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Star Member Faux pas (11,887 posts) 1. Maybe they don't trustthe Chicago police?
Star Member irisblue (27,040 posts) 2. CPD doesn't treat POC too well. I can understand his hesitancy
Star Member redstatebluegirl (11,685 posts) 5. He is black and gay plus it is the CPD.
EffieBlack (14,249 posts) 25. If I were a celebrity in this situation, I might not want the body cams on either The last thing I'd want is for video footage of me at my worst and most vulnerable moments to "accidentally" turn up on TMZ.I don't know if that's the explanation, just pointing out that this is not necessarily a suspicious thing.
DorothyG (95 posts) 8. I certainly understand his fear.Though I, and presumably everyone else, wants to see the perps not merely caught but prosecuted. Timely collection of data will be important to his case should these scumbags see the inside of a courtroom.
displacedtexan (15,649 posts) 9. There's no telling what else may be in his phone.If he has a contact labeled Drug Dealer or Hooker, he may not want the CPD to have that info. And it has nothing to do with his attack. Of course, the CPD could use that info to discredit his claims, charge with with bogus drug or hooker crimes, or even harass every one on his contact list. Plus, they could always sell the info to TMZ.
EffieBlack (14,249 posts) 29. Turning over his phone does not do one thing to help the police track down the perpetrators The only reason to ask is if the police feel they need to "confirm" that Smollett's manager was actually on the phone at the time, which has nothing to do with solving a crime.I'm wondering why the police released that piece of information in the first place. Why are they publicly discussing what Smollett is and isn't agreeing to do in connection with the investigation?I have no idea whether Smollett is telling the truth. But not turning over his phone doesn't make me suspicious
Star Member ecstatic (29,294 posts) 33. I hope you're not serious. He's not a criminal or suspectWhy the f*ck should he turn in his phone--basically his entire identity--to the cops? As stated earlier, the cops can get phone records through normal channels.And leaking this info is not a good look.
Tickle (15 posts)Guilty jussie smollett on 5 counts. I didn’t expect this
Star Member BlackSkimmer (43,208 posts) 5. I still remember being attacked here for saying he was a liar back when this happened.So many were onto him from the beginning, not just me.
Star Member Chin music (14,097 posts) 3. You are THE only one I know of that didn't expect it.New here?
Star Member marble falls (45,477 posts) 8. And all this proves what? Is Chicago safer? Other than jail, is there any way to punish ...... this guy further? It may be legal, but it doesn't seem just. The punishment is beyond the value of the crime. He's lost everything.
BradAllison (1,060 posts) 18. It's a big deal for many FOX Snooze viewersAnd certain others who seem to really revel in it and take it as a "victory" for whatever reason.He was guilty, he's an asshole, going to jail, good. It is not worthy of national news or something "political".
Progressive Jones (5,361 posts) 24. My trumpflake "adult" son has been calling me a "Jussie Smollett supporter" throughout this trial.He never even heard of Smollett until a couple of months ago. RWNJ propaganda outlets and his podcast overlords tell him what to think and say. Even after telling the kid that I thought he was guilty, and an asshole, and a liar, I was informed that "all of you libtards support n-word criminals". I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, but I generally laugh whenever he speaks these days.RW Millennials are a special breed of crazy.
BradAllison (1,060 posts)18. It's a big deal for many FOX Snooze viewersAnd certain others who seem to really revel in it and take it as a "victory" for whatever reason.
Star Member irisblue (27,040 posts)2. CPD doesn't treat POC too well. I can understand his hesitancy
Progressive Jones (5,361 posts)24. My trumpflake "adult" son has been calling me a "Jussie Smollett supporter" throughout this trial.He never even heard of Smollett until a couple of months ago. RWNJ propaganda outlets and his podcast overlords tell him what to think and say. Even after telling the kid that I thought he was guilty, and an asshole, and a liar, I was informed that "all of you libtards support n-word criminals". I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, but I generally laugh whenever he speaks these days.RW Millennials are a special breed of crazy.
It's a victory because Smollett tried to stir up inter-racial violence for fun and profit....
Webb plans to bring up Smollett’s lying with the judge at the sentencing phase as an aggravating factor. But Smollett’s offense was already aggravated in my opinion. If hate crimes are specially egregious, then so is lying about them.Ordinarily, one lies to the police to protect oneself or to protect a person one cares about. Smollett lied to the police to promote his “brand.”In doing so, he added to racial tension and resentment in America. There’s more than enough of that resentment without Hollywood actors gratuitously generating more by telling tales of racism.
Those did not age well at all!
QuoteOrdinarily, one lies to the police to protect oneself or to protect a person one cares about. Smollett lied to the police to promote his “brand.”
Ordinarily, one lies to the police to protect oneself or to protect a person one cares about. Smollett lied to the police to promote his “brand.”
Think this is a quote from Ben Shapiro, but can't find it precisely nor a source:The liberal demand for hate crimes FAR exceeds the supply.
Folks have been saying that and similar things for years, myself among them. It's basic supply and demand that when demand exceeds supply new sources become available (e.g. when the Hunt brothers tried to corner the market on silver and once economically marginal sources resumed production).
In Chicago, the CPD treats the POC a lot better than the POC treats the other POC.
