Imallin4Joe (557 posts)
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Russia attacking Ukraine would be a war crime.
The human death toll will be catastrophic.
Any "leader" that gives such an order, to declare war on a democracy, a democratic nation. An order that will kill 100,000+ people.
is a "leader" that deserves to be..
EXECUTED for his war crimes.
Star Member bullwinkle428 (20,179 posts)
2. I'm not pro-death penalty at all, but I will agree that what the U.S.
did to Iraq also constituted a war crime. We'll never know how many civilians died as the result of "shock and awe".
Dial H For Hero (2,326 posts)
3. In and of itself, it would not be.
There are a number of different atrocious acts which can be classified as war crimes, but simply attacking another nation is not one of them.
Imallin4Joe (557 posts)
7. Depends if any UN sanctions have been imposed.
Attacking a democracy through war is not taken lightly by the international community.
When I referred to war crimes in my OP, much of that is from what would likely be a horrific human death toll and the atrocities committed by Russia to overthrow Ukraine.
If sanctions have been imposed by the UN forbidding Russia from attacking, then it would be a war crime for Russia to attack.
nope, still not a war crime.
Star Member former9thward (25,373 posts)
29. What UN sanctions?
The UN can't impose sanctions because Russia is a member of the Security Council and has a veto on any actions.
Star Member Dave says (4,037 posts)
19. Launching wars of aggression are war crimes
“What about the war crime known as a ‘war of aggression’? That’s a type of war where one nation initiates an unprovoked attack on another nation.
A war of aggression was declared a war crime at Nuremberg.”
Star Member malaise (242,415 posts)
4. So was the US attacking Iraq
That is all
Star Member malaise (242,415 posts)
9. and nearly a million Iraqis are dead
and we still await consequences and we're sick of being pawns of imperialist powers.
That is all
Star Member Happy Hoosier (3,598 posts)
12. Whataboutism.
Not many here supported that war, so this comment isn't particularly helpful. Whether or not attacking Iraq was a war crime is independent of whether or not Attacking Ukraine would be. Unless you are just trying to justify turning a blind eye to Russian aggression.
Star Member malaise (242,415 posts)
15. M$Greedia cheered Bush on and there are warmongers in
both parties.
Those dead Iraqis have no sides
Fact is the Iraq invasion and occupation was illegal.
Star Member Happy Hoosier (3,598 posts)
16. Again, what does that have to do with Russia and Ukraine?
I don't disagree with you on that subject. But it has **** all to do with Russia and Ukraine. Surely you see that?
Voltaire2 (9,966 posts)
26. It paved the way.
Bush’s war destroyed the international legal constraints on ‘wars of aggression’ and also effectively abolished the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of prisoners and protection of civilians.
We are reaping the results of our unilateralism.
Star Member Maraya1969 (19,012 posts)
5. I wish someone would drop a predatory drone bomb directly on Putin's head.
Sorry. I said it.
Star Member Chainfire (7,331 posts)
13. The Americans, along with the Russians, Brits and French
Hung a pile of Nazi bigwigs for "waging a war of aggression."
Of course, only the winners get to decide whether the war was justified or aggressive. So, yes, if we win a war that Russia starts in Ukraine, to expand their borders, and we apprehend Putin, in theory we could try him for a capital crime.
No, the vast majority of those Germans who were executed were for atrocities committed, not warfighting. In fact, several big wig NAZIs were only sentenced to minimal prison terms or served no time at all. In the Soviet Union, however, the German prisoners suffered much much more. Friedrich Wilhelm Ernst Paulus, was a Soviet prisoner for basically the rest of his life. At first Paulus refused to collaborate with the Soviets. However, after the attempted assassination of Hitler on 20 July 1944, he became a vocal critic of the Nazi regime while in Soviet captivity, joining the Soviet-sponsored National Committee for a Free Germany appealing to Germans to surrender. He later acted as a witness for the prosecution at the Nuremberg Trials. He was allowed to move to the German Democratic Republic in 1953, two years before the repatriation of the remaining German POWs.
marie999 (2,776 posts)
24. Russia will probably not invade Ukraine. There's no benefit to him if they do.
He knows NATO is not going to let Ukraine join. Meanwhile, gas prices have gone up. If he was going to invade, he would have brought up his tactical nuclear weapons by now and taken them out of storage in Kaliningrad.
Voltaire2 (9,966 posts)
25. So was our invasion of Iraq.
And yet there have been zero consequences for anyone in charge of that atrocity.
