The problem with our democracy is within the media and the "free press"?

[Mary Ann]

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kentuck (103,837 posts)


The problem with our democracy is within the media and the "free press"?


It is not that the citizens do not get the information they need. In many instances, they get too much information. It only muddles the situation.

But with a large proportion of our citizens, they get too little information. Or they do not get the information they need.

The present crisis in our democracy is within the media. Most specifically, it is with FOX News and its progeny. Some may logically argue that it all began with right-wing radio.

It is not that FOX News does not have the information to give the people of this country, so they can make the best decisions for themselves, their families, their communities, and their country. They choose not to report it.

What began as a simple exercise in giving people an opposing viewpoint has grown into a monster that can no longer be controlled. No matter what the "liberal media" reported, FOX chose to give the opposing viewpoint. For example, if the "liberal media" reported that scientists and doctors from around the world were saying that our country and the world were under threat of a deadly pandemic, then they felt they had to report that it was a conspiracy. It was exaggerated by the left for political reasons, they told their viewers.

The present problem with our democracy can be traced to the feet of Rupert Murdoch and FOX News.

Although the "liberal media" may sometimes be wrong, they are not always wrong. To report otherwise is a recipe for disaster, as we are now witnessing.

This is why we have so many people still believing in the Big Lie, because they hear it on the only media that they watch. There is a reason so many people distrust the Covid vaccine. There is a reason so many people believe the election was "rigged". All those lies were propagated by FOX News.

Although we can look far and wide for the causes of our present constitutional crisis, we need look no farther than FOX and their philosophy about "fair and balanced" media.

Don't know how many times I have heard Fox News people say "Biden won," or that they have personally been vaxxed, although they are against mandates. Doesn't sound like they are saying Covid is a conspiracy.

OTOH, how much coverage has the MSM given the border, which truly is a crisis? How much coverage has the MSM given to dozens of other topics that would reflect poorly on Joementia? Kentuck and the rest of the DUpipo want only one point of view reported. So much for Freedom of the Press.

[DLR Pyro]

But with a large proportion of our citizens, they get too little information. Or they do not get the information they need.

Please define the "information they need"

I suspect is will fall into the category of democrat talking points

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

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Don't know how many times I have heard Fox News people say "Biden won," or that they have personally been vaxxed, although they are against mandates. Doesn't sound like they are saying Covid is a conspiracy.

Agreed.
My parents both avidly watch FoxNews, and:
A. They have no problem conceding that Biden won and that Trump and others who continue to say otherwise need to move on.
B) they each got their Covid booster at least a month ago.

[SVPete]

What part of the government being forbidden to abridge the freedom of the press does it not get?

[Texacon]

For people who claim to never watch FOX news they sure seem to know a lot about it.

KC

[Ralph Wiggum]

For people who claim to never watch FOX news they sure seem to know a lot about it.

KC

That's something I don't completely grasp either.  But here's my hunch:

DUmmies don't actually watch Fox News, nor do they even know the station number or whose show is on at what time.  Apparently, CNN/MSNBC/Lefty Blogs obsess over the content on FNC.  And normally, they use tiny snippets taken completely out of context as an illustration of their narrative.

Hell, maybe they do watch it being the masochist party and all.

[SVPete]

That's something I don't completely grasp either.  But here's my hunch:

DUmmies don't actually watch Fox News, nor do they even know the station number or whose show is on at what time.  Apparently, CNN/MSNBC/Lefty Blogs obsess over the content on FNC.  And normally, they use tiny snippets taken completely out of context as an illustration of their narrative.

Hell, maybe they do watch it being the masochist party and all.

Pretty sure DUpipo are acolytes at the altars of MesSNBC and MMfA.

[Texacon]

That's something I don't completely grasp either.  But here's my hunch:

DUmmies don't actually watch Fox News, nor do they even know the station number or whose show is on at what time.  Apparently, CNN/MSNBC/Lefty Blogs obsess over the content on FNC.  And normally, they use tiny snippets taken completely out of context as an illustration of their narrative.

