On January 6 of 2021, both of my parents died.

[dutch508]

Star Member MineralMan (141,114 posts)
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On January 6 of 2021, both of my parents died.

So many stories about people dying from COVID-19. Some resisted the vaccine. Some were also high-school sweethearts long ago.

My parents did not have a chance to get vaccinated. No vaccine was available to them. My father died in the hospital of COVID-19 pneumonia, an hour after my mother, and his wife of 75 years, died at home, probably of COVID-19, although that was not on her death certificate. She was never diagnosed, and passed in her sleep, under the care of 24/7 home care aides and hospice workers. Both were 96 years old.

They, too, were high school sweethearts, married in 1944, shortly before my father shipped out to pilot B-17s out of Italy. I was born in 1945, just before he came home safely after the war.

The local newspaper wanted to do a story about them. I asked that they not do that. Neither of my parents ever sought to be in the spotlight about anything. I wanted to respect their wishes, despite the nature of their deaths. Instead, I wrote a long joint obituary for them that ended up running on the paper's front page. I knew their story and I am a journalist. I did not want someone who did not know them romanticizing their deaths. So, that was how I began my year in 2021, writing my parents' obituary.

There are many similar stories. All of them are sad stories. We should not malign those who have died. It is a shame to malign them now, after their deaths. Yes, they were stupid. Yes, they should have been vaccinated. They are still dead, and are mourned by their families. We can think whatever we wish, but their deaths are not a reason to attack them now, after they're dead. That is not at all helpful to anyone or to any cause.

 

[CollectivismMustDie]

And they were singing...bye bye miss American pie...

  

[SVPete]

As I posted in the Shoutbox earlier today, by January 6, 2021, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines had been authorized for use by the FDA - Pfizer's on December 11, 2020, and Moderna's on December 18, 2020. If, as MM claims, Covid vaccines were unavailable when his parents died, it was either because the State of California F'ed up distribution, or the State of California did not at the time allow septuagenarians to be vaccinated (I know from experience that sexagenarians were excluded). Or both. Either way, blame Goobernor Noisome.

[3rd-try]

I recall when the lord obama suggested that a sick person 96 years old should be given pain medication and allowed to die peacefully.

[SVPete]

... my mother, and his wife of 75 years, died at home, probably of COVID-19, although that was not on her death certificate.

In early January 2020, tests for Covid did not exist, except for in China (who has still withholding the virus' DNA sequence from the world), so she would not have been tested. In 2021, she would almost certainly have been tested. If her death cert said nothing about Covid it almost certainly was because she had tested negative.

Both of MM's parents were advanced in age. The Father was in the hospital with Covid, and the mother was not allowed to visit him because that was still hospitals' policy in early 2021. BTDTGTTS - my family couldn't visit me in January 2021, either. The loneliness and worry was probably too much for whatever else she had going on healthwise.

As for their not being vaccinated, blame the "public health" people who persuaded Pfizer not to request EUA until well after the election and Goobernor Noisome, who F'ed up vaccine distribution and restricted vaccine availability very narrowly in December 2020-March 2021.

Had Pfizer's vaccine been authorized 3-4 weeks earlier and Goobernor Noisome not F'ed up vaccine distribution and restricted vaccine availability so narrowly, maybe MM's parents would have gotten vaccinated and maybe their immune systems were still robust enough for it to be effective. Or maybe, like I'm sure many DU members did, they would have bought into LIEden's & Kammie's claim the Bogey-Trump Vaccines could not be trusted to be safe and effective. For my part, had I been able to receive the Pfizer vaccine in early December, I would have, and though half-vaxxed, I might not have gotten Covid, and if I did, probably would not have had to be hospitalized.

Alternate history is uncertain at best, and sometimes is mental . I do not know what MM's parents would have done had Pfizer's vaccine been available to them in early December, nor how well their immune systems would have responded. I do know that I would have gladly received the vaccine, were it available, in early December. I had been following Covid vaccine news since February 2020, i.e. an informed decision in which politics had no role. I also know, because of a recent antibody test, that my immune system would have responded appropriately. Thus, I think it very likely that those "public health" people's and Goobernor Noisome's political         bear much blame for my having to be hospitalized, if not for my getting Covid at all.

[jukin]

I would feel some empathy for this DUmbass if any of this fable were true. It is not and I do not.

[Drafe Hoblin]

I recall when the lord obama suggested that a sick person 96 years old should be given pain medication and allowed to die peacefully.

I also remember the train-of-thought that suggested Republicans should be denied pain-medication once our medical-records were in the hands of democratic whackos like Zeke Emanuel, etc.