Hell, maybe they do watch it being the masochist party and all.

You’re probably correct in that they see snippets on their favorite leftist show and that’s where it comes from.

I do see the occasional post where they were ‘channel surfing’ and stopped on FOX for just a few minutes, and those seem suspect to me.

KC

[Ralph Wiggum]

You’re probably correct in that they see snippets on their favorite leftist show and that’s where it comes from.

I do see the occasional post where they were ‘channel surfing’ and stopped on FOX for just a few minutes, and those seem suspect to me.

KC

My reasoning for posting that is that I only hear snippets of clowns such as the Joyless twins (Behar and Reid), Don Lemon, Fredo Cuomo, Rachel Maddow, Brian Stelter, et al, on conservative radio or occasionally on Tucker or Gutfeld.  Goodness knows I can't stomach actually watching these shows, especially since President Trump successfully ran for President.  Then they all went coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs.

Additionally, that notorious left-wing outfit "Media Matters" apparently records and transcribes every conservative TV/radio show.  Then they selectively edit them, and distribute to their leftist kin.  So it all gets repeated ad nauseum to the fascist left, even if things aren't true.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

This bullshit moment brought to you by the Steele dossier.

[Muddling 2]

This bullshit moment brought to you by the Steele dossier.

Let's not forget "Hands up, Don't Shoot"; the picture of St. Trayvon the Lesser when he was 12 years old, and "Kyle Rittenhouse crossed state lines with his AR-15".

[SVPete]

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Additionally, that notorious left-wing outfit "Media Matters" apparently records and transcribes every conservative TV/radio show.  Then they selectively edit them, and distribute to their leftist kin.  So it all gets repeated ad nauseum to the fascist left, even if things aren't true.

That is MMfA's MO. Anytime one sees MMfA as a source it is pretty much guaranteed that the quote/clip is out of context and the context contradicts MMfA's claim. Even DUpipo should be wary of MMfA, but I doubt they are.

[Ralph Wiggum]

That is MMfA's MO. Anytime one sees MMfA as a source it is pretty much guaranteed that the quote/clip is out of context and the context contradicts MMfA's claim. Even DUpipo should be wary of MMfA, but I doubt they are.

MMfA is a really dubious organization, which has an odd history.  Via Wikipedia (occasionally a dubious source, but this time it seems correct.)

is an American liberal political consultant, author, and commentator who founded the media watchdog group Media Matters for America.  He has been described by Time as "one of the most influential operatives in the Democratic Party".

Brock began his career as a right-wing investigative reporter during the 1990s.  He wrote the book The Real Anita Hill and the Troopergate story, which led to Paula Jones filing a lawsuit against Bill Clinton. In the late-1990s, he switched sides, aligning himself with the Democratic Party and in particular with Bill and Hillary Clinton.

In 2004, he founded Media Matters for America, a non-profit organization which describes itself as a "progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media".  He has since also founded super PACs called American Bridge 21st Century and Correct the Record, has become a board member of the super PAC Priorities USA Action and has been elected chairman of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock

[DUmpDiver]

For people who claim to never watch FOX news they sure seem to know a lot about it.

KC

Fox News has about 2.5 million primetime viewers. The US population is about 330 million.\


It's fun to watch the DUmmies and other lefties get their panties in a bunch over a newscast that reaches less than one percent of the population.

[Texacon]

Fox News has about 2.5 million primetime viewers. The US population is about 330 million.\


It's fun to watch the DUmmies and other lefties get their panties in a bunch over a newscast that reaches less than one percent of the population.

They let so many things live rent free in their heads.

It’s what makes them so hateful.

KC

[DLR Pyro]

They let so many things live rent free in their heads.

It’s what makes them so hateful, but very amusing

KC

[Texacon]

You got that right!

KC